Angry plants, Pics! Need help!

Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #1

Heya all. So these plants are all between 50-60 days Veg... They are tiny as compared to what I would expect them to be.

They are under 2 65 watt cfls, and the bigger is under 3 26watt and a 30watt 2' for the moment.

Nutes are Miracle Grow general 24-8-16.

A much more detailed write up as to what has gone on, and the specifics can be found at https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/202861-cfl-grow-distress.html.


Thanks all!

 

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stumps

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #2

looks like lack of light a little to warm and hot nutes.

 

Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #3

Thanks for the suggestions! I know light is an issue, and I want to make a grow box inside to better utilize the cfl's


The nutes have been very lightly added, much less than probably should have been.

 

stumps

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #4

week 6 under 100w cfl.

 

NeoAnarchist

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #5

ya, u burned her. nute burn that is. thats what happens with MG tho. good luck

 

stumps

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• Jun 13, 2009

• #6

sorry hit the wrong pic first was like week 3-4. this one is week 6

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Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #7

Hrm. I'm not sure how it could be nute burn, as the first time nutes were used, the yellowing had already started. The larger plant could definetly be nute brun, because it was originally started in MG soil. The four smaller ones, (Which I would like to save) had nutes added only one time, and then again when I posted a few days ago. I am creating a rubbermaid grow box, and also thinking about making a flowering chamber in the closet... That way I could utilize the size and conserve light. It's a small closet, but I feel like the height of it wastes alot of my light.

 

indianaman

New Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #8

the bottoms of your plants aren't getting light, my leaves fell off due to root rot and fungus due to shite drainage, and clear containers. thus the 1 stem effect. 60 days in VEG is rough, i stole a street light in desperation. ha ha.

 

stumps

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #9

how did you mix your nutes? what type of soil? what do you water with? how often? It might not be nute burn. Might just be lack of light.

 

Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #10

indianaman said:

the bottoms of your plants aren't getting light, my leaves fell off due to root rot and fungus due to shite drainage, and clear containers. thus the 1 stem effect. 60 days in VEG is rough, i stole a street light in desperation. ha ha.

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hahaha. Sadly, I am almost at that point. I have some friends who nabbed lights from signs being lit up at night, ended up being 250 watt HPS. (Sigh)

Hrm. So if I made a "chamber" then I should be able to bring these around by adding side lighting then?

Another inquiry - what would happen if I sent all these into Flowering, but gave them adaquite light? (2 65 watts and 6 23watts in a smaller space)

 

Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #11

Picture of soil is attached. I have a 5 gallon water jug, that is filled with a gallon at a time, then set out overnight. (Night before watering) I then add a quarter strength dose of nutes, and mix for a few minutes. (Shaking the whole thing) Then it is simply dealt out evenly via a normal watering. No foliage feeding or anything.

I try to eyeball the watering... generally not any more often than every 4th day or so.

 

indianaman

New Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #12

i'd really go chump something because your plants are stressed and will likely herm in flower and little light means little buds HPS is my friend.

my future set up. with baby light side light

 

indianaman

New Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #13

all those lights cost me like 80 bucks including the 50 i spent on the HPS 400s

cant decide if to use 2x 400 hps or 1 400 hps and 1 400 MH with the baby light.

 

stumps

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #14

indianaman said:

i'd really go chump something because your plants are stressed and will likely herm in flower and little light means little buds HPS is my friend.

my future set up. with baby light side light

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go chump something???

 

stumps

Well-Known Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #15

2x400 hps for flower

 

indianaman

New Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #16

as in steal.....

http://cnx.org/content/m19530/latest...0Incubator.png

blue baby light spectrum.

mine is from like the cold war soviet bloc or something

 

Ju5blaz3

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #17

Damn!!! if u ask me i suggest u get some nutes with alittle lest than 24 percent nitrogen And less than 16 percent potassium.. try looking for some nutes with this nutrient content of 15-8-5 or 12-8-5 .. Definately some nute burn in there..

 

Topher89

Active Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #18

stumps said:

how did you mix your nutes? what type of soil? what do you water with? how often? It might not be nute burn. Might just be lack of light.

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Soil, missed it in the last post.

 

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nick james

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• Jun 13, 2009

• #19

Topher89 said:

Heya all. So these plants are all between 50-60 days Veg... They are tiny as compared to what I would expect them to be.

They are under 2 65 watt cfls, and the bigger is under 3 26watt and a 30watt 2' for the moment.

Nutes are Miracle Grow general 24-8-16.

A much more detailed write up as to what has gone on, and the specifics can be found at https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/202861-cfl-grow-distress.html.


Thanks all!

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Looks like your using poor soil. when a plant is pail, with leaves curling upward, this tells me calcium deficiency. But calcium deficiency is often mistaken for improper ph. check ph levels and bring ph to 6.5-7. improper ph is often linked to poor soil conditions. Hydroponic growing is much eaiser. here is a link to cheap hydroponic systems http://clonebucket.com/

 

indianaman

New Member

• Jun 13, 2009

• #20

Ju5blaz3 said:

Damn!!! if u ask me i suggest u get some nutes with alittle lest than 24 percent nitrogen And less than 16 percent potassium.. try looking for some nutes with this nutrient content of 15-8-5 or 12-8-5 .. Definately some nute burn in there..

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what? that's strong shit. you don't really need P or K in large amounts until flower i do believe.

flush soil with water for a few days
then slowly star using a very dilute solution
24% anything is really high.
we used 10-10-10 for lawns at my job