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darkdestruction420

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Yup, that one. lol. the first set of spoilers they put out were fake this week(the ones i talked about up above are real and confirmed, just saying the first set they put out was fake), lol, im really surprised they took so long to come out, i figured w/bleach being off for the week everyone would be focused on naruto so we'd get a good legit spoiler really early this week, man last 2 weeks theyve been out by tue night and pretty complete but this week we didnt see any till this morning and even those arent fully fleshed out yet.
 

darkdestruction420

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wait, today is only wednesday. I guess im just impatient and its seemed like its been forever waiting for them, i thought it was thursday morning for some reason.
 

RavenMochi

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†LHAO† good thing though, that was more than I knew before...now I'm curious who they're going to show and what manda looks like, I know he wants to kill sasuke for that shit...thats going to be a funny ass reunion...
 

RavenMochi

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Having read the spoiler, I don't know if they are related, but they damn sure seem to know each other really well...Think they're getting ready to kill kabuto?
 

darkdestruction420

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lol, that would kind of funny and cool, but after reading the chapter it seems kabuto has more control over them than he made it seem like, diedara was like "hey, why cant i move my body?!" when he wanted to fight the old man and kabuto wanted to keep going. I think its kind of interesting how he can fly and give others the ability to fly, i was wondering when we'd see it in naruto, well god realm pain flew i think too, along with some others who could make things to make them fly like diedara, or konan who i guess you could count as flying since it was her actual body and he paper jutsu that allowed he to fly, but i mean like dbz you can fly cuz you want to sort of flying. Next weeks bleach better be a good one, im gonna be pissed if its just some real vague new story opener chapter that doesnt actually cover anything, but i bet it will be. lol. You think they'll do the isshin arc next? thats what it sounds like tite said he planned but im not sure, he might have another small arc planned and then it or it and then another small arc, or the ishhin arc and then the big arc, if he decided to count the whole "decide" end of aizen and ichigo's battle chapters as an arc itself.
 

RavenMochi

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Yea, I'm not sure what I think about the whole flying thing...†LOL† its amazing how much dbz had an influence on anime to come...not to mention he was getting to shoot an energy ball without any kind of elemental leaning. I'm waiting for the old man to go supersaiyan...I thought it was funny Diedara thought he killed sasuke in the blast...Also I'm curious as to the relationship he has with the old man, I'm guessing that was diedara's teacher...
as far as bleach, I dunno, chances are its going to be a slow story opener, but it would be nice if they just jumped into it. I know it won't happen, but it would be nice...An Isshen arc would be nice...I'm really curious how they're going to do this, because it took daddy forever to get his powers back, but were not really sure if that was a requirement, or he just had no desire to be a shinigami anymore until shit was going down...I'm really hoping for a couple of things before he finishes this manga out 1) resolution in kenpachi's sword, 2) resolution of the rukia/ichigo thing that they've been vague as shit with, always just a look, they act like they're going to say something, and then ichigo will something ignorant and anticlimatic, like "I'm leaving" while they're at it an explanation on what the significance of the captains items that were lost, and what makes captain commander so special...I'm thinking descide might be counted as a mini arc, it really shouldn't, but the way they kept the name going I'm betting it is...
 

darkdestruction420

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diedara is most likely his student, i bet we'll hear a tale about how diedara was the villages shining star and well liked and all that sort of stuff and then either wanted the old man to step down and let him be the kage and/or the old man critized diedaras art so he left the village like orochimaru sort of, the 2 people with the old man both seemed excited to see him and that he was alive somehow and then disappointed when the old man said they were looking at a reanimation of diedara and he really did die. Im pretty interested in how ichigo will regain his powers, what ive been wondering is if maybe ichigo will kind of have a different soul in his sword in a way when he does since zangetsu/hollow fused said he would never see him again, like maybe when his spirit powers are stronger again after time he'll have to re-do what he did when byakuya attacked his soul chain thing so he'd lose his powers even if he lived(or so byakuya thought, lol) if that were the case i could see him back in action much sooner than isshin was because ichigo must be stronger than him imo, otherwise why didnt isshin use the final getsuga tensho himself? he most likely (im totally positive, but their is always the chance he didnt) used it and knows about it and how to use it and how powerful it is, so instead of wasting time for ichigo to learn it i would think he would of done it himself if he thought he could win with it. unless his real objective was not to make sure the strongest possible opponent for aizen would be his son, maybe he had ichigo do it out of paternal instinct so in the end he would be in some danger vs. aizen but after that he would be powerless and unable to continue down the path of fighting and being a vizard and in the long run be safer(i know he's not a member of their group but they did pretty much all get the powers the same way of having their soul chain cut and undergoing hollowfication and then overcoming the hollow inside them.)I dunno if ive brought this up before i might of but I've been wondering why/how aizen is immortal, when he was talking back at his hearing/trial thing they said something about just because he's immortal he shouldnt...well heres the exact quote "Traitor!! Dont get cocky just because your immortal!!!!" what happened to the hogyoku is also something ive been wondering about.
 

darkdestruction420

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man, fucking weird development, apparently the target was not naruto but yamamota and his knowledge of the firsts techniques and cells to strengthen the zetsus. diedaras fight ends with his coffin appearing and forcing him back in and to wherever it is kabuto is storing them all apparently as well. Kind of wasnt expecting this to happen.
I've been thinking bout something you said and i think i figured it out somewhat, maybe the reason kishimoto went and had naruto hurt himself so stupidly after gaining such incredible power and abilities is to sort of hint that while naruto may be stronger than ever and on a whole new level that in the end he still has yet to actually master it and in some ways is still to quote gama bunta "a bumbling ninja".
I'm really disappointed their is still no bleach this week, for some reason i was thinking we'd finally get a new chapter this week but we still got a week to wait. I've been thinking about the final getsuga tensho and isshin and i thought of something, isshin does not appear to be a vizard at all, he seems to be pure soul reaper, if ichigo's hollow had a major role in him being able to use the final getsuga tensho then how was isshin able to in the past? maybe it doesnt matter and isshins swords spirit was able to teach isshin it w/o needing any hollow powers or anything?
 

RavenMochi

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The whole thing with Isshin being pure soul reaper just now dawned on me...I have absolutely no idea...perhaps its just a form of sword release, ie for ichigo because he was hollowfied, perhaps so was his zanpakto? Maybe that wasn't necessary but made his superior, hence why he left his son to do it instead of doing it himself...
Damn...they're going after yamato? Thats really not good. I'm wondering what this completed form of madara's is and if yamato plays any role in that...Think kishi will let yamato get captured? What about killed? Hell, they killed Jiraiya....
 

Hotsause

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Are you up to date on the manga? like do you read the new one each week when they come out? I'd love another stoner to discuss bleach with. The hogyoku's true abilities are so much cooler than what everyone thought it was. Aizen was the only one to figure it out. (im wondering if uruhara might not have a better understanding than he is letting on though)
WELL LETS DO THIS BLEACH IS MY ISH although since i started my night job i havent been following as much
 

darkdestruction420

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The whole thing with Isshin being pure soul reaper just now dawned on me...I have absolutely no idea...perhaps its just a form of sword release, ie for ichigo because he was hollowfied, perhaps so was his zanpakto? Maybe that wasn't necessary but made his superior, hence why he left his son to do it instead of doing it himself...
Damn...they're going after yamato? Thats really not good. I'm wondering what this completed form of madara's is and if yamato plays any role in that...Think kishi will let yamato get captured? What about killed? Hell, they killed Jiraiya....
he gets captured and taken to their base for sure, it could be a ruse/act on his part and he kind of let himself get captured as well though to find madara and kabuto's base im thinking maybe, it also seems madara replaced his sharingan that he had to sacrifice to use inzangi against conan with the rinnengan. one thing that sucks is that while we'll get a new bleach next week we are apparently not getting a new naruto cause kishi's taking a week off.
 

RavenMochi

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he gets captured and taken to their base for sure, it could be a ruse/act on his part and he kind of let himself get captured as well though to find madara and kabuto's base im thinking maybe, it also seems madara replaced his sharingan that he had to sacrifice to use inzangi against conan with the rinnengan. one thing that sucks is that while we'll get a new bleach next week we are apparently not getting a new naruto cause kishi's taking a week off.
WTF?! KISHI, YOU LAZY BASTARD!!! I just finally read naruto, yea, we called it, student/teacher relationship... Was it just me, or did kabuto not look at all like kabuto, he looks like pure orochimaru... and they did catch yamato really easy, but why would he risk going on purpose, especially seeing how much he was looking like oroch, I know he didn't want to be a guinea pig for his experiments...Yea, I'm curious as to why Madara kept one sharingan...So you think Yamato is going to survive this little adventure? I think he will, but I'm honestly not sure... will this be three or four weeks now that there hasn't been both naruto and bleach? With that being the only thing coming out, it better not be a waste of time, spending the whole first chapter on ichigo's normal life since the last event...if they do that I'll be so pissed...
 

darkdestruction420

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WTF?! KISHI, YOU LAZY BASTARD!!! I just finally read naruto, yea, we called it, student/teacher relationship... Was it just me, or did kabuto not look at all like kabuto, he looks like pure orochimaru... and they did catch yamato really easy, but why would he risk going on purpose, especially seeing how much he was looking like oroch, I know he didn't want to be a guinea pig for his experiments...Yea, I'm curious as to why Madara kept one sharingan...So you think Yamato is going to survive this little adventure? I think he will, but I'm honestly not sure... will this be three or four weeks now that there hasn't been both naruto and bleach? With that being the only thing coming out, it better not be a waste of time, spending the whole first chapter on ichigo's normal life since the last event...if they do that I'll be so pissed...
haha, i hear ya there, im sure it will be a big let down chapter but just maybe it wont be. I'm pretty sure he will survive, it kind of seems to be his style to do things like this, he was/is an anbu black ops after all so i dont think putting his life on the line to find the base would scare him but i could see it just being as it seems and he really did get captured. either way though i think its going to end up revealing madaras bases location to everyone, which very well may be what madara wants, them to come to him. Naruto can sense chakras now somewhat even if yamota didnt leave some kind of clue behind leading to him or something and bee would probally follow him so in a way kabuto might of achieved his original goal of bringing them to madaras base and then some. Orochimaru seems to be taking control of their body more and more now, but i still think he's gonna pop out of kabuto at some point even if he was/is in complete control of their body.
 

RavenMochi

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So what of madara's mask? it seems to hint at madara combining the rinningan with the sharingan... I think your right about yamato's kidnapping bringing the naruto and bee to madara. It would be funny to find out that kabuto only has a wood clone though...
 

darkdestruction420

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i wonder what tite kubo is thinking, it appears now that while ichigo's power is gone his sisters powers are now increasing, i hope he's not going to try to make her the main character. i mean we didnt even get a build up to it arc like in dbz with the whole gohan surpassing goku w/the android/cell arcs. oh well, i guess we'll see where he's going with this soon enough.
 

RavenMochi

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what?! are you shitting me? I haven't heard the spoilers...that will suck!!! I mean, don't get me wrong, I wanted to not only see their power develop, but also ichigo's other friend (can't remember her name, chick that used to fight for him, then got left in the dark). We had to wait 2 weeks for this?!! Maybe he's trying to pick up a chick audience? †LOL† just what the anime world needs, more chicks with magic powers...they better not put them in those fucking sailor moon outfits or I'm done...†LOL† just sayin.... :blsmoke:
 

darkdestruction420

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lol, yeah i was really sort of shocked when i heard it, i was really expecting it to go to a flashback arc after this, but w/kubo its hard to tell what his scenes will actually mean when better translated. it does look like karin will have an expanding role in the manga, but it doesnt look like she's going to be butting ichigo out of his spot, in fact i think its going to be critical to him getting his power back, my guess is she will become a hostage or trapped somewhere or something life threatening like that and he will somehow find a way to bring his powers back to save her, although that whole plot line has already been beat to death in this manga in a way(soul society=save rukia)( hueco mundo= save orihime)(final batlle w/aizen=save the rest of his friends).
this is the best spoiler out right now, some of the wording might end up a bit different but its a confirmed rough script from reputable sources.

Translation by saladesu of MH:

Karakura Town, 7am, Monday

Kurosaki Ichigo/17 years old
Hair Color/Orange
Eye Color/Brown
Occupation/High School Student
As for spirits, I can't see them (TN: this is exactly the same as the first chapter of Bleach, save for his age and inability to see spirits)

Ichigo wakes up, saying "I'm sleepy"

Center color looks similar to the one from the first chapter - Ichigo is in front, with numerous characters in the background (such as Tatsuki and Ishida), but everyone is facing towards the bacl.

Ichigo changes into his school uniform. When he goes to the kitchen, Yuzu appears in her uniform and goes "ta~da!". She has her hair tied back in 2 pigtails.
However, Ichigo doesn't give much of a reaction to that and just asks her to pass the soy sauce. Yuzu gets angry with him over that as she passes him the soy sauce.
"I went through all that effort to keep what I look like in my new uniform a secret, and now that I'm showing it to you, you won't even look at me! I've never seen a brother like that," Yuzu passes Ichigo the rice.
At that, Ichigo murmurs, "I'm looking alright, and your zipper's open"
Karin watches this exchange, and pokes her chopsticks at the glasses of a spirit that is hovering around her. Ichigo does not see this at all.
Isshin appears, calling Yuzu's name loudly, asking which bowtie he should wear with the suit he is wearing to her entrance ceremony.
Yuzu: "Yeah, it's alright, either one is fine", she doesn't seem interested at all. isshin is shocked.
It has been 17 months since that battle, a little over a year. Ichigo has become a third year student.
With regards to his Shinigami powers, when Ichigo was sleeping, Chad and the rest had told Keigo and the rest all about it, seeming to trust them with it.
Ichigo says that he's happy that they had accepted it without saying anything.
Mizuiro is waiting for him outside when he leaves the house, he has a new hairstyle with his ears hidden by his hair, a little like Rukia.
Karin and Yuzu go to the middle school with Isshin. Ever since Ichigo lost his spiritual powers, Karin's has gotten stronger, and Karin now has hi-spec spiritual disposition.
She doesn't discuss it with Ichigo, so it seems they have reached some sort of mutual understanding on the matter.
When they reach school, Keigo comes dashing towards them. Ichigo does a pro-wrestling move as he greets him.
It seems Mizuiro is now in a different class, so he heads to his own class saying "see you at lunch"
Inside a classroom labeled 3-3, Tatsuki asks if Ichigo has brought the Tekken (TN: fist? it's also the name of a game). Karin (TN: I think this might be a typo. 69ruma might mean Tatsuki) hair is now as long as Kuukaku's.
Ichigo opens his bag saying "I brought it, I brought it". In his bag is the old Shinigami replacement identification. Ichigo passes the Tekken to Karin (TN: Tatuski?)
He didn't get a chance to return the shinigami replacement identification , and since he lost his powers it has stopped working as well, it's just a wooden plank now that it can neither serve as an alarm, and now normal people can see it too.
But it is also the only remaining proof that Ichigo was once a shinigami.
Ichigo absently plays with the badge even during lessons. Suddenly, there is a voice, "Ishida! Where are you going!"
Ishida runs away shouting "Nurse's office!" (it's not clear whether they are in the same class)
Now Ishida has taken on the role of Hollow purifications. It seems the afro dude is even more unreliable than expected.
And since that day, Rukia has not come by Karakura town even once.
Ichigo talks about university choices on the roof with Keigo. Keigo: "Ichigo, your grades had been good when we first entered high school, but somewhere in the middle of the first year you started failing"
Ichigo: "I was busy with all sorts of things then, and I'm still above average"
Keigo murmurs: "I wonder how Rukia-chan's doing"
Ichigo: "Why are you suddenly bringing up Rukia?"
Keigo: "She's so cold, she hasn't even shown her face since that day"
Ichigo: 'That's to be expected, she's no longer in charge off Karakura town."
Keigo: "Aren't you lonely?"
Ichigo: "No way"

Ichigo: "Only from the time when I was 16, did I finally get to live a normal life. I'm fine if I could live peacefully like this until I die."
Keigo: That's true, I don't want to feel that sort of fear again"
Ichigo: "I never felt superior just because I could see spirits. I never thought of making a living off that either, and neither did I think of helping others with that power. I longed for a life where I couldn't see spirits, and it's come true"
A guy carrying a bag slips past Ichigo, Keigo, Mizuiro, who are on their way back to the classroom. A hefty guy is chasing after the other guy.
Ichigo passes his bag to Mizuiro and chases after the guy who is running away.
He catches up to the guy and punches by the guy when he turns around. The guy who falls to the ground stands up again and pulls out a knife to counterattack, but Ichigo manages to catch the knife's blade between his fingers and stop the hand holding the knife and punch him again.
The body and reflexes he had trained as a shinigami in order to win are still with him, also another of the proofs that he was once a shinigami.
Ichigo returns the bag to the owner, who is the tall guy. His hair is all swept back, and he thanks Ichigo, and humorously says that he'll even treat Ichigo to ramen.
Ichigo rejects the offer and walks away, adding that he'll get into trouble so keep it a secret that he'd hit someone.
Guy: "I see, that's a pity"
After Ichigo leaves, he opens the zipper of his bag, and just like Ichigo, he is holding onto a replacement shinigami identification.
Guy: "He's a surprisingly wary one, isn't he, that Kurosaki Ichigo"
BLEACH 424. The Lost Agent
The disappearance of the Shinigami Replacement arc.
 

RavenMochi

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Just read it...had such depressing feel to it...yea, ichigo is definitely the main character still...Rukia will be back in the picture fairly soon, I think they may actually go somewhere with that this time. I wonder what the new replacement's interest in ichigo are? Yea, he's going to be getting his power back soon...I think its funny his dad has gone back to playing stupid...As much as ichigo say's he's happy about it, he looks depressed...though, that could have just been the mood of the chapter to be honest...
 

RavenMochi

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wow...yea, didn't see that coming. Kabuto has the whole cast of dead naruto characters...seriously, if they died in this series, EVER, that fucker seems to have them, though I question how useful the jinchuuriki will be as none of them will have their bijuu...this is going to be wicked...also, I like the continued kyuubi training...thats going to be a fucking trip....

Bleach is actually looking pretty good...though they taking a slugs pace right now...I'm looking foward to seeing how that developed...
 

darkdestruction420

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i dont know how i feel about that, in one way its really lame but in another way its kind of cool. kabuto just having god like power all of the sudden to bring anyone he wants to bring back to life is kind of lame but it will also be kind of cool to see the old characters and their interactions with the other characters in the story.
 
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