any 'lectricians help with wiring to a panel?

cowell

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Hi,
I need to wire a few new plugs to the panel.
I have wired to a panel before, but a long time ago, and I was drunk, and with an electrician, who did most of the work :)

I want to run 3 new lines from the panel. I have 2000 watts HPS to run, and want to run one line for all my fans and pumps.

(my veg and mother room has a line each, so they are ok).

Anyone have a link to a "how to" on running a line safely or want to PM me with some lectrical wizdom on what I need to get and how to set it up?

thanks:leaf:
 

cowell

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bump..
anyone point me to even an already posted thread they know of on the subject - got no problem reading for myself too...
 

cowell

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ok.. fuck you guys.

Just kidding.. I found out for myself. The short answer is youtube.
It was just as simple as I remember it.

Shut of power to the panel, run your wire into the box, attach copper to ground bar, white to panel, black to breaker,
Snap breaker into panel. Close panel, and fire the juice back on.

Anyone who is researching it and stumbles on this thread.. just check youtube. There's a ton of vids that show you what to do, and it's easy.

Edit - just adjusting the wording so "copper" goes first in my rant :) - I see why you pointed that out.. thanks again.
 

cowell

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that's in the video I watched too actually - about the ground first... which I would do automatically out of common sence... but it was in there, and a good point.. where the hell were you guys 2 months ago?

It's not the first time I've wired a panel, I had a pretty good idea what to do, but I wanted a refresher before I tackled it on my own.
 

cowell

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Ya, I have read parts of that thread...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/181708-experienced-electrician-here-answer-any.html

I asked a few people I know on here in PM too... just wanted a fast answer before I did it.. it was finished on the date I asked the question... I was only looking for a refresher on it.

I was just feeling like tying up my thread - THEN all you guys come out to help..LOL... It's all good... you all get rep for trying to help... look out for the rep bomb.
 

sonar

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Are you in North America?

If so, you are going to want to run three individual 20A lines using 12/2 wire. Black will be your hot wire and that will connect to the short slot of the receptacle. Most of the time that is the brass colored screw. The white will connect to the longer slot screw. The bare grounds go to the green screw that is part of the receptacle frame. In the panel, the black wire will get attached to its respected breaker, with the white and grounds getting tied into the neutral bar.

Do you have any specific questions? If so, I'd be more than happy to help.
 

cowell

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Nope.. it's already done mate.

Was done like 2 months ago.. I just updated so if anyone was sifting through the threads they'd have some kind of answer.
I did 2 20 amp breakers (one for each 1000 watt light) and 1 15 amp breaker (only because they didn't have 3 - 20 amp breakers when I went to get them from the hardware store.
I used 14/2 wire. The 12 would have been safer.. but again, more a case where I took what I could get.

Yup, Canadian BTW.

All your info is correct, and exactly what I did. But WHERE WERE YOU 2 MONTHS AGO????
LOL... thanks though bud... Fear and Loathing is a great Depp film too IMO.

I guess I do have a question since I obviously have some informed attention..
Can I get away with running 2000 watts on a 20 amp breaker? or would I have to run 30 amp? Just in case I want to upgrade, I'm out of space now on the panel.
 

sonar

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I didn't take notice to the date. It happens sometimes.

That's a good question though I'm glad you asked. For the 20A lines you really should be running 12/2 wire. The National Electric Code dictates wire size. For a 15A 14/2, 20A 12/2 and 30A 10/2. Those are the 3 most common circuit sizes in a home. As for the actual danger in using 14 gauge wire on a 20A circuit, I can't be certain, all I can say is that it's against code.

Well, 120v times 20A equals 2400w. However, the code states that you really should only use a circuit to 80% capacity, which for a 20A circuit comes out to 1920w. Not to mention that a 1000w hps ballast, even a digital, pulls more than 1000w. Given that information, plus the 14/2 wire, as your electrician I would have tyo say no, don't run 2000w off that circuit. In reality, it's hard to say. If it were me, I'd probably run a 1000w plus another small piece of equipment on each circuit. That way you can run a 1000w ballast off the 15A that you set up to run fans and stuff on.

You can not run a 30A circuit safely because your receptacles are only rated for up to 20A circuits. 30A circuits can only be run with 30A receptacles, which are a different configuration than your standard receptacles with the 2 parallel slots. Generally, a 30A circuit would only be used for a cloths dryer or a small electric stove. You can see that the plug would be different. 20A is as high as you can go safely.
 

cowell

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hmm..
Good info thank you. I only have 2 small runs of line that I would have to change out to 12g... like seriously 3 feet would do both (panel is in the room).
I actually thought that you couldn't run 2000 watts off one line.. I read it somewhere, but didn't fully understand how to equate load on the lines. I believe I also read that you couldn't run 2 600 watts off one line either... But if you could almost run 2000 watts on one.. you likely could go with 2 600's - no?

I am going vertical - so only have room to do 2x 1000 watters, and if I expand it will be to 4000 watts.
I definately played with fire at my last house - surprised that I didn't burn the place down to be honest - old house, old wiring that was always hot while running the show - didn't know any better back then either.. I figured if I wasn't poppin the breaker - I wasn't overloading the circuit.
When I was taking it apart to pack it up to move I noticed one of my timers had melted at the plug for my one 1000 watt. Started doing some research and learned that I was not set up well electrically speaking so want to do it right here.

Thanks for the input - it's appreciated.
 
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