Any powdery mildew experts?

Norby Grown said:

Listen here you oversized dumbass meathead, I used it twice, I don't use it anymore other than those 2 times 1.5 years ago. Even a dumbass like you should be able to understand this surely.
At least I'm not too lazy to learn. It's not "banned" on tobacco, it hasn't been tested as to how long it lingers on tobacco. And tobacco also gives off hydrogen cyanide when burned, dumbass!

Again, respect from people who are a bunch of brainwashed unrespectful parrots doesn't really bother me. The reason no one speaks up is because you have driven anyone who thinks for themselves off the board or quieted them by bashing their ability to think for themselves.

Now if you could tell me how much HC comes off a cigrette and how many PPB you would have to have in a joint to equal the amount of HC that comes off a cigarette maybe I'd listen.

But as it stands eagle 20 can be used safely if you follow certain guidelines and get tests done. If you let arguments stand on their merit you wouldn't have anything to say.

The reason I said I only used it twice is because I don't think it's right to use it on every crop or on a crop more than once. But you don't care about that because you are just out to argue about something you know nothing about.

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Norby Grown said:

LOL

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whitebb2727 said:

I can tell you this, part of my job in the military was hazardous material handling, storage and disposal. With dangerous chemicals like eagle 20 its not the once or twice you are exposed to it. Its the repeated exposure.

Go beyond that and the fact it creates cyanide when burned no telling the damage you've done to yourself or others. Sometimes it takes years for it to show up.

I'm sure you know you are in the wrong or you wouldn't be trying to justify it by saying "I only used it twice."

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Norby Grown said:

You said it yourself that it's the repeated exposure and your trolling me for using it 2x. I put myself more at risk atomizing that shit then I did my patients. Cigarettes contain cyanide and all my patients smoked cigarettes. They were exposed to a lot of HC but it was from teh smokes not anything I sprayed eagle 20 on as I got it tested and there was none left. you just can't seem to grasp what I'm telling you, seems like a problem with your ability to process information. I'd get that looked into if I were you.

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whitebb2727 said:

We are not talking about cigarettes. We all know those are dangerous. Try to pay attention.

If you only used it twice why and how did you quit using it?

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whitebb2727 said:

Blah blah blah. Keep flapping your gums. They very statement "I only used it twice" shows you know you are wrong.

I'm actually a very smart guy. Been farming all my life. I know how it works.


Lol a you want.

You are the one that used dangerous chemicals because of pm. I never have. Lol. I know how to prevent it.

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Norby Grown said:

I only used it twice because I sprayed coconut oil around all teh bottom of the walls to catch any spores. After you get rid of PM you don't have to worry about it anymore. I don't understand why you would think you'd have to keep on using it.

You aren't one of these people who think that the PM spores are everywhere and you are always at risk of getting PM are you?


You think you know how it works.
And no, you are showing that you actually aren't very smart.

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whitebb2727 said:

I actually believe pm spores are quit common. That doesn't equate to it being a problem.

I haven't shown any ignorance. You have by defending using an untested chemical and trying to defend it.

Saying this like you are certified to spray chemicals in your state. There is no requirement for certification. Should be. Any ole dummy can order what ever they want and use it.

Any certification of chemical application would fall under pesticide application license. I have one. Had to take two test for this state.

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Norby Grown said:

Lets work on your info processing problem too. What don't you understand about there being no trace of Myclobutanil found in the buds of the plants I sprayed? Are you able to understand that I sprayed plants and got them tested and there was no Myclobutanil found in the buds? That means I tested it. It's no longer untested. It's full parameters haven't been defined on a bunch of different strains under different temps and environments but I tested it after I used it. Using it and seeing it's gone is safe. Much safer than thinking that the "approved" pesticides and fungicides are safe.
Really, quite common? You know the PM that affects MJ only affects MJ and hops? And you think that's common? It gets spread by people thinking they have it under control and going to grow stores and brushing up against someone or passing out clones. Ive never heard of it randomly appear in a garden, always from a clone or someone spreading spores because they have it.

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Norby Grown said:

It (myclobutanil) doesn't move into the buds, it's not systemic in the way that you think. It only moves thru the top layer of cells it doesn't get moved to new growth. So you spray with no buds and teh buds don't get much if any into them.
Again, why would I continue to use it after the PM is gone. i don't use neem either or a whole bunch of other products I don't need to use. But yes, it's more dangerous to spray so I don't spray it since I don't need it. I never said it was completely safe to use in flowering or from a spraying standpoint. You seem to try to paint my argument being that it's harmless. i never said that, it's far from it. So I think you are arguing against me in a sense that I never defended, try and pay better attention to what I'm saying. I said it was ok to use once or twice so that you can rid a perpetual garden of PM. That's it.
And the tests were from close to 2 years ago.

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Norby Grown said:

First off, again, haven't used it in over 1.5 years, catch on dimwit. And the rest I don't understand. Please structure your sentences better if you want a reply. but I thought you didn't want to continue this conversation? Quite a confusing bunch. Conflicting info, terrible sentence structure and very mixed signals going around here.


You're missing out on a few key points why tobacco and not cannabis n why were those legal ops told to quarantine the ones it was used on and the reason it hasn't probably been assessed is the legality...you spray it? U know that shit is...look good-looking to u I. Hope ur patients don't suffer


Let's see ur plants

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Tangerine_ said:

My links were added as extra info so that others could read up further. There is nothing conflicting. Yes, PM is systemic (in a sense). Does it "replicate" on its own inside plant tissue? No. But, it IS inside the plants tissue.

As far as Eagle 20, to put it in very simple terms- it has the potential to linger and when combusted is a dangerous poison that could have adverse effects. Those effects could prove life threatening to the unknowing.

At this point your responses are nothing more than a warped attempt at justifying your decision to use it and then irresponsibly pass it on to pts.

So again...if YOU want to use that shit go ahead, but do not tell other growers/med providers its as safe as a AACT or any other spray. ITS NOT.

And as far your "weed is banned too" rhetoric? What a bunch of pretentious horseshit, lol.

Now, I'll kindly ask you to please stop quoting me. I've already made it clear that I have no wish to debate this with you. If people take your ill-informed opinions as fact, so be it. As nurse, I think what your proposing people do is dangerous, unnecessary, and irresponsible.

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whitebb2727 said:

Once again you lazy stupid cunt. It is banned on tobacco because it creates hydrogen cyanide when burned.

Hydrogen cyanide.

Go ahead and smoke you shitty weed with hydrogen cyanide.

You think you will actually get any respect from anyone here? No. There is a reason no one is agreeing with you.

You say it has a low acute toxicity. That's if eaten. You don't have the intelligence to grasp the dangers of what you are doing.

Any farmer that uses shit like eagle 20 is lazy. Period.

I grow organic. Cannabis and vegetables.

Maybe I shouldn't call names, I try to let arguments stand on their own merits. I just get tired of people using dangerous chemicals and trying to make others think its ok. Its not. You have no leg to stand on.

I can tell you this, part of my job in the military was hazardous material handling, storage and disposal. With dangerous chemicals like eagle 20 its not the once or twice you are exposed to it. Its the repeated exposure.

Go beyond that and the fact it creates cyanide when burned no telling the damage you've done to yourself or others. Sometimes it takes years for it to show up.

I'm sure you know you are in the wrong or you wouldn't be trying to justify it by saying "I only used it twice."

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whitebb2727 said:

Did you have them lab tested? I doubt it. I provided ok me of the half life being up to 296 days dude. That shit stays around longer than you think. The quickest it leaves crops is a half life of about 26 days. That means it reduces by half every 26 days at the shortest. 296 at the longest.

Unles you have a lab report the shut the fuckup.

I don't have any processing problems. I fully understand its a dangerous product. You did also or you would still be using it.

Have a good one man. No one here is going to agree with you except maybe a couple cash growers that only care about money.

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chemphlegm said:

tobacco smoke has 3 times less hydrogen cyanide than marijuana smoke http://www.ukcia.org/research/ComparisonOfSmoke.pdf
I had no idea I was inhaling that shit, you guys making me ill just learning about it

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Norby Grown said:

It (myclobutanil) doesn't move into the buds, it's not systemic in the way that you think. It only moves thru the top layer of cells it doesn't get moved to new growth. So you spray with no buds and teh buds don't get much if any into them.
Again, why would I continue to use it after the PM is gone. i don't use neem either or a whole bunch of other products I don't need to use. But yes, it's more dangerous to spray so I don't spray it since I don't need it. I never said it was completely safe to use in flowering or from a spraying standpoint. You seem to try to paint my argument being that it's harmless. i never said that, it's far from it. So I think you are arguing against me in a sense that I never defended, try and pay better attention to what I'm saying. I said it was ok to use once or twice so that you can rid a perpetual garden of PM. That's it.
And the tests were from close to 2 years ago.

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theslipperbandit said:

Ignore him dude he's literally ignorant but I must give merit to ur posts..u know Ted bundy has a black belt, not sure in which style but he's a pro

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theslipperbandit said:

Oh he refuses to share any evidence...shits like tag team in here one gets sick of his dribble and another takes over

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chemphlegm said:

tobacco smoke has 3 times less hydrogen cyanide than marijuana smoke http://www.ukcia.org/research/ComparisonOfSmoke.pdf
I had no idea I was inhaling that shit, you guys making me ill just learning about it

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theslipperbandit said:

Did somebody mention scholar

http://journal.ashspublications.org/content/117/6/906.short

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theslipperbandit said:

Oh he refuses to share any evidence...shits like tag team in here one gets sick of his dribble and another takes over

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