Am I supposed to have peroxide in my DWC?can i add more nutrients yet? First DWC

Nuikala

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Hey guys. Another post again on my First DWC. I am using 17L of water in 5 gallon bucket. Plant has 4 sets of leaves. Growing slower than i thought it would, my soil plants are growing faster. The DWC plant looks a little light green colour to me and the leaves are canoeing a bit. I used 2ML/L of PH Perfect Grow, can i add more nutrients yet, or should I? I also have general Organics nutrient lineup to. My water temps are slightly high i think at 80 degrees. under 600W MH. cant really do much to lower the temps rite now tho. Nutrients are PH Perfect Sensi Grow, and i added some General Organics CalMag to it in a very light dose.
Question is should i have peroxide in the water? Can I do a water change and up the nutrients to say 3ml/L of PH Perfect Sensi Grow, or can i just add a bit of GenOrg BioThrive Grow? Should i go get another AN product to go with the base nutrients?
Thanx for the help....:joint:
Oh the plant in DWC is a Chocolope Kush from DNA
 
You do have an air stone in your bucket right? There are 2 options to help your roots. 1 is H2O2, which adds oxygen to you water and kills bad bacteria. Another is to go biological using AquaSheild or Bio Zeus, both which add beneficial bacteria to your root system, but chlorinated water, or H2O2 will kill them. Your water temp definitely is an issue, as it reduces the amount of oxygen in the water ,and creates a situation where bad shit can develop. I would airstone the shit out of the bucket, and use H2O2 to get as much oxygen as possible to the roots. 3 ml per gallon at change, and 1.5 every other day until you change again, which is weekly I hope. Use as high a concentrate of Peroxide as you can, and don't forget 5.8 PH. Good luck
 
i have 2 6 inch airstone in it on a double air pump. i never thought of putting ice bottles in the water, i can do that lol.
What does the peroxide do?
 
Temperature is your biggest problem, but I also had issues when adding cal mag to my AN Sensi Grow. It made my pH drop steadily every few hours. I only use sensi grow a + b and have had no issues, but my water temps are never above 70 and usually closer to 65. I also use h2o2
 
To keep your roots white and crisp, you need to keep water temp under 70* and use h2o2 or bennies (beneficial microbes). The h2o2 sterilizes like bleach by killing pathogens (and other microbial life... for this reason you can't use h2o2 with bennies). The bennies keep pathogens under control by out-competing them (and they provide other benefits as well).

Both work for prevention, but h2o2 will most likely fail against high temps (mid 70s) or already established root rot. Some people like Heisenberg claim h2o2 even slows down root growth in clones. For this reason, I prefer bennies. Some simple/cheap options are Botanicare Aquashield or Pond-Zyme (from PetCo or Petsmart). With one of those options, the cost and effort of using bennies vs h2o2 is about the same either way. There is also Heisenberg Tea if you want to get fancy. If you go with sterilizers... instead of h2o2, a lot of people use Zone by Dutch Master. People also use bleach or Pool Shock chlorine.

The nutes you are using contain organics which could trigger slime blooms in your res unless you use bennies. Also, you need bennies to convert the organic compounds into usable nutes. If you were to use h2o2, the microbial life would be dead, and nothing would be converting the organic part of your nutes for the plant. I would go with Dyna-Gro until you get the hang of things. It's cheap, ph stable, non-organic, complete with all micro nutes, time-tested and proven in the agricultural industry, and simple 1-part Grow bottle for veg, Bloom for flower. Most people add Pro-Tekt during veg (silica for hardening branches, heat and drought resistance, etc) and Cal/Mag.

General Hydroponics Flora 3-part series is another popular choice for DWC with many of the same postives as Dyna-Gro. A lot of people use the Lucas Formula which is a cheap, simple, and effective feeding schedule using the Flora series. Stay away from FloraNova, it contains organic material which could fuck with your roots until you get things under control.

For your temps, assuming you are using 5 gallon buckets... wrap them in 3 layers of reflectix from home depot or lowes. They will be insulated AND 100% light proof which is crucial in DWC. I have tried coleman/rubbermaid coolers and buckets wrapped in reflectix, and the reflectix works better for me. You should be able to use 1L bottle of ice every 24 hours and stay well under 70* assuming 'reasonable' ambient temps.

If you want to learn more about the roots and DWC... check out the sticky thread breeding beneficial microbes and just skim through it and only read Heisenberg's posts (because it is sooo long)... the thread is a fuckin gold mine.
 
i have 2 6 inch airstone in it on a double air pump. i never thought of putting ice bottles in the water, i can do that lol.
What does the peroxide do?

Hello Nuikala...

In the summer time my tent has been above 80 degrees in the afternoons with night times at 65 to 70 and I use a product called "ACTINOVATE" it's a bacteria. And I have been using the GH 3 part with good success. I don't use peroxide unless I have problems....Anyway I thought I would share what I do...The year round temps are pretty mild where I live so I only have a few days out of the summer where my tent will be above or around 80 degrees..Good luck on your grow.......nitro..
 
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