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Critical+ shorty at Day 32.

vacuum bot- Xiaomi is the same ...lol

when not trying to fook cat ..lol

vostok said:

vacuum bot is the same ...lol

when not trying to fook cat ..lol

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ahaha I've seen those.
Yeah I bet my cats would shit themselves seeing that scootin' around. lol

Just some little gals (also PC cuts) hitching a ride on the edge of the garden at Day 32.



The room is not nearly full enough for my liking but I had to make this run anyway because I needed the medicine badly.
Next round we'll have new genetics and the room should be (hopefully) crowded as fuck in flowering.

OzDankDizzle said:

Adjustawings Avenger large reflectors with dual 600w (one each MH & HPS).
I really dig these reflectors and the dual bulb set-up. I've had great results, these reflectors make for a nice canopy usually.

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Thanks a bunch for sharing your very nice grow with us.
I didn't have a small sugestion, or comment,
As you are hitting your plants with 2 , 600 watt bulbs ,one MH, the other HPS,
I like the 600 watt bulbs lot,
Here is the issue ( other then spectrum)
Is the HPS pushs out about 100k lumens, the MH will be a lot less lumens, (lumens is where it is at) the total idea behind having the light lumens is density of bud and penatration into the canopy.
You have two bulbs overlapping , the canopy will not get any more then 100 k lumens , basicly wasting the whole productive output of the MH.
( Other then spectrum)
In my opinion you would be better off if you have the room seperating these lights, this would increase your growing production by double with the same wattage or just get rid of the HM all together and maybe add a lower wattage aquarium bulb for spectrum if you want .
Rather then the two bulbs you would be better off with just one 1000 watt bulb.
The 1000 puts off around 150000 lumens,
If you thought of this as throwing a ball, if you threw too balls at 100 km a hour both of those balls would land for example 30 meters away, no matter how many balls you throw at this speed it will still land at the same distance.
Now if you throw the ball at 150 km a hour the ball then lands 50 Meyers away.
When you are thinking of your canaopy you are thinking almost single demensional, you are wanting to fill the canopy out to increase production,
Your concern for production needs to be filling the canopy to it's depth potential , not width,
You are concerned with growing lots of colas,
The plant is energy, plants will produce obviously more weight when you train it to more colas.
But that is a point of saturation,
The plant will only produce as much as the root mass will allow it to.
So for instance if you grow 40 colas on 16 litre container , the plant t produces X amount of weed.
If you take that down to fewer colas the plant will still produce the same amount.
In order to get the plant to produce more weed we have to add more light or more root mass. (Root bound plants lose lots of production)
You would be better if you removed more of your colas and trained the plant to fewer main terminal stems to allow for more light penatration and allow the plant to develop deeper into the canopy bearer the terminal stems.
The plants you have would be straight monsters if trained correctly .
And by the way you are a fine grower doing a good job

In 20 litre pots, trained to 3 to 4 colas each would maximize your production ,
6 plants spaced even under the one 600 watt lamp in a 4 ft by 4 ft area , with the light contained within the area would maximize your production.

max420thc said:

Thanks a bunch for sharing your very nice grow with us.
I didn't have a small sugestion, or comment,
As you are hitting your plants with 2 , 600 watt bulbs ,one MH, the other HPS,
I like the 600 watt bulbs lot,
Here is the issue ( other then spectrum)
Is the HPS pushs out about 100k lumens, the MH will be a lot less lumens, (lumens is where it is at) the total idea behind having the light lumens is density of bud and penatration into the canopy.
You have two bulbs overlapping , the canopy will not get any more then 100 k lumens , basicly wasting the whole productive output of the MH.
( Other then spectrum)
In my opinion you would be better off if you have the room seperating these lights, this would increase your growing production by double with the same wattage or just get rid of the HM all together and maybe add a lower wattage aquarium bulb for spectrum if you want .
Rather then the two bulbs you would be better off with just one 1000 watt bulb.
The 1000 puts off around 150000 lumens,
If you thought of this as throwing a ball, if you threw too balls at 100 km a hour both of those balls would land for example 30 meters away, no matter how many balls you throw at this speed it will still land at the same distance.
Now if you throw the ball at 150 km a hour the ball then lands 50 Meyers away.
When you are thinking of your canaopy you are thinking almost single demensional, you are wanting to fill the canopy out to increase production,
Your concern for production needs to be filling the canopy to it's depth potential , not width,
You are concerned with growing lots of colas,
The plant is energy, plants will produce obviously more weight when you train it to more colas.
But that is a point of saturation,
The plant will only produce as much as the root mass will allow it to.
So for instance if you grow 40 colas on 16 litre container , the plant t produces X amount of weed.
If you take that down to fewer colas the plant will still produce the same amount.
In order to get the plant to produce more weed we have to add more light or more root mass. (Root bound plants lose lots of production)
You would be better if you removed more of your colas and trained the plant to fewer main terminal stems to allow for more light penatration and allow the plant to develop deeper into the canopy bearer the terminal stems.
The plants you have would be straight monsters if trained correctly .
And by the way you are a fine grower doing a good job

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Thanks mate, that's really good stuff and definitely food for thought. Great explanation about the lighting, I'd thought perhaps I should just have the 600watters spread out more. But I had the large Adjustashades already so I went with the twin bulb set-up. However, I'm definitely not done tweaking the room, will probably end up with 6x aircooled hoods before summer with one 600w each covering more space.

I'm also feelin ya on the training, I am only now after years of growing really starting to manipulate my plants to grow the way I like. I've got a lot of on the job learning to do on this front.

Appreciate the advice, bro.

OzDankDizzle said:

Thanks mate, that's really good stuff and definitely food for thought. Great explanation about the lighting, I'd thought perhaps I should just have the 600watters spread out more. But I had the large Adjustashades already so I went with the twin bulb set-up. However, I'm definitely not done tweaking the room, will probably end up with 6x aircooled hoods before summer with one 600w each covering more space.

I'm also feelin ya on the training, I am only now after years of growing really starting to manipulate my plants to grow the way I like. I've got a lot of on the job learning to do on this front.

Appreciate the advice, bro.

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The ajusta shades as you call then we call them bat wings , but they are actually a very good light reflecting material and you can aim the beam , I know they are hot, but I like a exposed bulb, the glass of hoods cuts down on the lumens output of the bulb, a lot of the glass is not kept spotless ,
I like the wings and the extra large hoods like king cobras or raptors ,
So long as the light is focused and contained to the grow area you will get good results .
All bulbs no matter how expensive or how good you think they are and you paid a shit pile for a bulb,
They all lose lumens as soon as you plug them in.
You can purchase several new cheap Chinese bulbs for what one eye hortilux costs, so just use a cheap bulb and change it every single run .
They ate anly around 20 dollars , or a couple of grams of increased production if you want to look at it like that

max420thc said:

The ajusta shades as you call then we call them bat wings , but they are actually a very good light reflecting material and you can aim the beam , I know they are hot, but I like a exposed bulb, the glass of hoods cuts down on the lumens output of the bulb, a lot of the glass is not kept spotless ,
I like the wings and the extra large hoods like king cobras or raptors ,
So long as the light is focused and contained to the grow area you will get good results .
All bulbs no matter how expensive or how good you think they are and you paid a shit pile for a bulb,
They all lose lumens as soon as you plug them in.
You can purchase several new cheap Chinese bulbs for what one eye hortilux costs, so just use a cheap bulb and change it every single run .
They ate anly around 20 dollars , or a couple of grams of increased production if you want to look at it like that

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ahaha man that's exactly how I've felt. I've run aircooled before, and I felt it definitely reduced intensity compared to bare bulbs.
So I went back to bare bulbs. Thing is I have a 5kw split AC and want to run around 3-4kw of light, this is no worries except in summer. So, it's really only summer where I'd need the cooled hoods, I wouldn't want to run them when I didn't have to.

ahaha you got me rethinking everything... which I love cause that's how I learn. I think I may forget the aircooleds (I still have my old hoods in storage actually just remembered) and just run less watts during summer.

yeah, I have some pricey bulbs. I'm a little nervous to go too cheap as chips but I definitely already concluded what you say... new cheaper bulb > worn expensive bulb

Okay, so some defoliating human-on-plant violence went down at my crib. It was messy.
The above previously posted photo is the before...


...this is halfway through, the ones on the right are eyeing off the skeletons on the left and shaking in their coco.


Finished group... looking sparse... poor things, I'm a monster.

Now for single plant shots of the carnage.

This little lady before the blood ran in the streets:


The little lady afterwards, feeling very exposed and getting inspected by the head dawg in charge:



I didn't trim any unnecessary shoots yet, just leaves, will leave the surplus shoots on to get bigger and then will take a bunch of cuts from the group.

Killin it bro I just pulled 240 grams dry off 5 plants... still got a big sucker to go, good yield for small plants... that peyote critical looks banging, I’m bout to do a gsc and Bruce banner grow....

Bongsmoke420 said:

Killin it bro I just pulled 240 grams dry off 5 plants... still got a big sucker to go, good yield for small plants... that peyote critical looks banging, I’m bout to do a gsc and Bruce banner grow....

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Thanks for droppin in, mate.
That looks the goods, great job.
What stain is that?

GSC & Bruce Banner, two great choices that are on my long list. I've never had any cookies of any type, definitely on the must run soonish list. And the Banner is supposed to be supremely potent eh? You going to pollenchuck between the two? Create Bruce's Biscuits?

Lookn great man. I've run critical + before. Super fruity massive yielding plant in a 5gal smartpot. One 600 watt hps. Pulled 163 dry grams. Just under 6 zips.

If you are going to upgrade lighting at some point. You may look into leds. Cobs or strips. Both have come along way. And produce some seriously frosty weight. Once dialed in.

OzDankDizzle said:

Thanks for droppin in, mate.
That looks the goods, great job.
What stain is that?

GSC & Bruce Banner, two great choices that are on my long list. I've never had any cookies of any type, definitely on the must run soonish list. And the Banner is supposed to be supremely potent eh? You going to pollenchuck between the two? Create Bruce's Biscuits?

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Not sure on that strain my mate gave me some clones it smells like lemon meringue pie lol nice smoke very resiny.... yeah well it’s in veg and it stinks way crazier then all my other veg plants and the nodes are like 15 mm apart looks the goods... unfortunately all I got was females when I popped my seeds so just focusing on the frost... hahaha Bruce’s biscuits sound yum

whytewidow said:

Lookn great man. I've run critical + before. Super fruity massive yielding plant in a 5gal smartpot. One 600 watt hps. Pulled 163 dry grams. Just under 6 zips.

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whytewidow said:

If you are going to upgrade lighting at some point. You may look into leds. Cobs or strips. Both have come along way. And produce some seriously frosty weight. Once dialed in.

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Thanks, mate. Nice haul on the Critical+, it definitely is a chunky gal.

Damn skippy you're right the leds and stuff have come a long long way since I previously had looked at them. I think I will be moving to LEDs completely for mothers & propagation very soon. Might try a flower round with them in my little tent.

Bongsmoke420 said:

Not sure on that strain my mate gave me some clones it smells like lemon meringue pie lol nice smoke very resiny.... yeah well it’s in veg and it stinks way crazier then all my other veg plants and the nodes are like 15 mm apart looks the goods... unfortunately all I got was females when I popped my seeds so just focusing on the frost... hahaha Bruce’s biscuits sound yum

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Oh lemon, I like lemony terps. Sounds nice. I've never actually pollenchucked before but will be next seed run so that'll be interesting.
haha if you ever make 'Bruce Biscuits' you owe me a few dozen seeds for the name.

Picked up some GPS Copper Chem from the reverse auctions for $48 so I am super stoked about that, been wanting that one for a while. With it's lineage it's gotta be fire medicine and great stock to pollenchuck from also.

Whelp, just grabbed Eagle Scout (GSC x Stardawg) on the reverse auction for $28... couldn't help myself for that price.
Those are some nice genetics for that money, geez, hard to beat.
It will be my first cookies strain of any sort.