Ambiens and Ambien CR

Ok so i was snooping threw my parents medicine cabnet, when i stummbled accross some ambiens i took about 2 of them not thinking it would be that bad ... but less than 5 mins later it started kicking in and everything looked like it was made of water, the walls and floor were waving and shit like the ocean . then i called one of my buddies up and he came over and he took some. It was night time and we went out to play basketball. I shot the balll and missed and it went into the darkness. I ran over to were i thought it was at and looked for it when i saw a fuckin chicken! i looked harder and it turned out to be the basket ball! i was screaming and shit. it makes you see shit. bad.

anyone else try these things? They arr pretty sweet.

yes i have. prior to taking them...hide car keys.

you hear shadows talk yet?

im takin' 3 right now, i want to see elvis

andy are ya trippin on elvis

are ya havin' fun?

Yeah I have a prescritpion for ambiens. Not the CR kind though, I experience every thing you've said. The walls waving, I even feel like I'm moving at times. I once saw an owl in the corner of my eye while playing counter-strike.

Be careful, at high doses they can cause an amnesia like state. You wont remember what you did until you see the damage. Then you will remember bits and pieces of what happened. Taking 3 will make you forget all about the night before.

im taking them even more i love these things...the waves and stuff are pretty trippy, its weird though that for sleep medicine it dosnt make me sleepy or any thing. I havnt tripped out as bad as that first time though by the way what sizes were you guys taking you guys taking? im taking 10s.

AMBIEN? Geez I would have never known...Its a sleep med correct?

yea its sleep med . i just took some right like 5 mins ago. I took 2 of them and im really fxxxxxd up right now. im like seriously fxxxxd up. i cant find the keys to the keyboard so i can type this message. Jesus christ this shit is like another world. every thing is calm.like im very happy and like nothings gonna happen kind of feeling. oh my god if you havnt takiin it yet try it. you wont bee happy if u dont. because its like happiness the only way i can describe this im feeling now, im hearing voices but just a little bit i can barely see what im typing

I used to have a prescription for them way, way back. Chronic insomnia. They do indeed knock you out, but you have to follow the directions. Lay down, and close your eyes. I accidentally stayed up one night and found out they have quite a different effect when that happens. If you miss the window to sleep, you won't be able to get to sleep for a long while... It will leave you wired.

The way I would describe it is like a waking dream. Like sleepwalking, while dreaming, and being conscious. It's quite unusual. Think Donnie Darko. I definately had visuals (like walls waving, and everything seemingly blowing in an invisible wind). I don't recall if I ever had visuals quite like you described. Then again, I don't think I ever took that many at one time. From what you describe, it sounds like an anticholegenic agent (Dramanol, etc), or even vaguely like atropine. Without all of the wickedness that are inherent in those things.

Just be careful. Ambien is much more addictive than you'd think, especially if you're not using it as directed.

~Ethno

Ambien and weed is one of my fav combos. I love them together! The weed makes you not feel the tiredness from the ambien and you can just ride the waves. Awesome.

I'm not sure if I know what you mean, Videoman. Did I miss someone claiming they were? I'm confused.

Or did you mean that they're not addictive? Because I'm pretty sure those little buggers are definately habit-forming.

~Ethno

Yes Ethnobotanist, my point is that some posters here are claiming that ambien got them high, and that they are seeing things.....it aint gonna happen. Never.

It'll make you tired is all. If any of the posters saw shit, they moist likely see crap all the time, and after taking ambien they see things while being tired is all.

While ambien can be habit forming, it is non-narcotic, meaning there is absolutely nothing in it that can get you high.
Peace

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Ethnobotanist said:

I'm not sure if I know what you mean, Videoman. Did I miss someone claiming they were? I'm confused.

Or did you mean that they're not addictive? Because I'm pretty sure those little buggers are definately habit-forming.

~Ethno

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I'm afraid I kind of have to disagree. Ambien isn't like other hypnotics, and it acts marginally like benzodiazepenes, acting on the GABA-BZ receptors in the brain.

Usually, it will just knock you out. If you intentionally fight to stay conscious however, it does have the effects people are talking about. Like I said before, I would compare the effects to deleriants like diphenhydramine (benadryl) or dimenhydrinate (dramamine), which drastically alters a persons perception of reality at higher levels. I'd suggest you look here: http://erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Pharms_Zolpidem.shtml , and see the evidence. I also speak from personal experience, and I can assure you, I don't see things in my everyday life.

Nobody seems to have any idea what the mechanism is that actually produces these altered states. By all reason, like you said, it shouldn't, according to the pharmacological properties of Ambien (as least what we know of them). It hasn't been looked into that deeply, primarily because pharmaceutical companies don't want anyone too, as it would compromise how easily they are able to dispense the drug. But several medical professionals have noted it in literature, and there has even been media coverage talking about it; because of the anterograde amnesia effect of Ambien, however, it's usually attributed simply to "sleep-walking", and when taking larger doses, people do tend to black much more of the experience out. But the person never actually falls asleep, and can interact completely with their environment. They've even started research utilizing this altered state, because it seems to have the peculiar effect of waking people from permanent vegetative states, to the point where the subject is able to carry on a conversation, but then returns to their vegetative state once the effects wear off.

I'd advise you to read the experience reports, look at the media coverage, etcetera. It does indeed have the effects people are talking about. As I said before, it's not even remotely understood why it does this. Then again, the visual effects of LSD-25 are not medically understood at all, either.

~Ethno

Ethnobotanist, that was a nice response. Thanks. You are welcome to your opinion, no arguments from me, other than we will disagree on this one.
I take Ambien. Regularly. I am only speaking from my experiences with it.

I have to wonder if these people are having a placebo effect?
To me, non-narcotic, is just that.
I've never experienced anything like what was said here previously, nor has my wife.
Peace

For all I know, it may only affect people with a particular brian chemistry. As I said, there have been little to no studies done on this, but it seems to be much more than anecdotal reports.

My father actually worked for Searle (which was bought by Pfizer), and they produced Ambien. After this experience happened to me, in my teens mind you, he actually told me that these experiences have been widely reported, but they aren't common. And that they were more or less instructed not to talk about it or discuss it with doctors. So I'm quite sure there's something happening here. It might require a higher dose for some who have a tolerance or are resistant to the effects, or it might be that some individuals simply are not effected in this way. As I said, I'm not a pharmacologist, so I don't know. But it's definately more than placebo. If you're actually interested in whether it can affect you, experiment with it (maybe increasing your regular dosage), and stay awake. It's not going to hurt you, regardless. You'll wake up feeling like a million bucks so long as you don't take an excess amount.

I'd really like to see more research done on this, to be honest. It was definately an "interesting" experience, but one that I never repeated because of how innately strange it was.

~Ethno

ok i think i was getting addicted to them so i havnt touched 1 in 3 weeks. I was starting to take more and more up to 3 every 2 days. That struck me as being addicted so i stoped cold turkey. No question they are addicting and the effects are pretty f-ing sweet. but the addiction part is worrisome or however you spell it hah

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ok i think i was getting addicted to them so i havnt touched 1 in 3 weeks. I was starting to take more and more up to 3 every 2 days. That struck me as being addicted so i stoped cold turkey. No question they are addicting and the effects are pretty f-ing sweet. but the addiction part is worrisome or however you spell it hah

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Indeed, my friend. More than one taken when needed, as prescribed, is addiction. And once you discover they do more than knock you out, the impetus to take more is even more alluring. Definately habit-forming, even if they don't hook you immediately like other sleep aides. Although phamaceutical companies argue this makes it safer, I think it might even make it more dangerous. As in you feel in control, and then they control you. They make it sound like people CAN'T become addicted it, when the exact opposite is true. I think they're towing the line here, in a major way.

~Ethno