Anybody else thinking about getting a 2nd vax?

rkymtnman said:

it's official: the RIU guinea pig just got the moderna. it's flowing thru my veins right now.

so far so good.

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hanimmal said:

Does this mean we are eskimo bros?

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mooray said:

When I google your exact words of "spiked protein moving away from the vaccine site", this is the first link that pops up...

AAAS

blogs.sciencemag.org

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PJ Diaz said:

That article doesn't address the issue I'm speaking of at all, and really misses the point. The problem is the spike protein from the vaccine is moving all over the body including passing the blood-brain barrier, and especially concerning is how it's propagating in higher concentrations in women's ovaries.

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PJ Diaz said:

That article doesn't address the issue I'm speaking of at all, and really misses the point. The problem is the spike protein from the vaccine is moving all over the body including passing the blood-brain barrier, and especially concerning is how it's propagating in higher concentrations in women's ovaries.

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Compare this, though, to what happens in vaccination. The injection is intramuscular, not into the bloodstream. That’s why a muscle like the deltoid is preferred, because it’s a good target of thicker muscle tissue without any easily hit veins or arteries at the site of injection.....So the muscle cells around the injection are hit by the vaccine (whether mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles or adenovirus vectors) while a good portion of the remaining dose is in the intercellular fluid and thus drains through the lymphatic system, not the bloodstream. That’s what you want, since the lymph nodes are a major site of immune response.

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Now we get to a key difference: when a cell gets the effect of an mRNA nanoparticle or an adenovirus vector, it of course starts to express the Spike protein. But instead of that being assembled into more infectious viral particles, as would happen in a real coronavirus infection, this protein gets moved up to the surface of the cell, where it stays. That’s where it’s presented to the immune system, as an abnormal intruding protein on a cell surface. The Spike protein is not released to wander freely through the bloodstream by itself, because it has a transmembrane anchor region that (as the name implies) leaves it stuck......You certainly don’t have the real-infection situation of Spike-covered viruses washing along everywhere through the circulation. The Spike protein produced by vaccination is not released in a way that it gets to encounter the ACE2 proteins on the surface of other human cells at all: it’s sitting on the surface of muscle and lymphatic cells up in your shoulder, not wandering through your lungs causing trouble.

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Some of the vaccine dose is going to make it into the bloodstream, of course. But keep in mind, when the mRNA or adenovirus particles do hit cells outside of the liver or the site of injection, they’re still causing them to express Spike protein anchored on their surfaces, not dumping it into the circulation......The great majority of the radioactivty stays in and around the injection site. In the first hours, there’s also some circulating in the plasma. But almost all of that ended up in the liver, and no other tissue was much over 1% of the total. That’s exactly what you’d expect, and what you see with drug dosing in general: your entire blood volume goes sluicing through the liver again and again, because that’s what the liver is for. But when things like this hit the hepatic tissue, they stay there and eventually get chewed up by various destructive enzymes (that’s also a big part of what the liver is for). It’s a one-way ticket.

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rkymtnman said:

Seems I beat Trudeau to the punch. lol.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau just got a second Moderna shot after getting his first COVID-19 vaccine from AstraZeneca

Canada supports mixing and matching vaccine doses - like following AstraZeneca with Moderna - but it's not approved in the US.

www.yahoo.com

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Rob Roy said:

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hanimmal said:

If that means you got vaccinated, congrats man.

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Rob Roy said:

I appreciate your kind intentions, but I did not become part of the experiment.

The only thing I have in common with "the vaccine" manufacturers is we both have good immunity, although theirs is legal immunity and mine is the other kind.

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hanimmal said:

Oh well, I had hope you were not just a brainwashed idiot thinking that they knew better than the decades of science that went into the same kind of healthcare that has doubled the human lifespan over the last hundred years or so..

The rest of what you said is stupid trolling bullshit though.

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Rob Roy said:

Would you like to guess how many doctors haven't gotten the experimental vaccines yet ? I read it was a significant percentage. Wonder why that is?

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CunningCanuk said:

Where did you read that?

If you can’t provide a link to where you read that, you are full of shit.

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