NietzscheKeen
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OK, this seems like an amusing conversation. I'm going to have to catch up on all the posts. Hope you don't mind an observer.
OK, this seems like an amusing conversation. I'm going to have to catch up on all the posts. Hope you don't mind an observer.
I am not saying you are certainly wrong about astral projection, i am trying to help you understand that your eagerness to be certain that it is real only depicts your desperation that it be certainly true. I don't remember calling anyone a coward. I merely stated that i think some people live their lives more courageously than others. I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I love thinking, i love writing and i love sharing my opinion. I tried to explain to you that i don't see myself any higher or lower than anyone else, more courageous in thought maybe, but no more special or unique... and i am not insinuating anyone else is a coward, like i've explained before... we all give meaning and purpose to our lives the best way we can whether it be unseen forces, or our children, family and friends. We all want to be happy, and we all do our best to live life in a way where we experience the least amount of fear, suffering and pain. We all do our best to understand what is going on right now, there is no "right or wrong" path. All i ask for people to do, for those who would be a real seeker of truth, to at least once in their life they doubt, as far as possible, all things.
How can we trust our minds if we can't even figure out whether or not this reality is a dream or not? When anyone becomes solidly certain of anything supernatural or metaphysical, it only depicts their desperation that it be true. If it was true, and it is a part of whatever this reality is... then it should be easy to show me. I'm not saying you are wrong, but that your certainty that it is true gives you away.
It should be easy, if millions are astral projecting, for at least one master to come visit me sometime and tell me what i say at a certain time of the day right?
Here, now you'll have my grumpy old face to put behind all of my thread replies.
For us gnostic-theists to try to admit that there might not be anything metaphysical is like you trying to admit that you might be wrong about it being impossible to know anything metaphysical.
The thing is bro, i have enough courage to know and accept that i might be wrong. Where as you refuse to accept the possibility that your thoughts or ideas may be wrong. If someone were to show me a miracle, if god were to grant me the power of flight, if i saw time reverse itself and watch a dead animal come back to life. If someone were to astral project on me and tell me exactly what i was doing a certain time of the day. If i were to see a ghost and speak with one. I could keep this list going and going.
These are all possibilities. But none of them have happened to me, so i remain unconvinced and i suspend my judgement until something happens to sway me in one way or another.
I need more than an experience within a dream. I need more than the hearsay from someone else's experience. I need more than a coincidental occurrence. I need more because i accept the fallibility of my mind, and it's tendency to fool itself when my emotions take control whether it be fear, hope or love.
You shouldn't have to stand up for your beliefs, you should believe something because it's true... not because you want it to be, or think it is or feel it is.
Also, i didn't call anyone a coward, you insinuated that yourself. As time passes, i refine the way i speak to people, as i grow older i become more passionate and empathetic... it may have been something i have said in the past, but not in this thread.
< “There is something feeble and a little contemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths. Almost inevitably some part of him is aware that they are myths and that he believes them only because they are comforting. But he dare not face this thought! Moreover, since he is aware, however dimly, that his opinions are not rational, he becomes furious when they are disputed.”
Ah... intellectual integrity. It brightens this very dreary day.
Also, LMFAO at your recent comment Dr. Kynes.
dont even start frontin son.
you just love Eye Of The Tiger.
you're fooling no-one.
we all love this song. it's what happens when your testicles descend.
dont even start frontin son.
you just love Eye Of The Tiger.
you're fooling no-one.
we all love this song. it's what happens when your testicles descend.
That's why I like you guys. You know how to make me laugh AND feel a little violated... all at the same time!
(p.s. you've only been on here a year and you already have over 5,000 posts?! You must have a lot to say, lol.
Regardless, posting that much in a year deserves a. That's like 15 posts a day!!!)
OK OK. I have to admit. I had a magic prayer hankie once, lol. Benny Hinn was supposed to have prayed over it. I used to be so gullible.
Luckily I searched for the truth and found it. It's sometimes scary, but if you are dedicated to it... you'll eventually be ok with it.
Zaehet knows I like to use metaphors sometimes... here is my metaphor for people that insincerely "seek the truth" and wind up accidently finding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrw3NnoSuM
lol, or maybe it's like the people that only see a little bit or understand a little bit of evolution etc and try to get it to go away. Idk
when you dip all the way down to "contemptible" thats pretty harsh, and "cannnot face the perils of life" would give the strong impression of calling somebody a coward.
OK OK. I have to admit. I had a magic prayer hankie once, lol. Benny Hinn was supposed to have prayed over it. I used to be so gullible.
Luckily I searched for the truth and found it. It's sometimes scary, but if you are dedicated to it... you'll eventually be ok with it.
Zaehet knows I like to use metaphors sometimes... here is my metaphor for people that insincerely "seek the truth" and wind up accidently finding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFrw3NnoSuM
lol, or maybe it's like the people that only see a little bit or understand a little bit of evolution etc and try to get it to go away. Idk
As i had quotations around the quote, it was old Russell's words, not mine. I just thought it held relevance to the conversation at hand.
I do apologize if it sounded like i was calling someone a coward for believing in supernatural and metaphysical ideas.
You know, people believed lightening was supernatural and metaphysical for a long time. Most things do take the realm of supernaturalism until they become natural (meaning we understand it).
I mean, take Nikola Telsa away, half of the world probably don't have power or lights. Excuse me, I said prolly. I mean we DONT have either.