Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

canndo · Jul 16, 2022

7L!fTeD24 said:
I'm just gonna buy a pc. Been having to spend money on some other things. I just spent almost 800 on lights for this grow also I have 5 plants in flower that I'm heavily feeding and I'm using nectar for the gods whole line along with all the microbes and teas and its been a money pit I spent 200$ to replenish some bottles this week. So I'm hoping I can afford a pc this week. I'm using this power pressure cooker xl, I guess it gets to 15 psi but doesn't hold it, which if you wanna be technical, no it's not 100% sterilization. I don't know I just set it on canning/preserving and set it on well/wild and it heats up for 30 min then sets for 2 hours and runs for 2 hours. Right when it's done I let all the steam out so the jars don't get condensation on them and either put them in a sealed tub to cool or just leave them in the pc. So far I've had success with the jars colonizing. I failed at pf tek. But I successfully have been pulling a shit ton of funguys out of these shoeboxes. I started the shoe boxes on May 25th and they're still growing. They alternate back and forth I just picked one shoe box and now another one's pinningView attachment 5164433

Case.

canndo · Jul 16, 2022

Drop That Sound said:
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There's all kinds of 55 gallon barrel steamer kits out there to put together. Companies that carry all the parts too.

They aren't using real pressure though, which is why i was thinking about using multiple pressure pots instead, the ones with the weights that sit on the lid. I could rig something up where I put in heating coils into each one, instead of trying to pump in steam.. Anyway..

Apparently you can steam the substrate without pressure, in huge bulk quantities, and many farms are doing it?

That is steam pasteurization. Most farms do that, it's the only way to treat large scale compost operations.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 18, 2022

canndo said:
I bought a used cooker somewhere. I never really inspected it or refurbished it. Six months or so after I had been using it, my wife was on her way into the kitchen when it blew up. Specifically, the emergency release plug gave way. It could have seriously scalded her
There was a layer of water all over the ceiling and floor. I swear it looked like far more water than I put in it.

Point is... maintain your pot
Switch out the gaskets and such every year or two. Given that one can weaken a unit by running it dry or dropping it, I would never again get a used one where I don't know what has happened to it.

I have five of them of various sizes and uses. Pressire cooking is the ONLY way one should cook artichokes

Ya I'm gonna just get a new one. I figure if I take care of it I'll have it forever.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 18, 2022

Gonna get a little reptile tank fogger to mess around with.

Blueberry bref · Jul 18, 2022

My old lady wanted me to take a stab at growing some mushrooms for her birthday and I’m pretty hooked on the whole process. A few months back, I picked up Jack Frost and started a few grain bags and a few brf cakes (I wanted to build a little sgfc just to see the process play out)

Here’s some shots from the two tubs.

I’m pretty sure both got a little too dry at one point; but I’d love any advice if anyone sees anything obvious.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 19, 2022

Blueberry bref said:
My old lady wanted me to take a stab at growing some mushrooms for her birthday and I’m pretty hooked on the whole process. A few months back, I picked up Jack Frost and started a few grain bags and a few brf cakes (I wanted to build a little sgfc just to see the process play out)

Here’s some shots from the two tubs.View attachment 5165822 View attachment 5165823 View attachment 5165824 View attachment 5165832

I’m pretty sure both got a little too dry at one point; but I’d love any advice if anyone sees anything obvious.

That's so strange u said that. I Literally got jack frost spores yesterday. Along with Natalensis and APEU. Heard the jack frosts are strong and move fast. Looks good to me. In my short experience the sub has turned bluish when dry and the pins stall turn dark and die. Why do you say it's dry? I see the moisture droplets on there. I failed miserably with a sgfc. Spawning to shoeboxes now.

Blueberry bref · Jul 19, 2022

7L!fTeD24 said:
That's so strange u said that. I Literally got jack frost spores yesterday. Along with Natalensis and APEU. Heard the jack frosts are strong and move fast. Looks good to me. In my short experience the sub has turned bluish when dry and the pins stall turn dark and die. Why do you say it's dry? I see the moisture droplets on there. I failed miserably with a sgfc. Spawning to shoeboxes now.

One of the tubs had formed lakes of, I guess, enzymes/myc piss through the middle of it while spawning and it freaked me out a bit. I brought the moisture down for a week before I realized that I was bugging and I’ve been working on keeping the water content right ever since. You can see some of the yellow patches in that second pic where the tub was starting to stress some. Or I was stressing the whole time and it was fine.

I had to put a seedling mat under the sgfc to get it working right but it’s at least moving for me, I kind of doubt I’ll ever use it again though, will probably pass it off to a friend that wants to learn and just replace it with another tub.

canndo · Jul 19, 2022

Free water is NOT fine. It can weaken the mycelium calling on trich
The yellow metabolites are also fine fare for contamination that will quickly spread
You are also prone to bacterial contamination.

The standing puddles are from excess spraying, high temperatures or condensate.

Consider sterilizing some paper towels and blotting the water off. If your environment is clean enough a free fan will help, otherwise all it will do is push more offending spores into the soup.

Blueberry bref · Jul 19, 2022

canndo said:
The standing puddles are from excess spraying, high temperatures or condensate.

Yeah, we are struggling to keep the house in the 70s at this point and it’s not looking cooler anytime in the future. After I started digging for the cause, I ultimately chalked it up to the heat. I had the tubs sitting in a dark corner near a window that had been getting hotter than I expected during the day, like the blinds in the window are getting soft and warping hot.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 20, 2022

Blueberry bref said:
Yeah, we are struggling to keep the house in the 70s at this point and it’s not looking cooler anytime in the future. After I started digging for the cause, I ultimately chalked it up to the heat. I had the tubs sitting in a dark corner near a window that had been getting hotter than I expected during the day, like the blinds in the window are getting soft and warping hot.

I had some yellow on my tubsbin the beginning and it comes and goes. Idk same tubs still harvesting. I noticed now later in the game that I'm getting a bunch of pins but then only about five giant mushrooms will grow

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 20, 2022

Pulled this out of the tub this morning, minus 1 the size of the one in the middle I just ate. I also noticed now in these tubs later on later flushes they've been more potent and are completely full of blue inside

This was the 1st flush. For some reason there's been about 5 flushes and I just spray after I pick em all. Once a onset comes in I don't spray anymore and if it's getting dry I side water a little.

Blueberry bref · Jul 20, 2022

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 21, 2022

Blueberry bref said:
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Looks perfect to me. What did you use for substrate?

canndo · Jul 21, 2022

You can easily get three times your yield and likely accelerate fruiting by casing. Try 3 parts sifted peat, .5 parts gypsum 10 parts med or coarse vermiculite.

Adjust your pH to 7 to 8, field saturation and then pasturize at 160 to 180 for several hours.

Looks like you have stroma on the top.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 23, 2022

canndo said:
You can easily get three times your yield and likely accelerate fruiting by casing. Try 3 parts sifted peat, .5 parts gypsum 10 parts med or coarse vermiculite.

Adjust your pH to 7 to 8, field saturation and then pasturize at 160 to 180 for several hours.

Looks like you have stroma on the top.

Is stroma like overlay. That hard white stuff on top of sub?

canndo · Jul 23, 2022

7L!fTeD24 said:
Is stroma like overlay. That hard white stuff on top of sub?

It is

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 26, 2022

Shoeboxes all lookin good but this particular shoebox was an experiment, I don't know if you guys remember but I inoculated a bunch of brf jars with a gt syringe. Well I noticed a ton a spores left over in it after I emptied the syringe. So i sucked up 10cc of distilled water and saw tons of spores in it, wanted to try wbs but didn't have ships so all I did was open the lid on the wbs jars and squirted it in. Jars colonized quick with no visible contams and the 2 shoeboxes look like this one. I have 6 shoeboxes in this stage now and a bunch more strains colinizing.

7L!fTeD24 · Jul 26, 2022

One question? So when I make my shoe boxes and I have the lid on waiting a lot of condensation Builds on the lid and then we'll drip down onto the substrate. When I see all that condensation should I just take the lid off and flick the condensation off so it doesn't fall on my sub? Thanks guys

canndo · Jul 26, 2022

7L!fTeD24 said:
Shoeboxes all lookin good but this particular shoebox was an experiment, I don't know if you guys remember but I inoculated a bunch of brf jars with a gt syringe. Well I noticed a ton a spores left over in it after I emptied the syringe. So i sucked up 10cc of distilled water and saw tons of spores in it, wanted to try wbs but didn't have ships so all I did was open the lid on the wbs jars and squirted it in. Jars colonized quick with no visible contams and the 2 shoeboxes look like this one. I have 6 shoeboxes in this stage now and a bunch more strains colinizing.
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Just so you are aware. Your grow is a keeper. One rarely sees such rhizomorphic growth in substrate.

I highly recommend you isolate and preserve that, not the spores but the actual genetic expression of what ever you have there.

Odds are it will yield spectacularly.

Buy some pre-made

each tree dishes" and get a tissue sample from the first fruit you get.

Flork · Jul 28, 2022

So at the same time I swabbed my agar plates with B+ I also inoculated 3 brf jars and a grain jar with a ms syringe also with B+.

Looks like 2 brf jars failed and one is colonizing along with the grain jar.
I actually expected all failures my first time around and was just going through the motions to gain knowledge and experience.

I'm happy so far.

Agar plates look ok to me but I don't know much of what I'm doing.

Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

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