Am I rootbound?

Sirdankz

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Not a chance. Is there a light with these? Are you checking pH of your feeds?
I'm using a 300 watt hps sometimes at 600hps depending on temps. And I haven't checked ph. I'm currently in a 1 1/2 gallon with these should I transplant to a 5 gallon? Or should I get a ph meter first?
 

gjs4786

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I'm using a 300 watt hps sometimes at 600hps depending on temps. And I haven't checked ph. I'm currently in a 1 1/2 gallon with these should I transplant to a 5 gallon? Or should I get a ph meter first?
My opinion: pH Meter. This is not a root-bound plant. This is a plant that looks like it has major pH issues. So you're going to need to transplant to better soil, if it isn't the water, not bigger container. What brand soil are you using? What source of water? Well? City? Bottled?

Edit: Also, are you fertilizing? if so, with what, and how often, and how much per time?
 

Sirdankz

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My opinion: pH Meter. This is not a root-bound plant. This is a plant that looks like it has major pH issues. So you're going to need to transplant to better soil, if it isn't the water, not bigger container. What brand soil are you using? What source of water? Well? City? Bottled?

Edit: Also, are you fertilizing? if so, with what, and how often, and how much per time?
ROOT FARMS Coco coir/bottled Water. I've been using bat guano, wormcastings, kelp meal, and bone meal mixed in water to feed.
 

gjs4786

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ROOT FARMS Coco coir/bottled Water. I've been using bat guano, wormcastings, kelp meal, and bone meal mixed in water to feed.
You can't do that. that has to be prepared in soil and left to compost first. You need to buy some chemical fertilizers NOW if you want those plants to live,. Your nutrients drain right through the coco. You are giving your plants only whats in the water as nutrients. The other stuff doesn't break down and is just running through. Why the heck did you start with coco if you don't know how to properly feed them? Soil is much more forgiving.
 

gjs4786

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You can't do that. that has to be prepared in soil and left to compost first. You need to buy some chemical fertilizers NOW if you want those plants to live,. Your nutrients drain right through the coco. You are giving your plants only whats in the water as nutrients. The other stuff doesn't break down and is just running through. Why the heck did you start with coco if you don't know how to properly feed them? Soil is much more forgiving.
Let me further elaborate and say soil is actually not more forgiving, but it does have stored nutrients. Coco, on the other hand, you can water all day, so long as nutrients are in that feed. they're happy. Easy. That's why I'll be switching to coco very, very soon. Later
 

Sirdankz

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You can't do that. that has to be prepared in soil and left to compost first. You need to buy some chemical fertilizers NOW if you want those plants to live,. Your nutrients drain right through the coco. You are giving your plants only whats in the water as nutrients. The other stuff doesn't break down and is just running through. Why the heck did you start with coco if you don't know how to properly feed them? Soil is much more forgiving.
I was using miracle grow at first but those plants turned Male and read alot about how bad miracle grow is so I went and bought coco coir. I already have flora grow nutes arriving this Saturday. So I should just completely switch to flora grow nutes?
 

gjs4786

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I was using miracle grow at first but those plants turned Male and read alot about how bad miracle grow is so I went and bought coco coir. I already have flora grow nutes arriving this Saturday. So I should just completely switch to flora grow nutes?
YES. Get a pH pen too. But your plant has simply been getting no nutrients. Like in Nacho Libre. They don't get no nutrientzzz.

I'd water daily till run off at 8th strength for 2 days, then 1/4 for the next 2 days. Then just read your plant from there. Personally, I'd call the plant a loss. But, you can try to save it. They do rebound quite readily. Just watch for he and she organs due to the stress.
 

Sirdankz

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YES. Get a pH pen too. But your plant has simply been getting no nutrients. Like in Nacho Libre. They don't get no nutrientzzz.

I'd water daily till run off at 8th strength for 2 days, then 1/4 for the next 2 days. Then just read your plant from there. Personally, I'd call the plant a loss. But, you can try to save it. They do rebound quite readily. Just watch for he and she organs due to the stress.
Okay and I got this ph liquid test. Am I testing right? Should I mix the drops that settled on top of the solution? And if the plant is a loss should I just try to save it and if it doesn't go good just cut and dry then blast for bho?
 

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gjs4786

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Okay and I got this ph liquid test. Am I testing right? Should I mix the drops that settled on top of the solution? And if the plant is a loss should I just try to save it and if it doesn't go good just cut and dry then blast for bho?
I suggest you read up on it, man. The people of this forum are here to discuss, but not be your personal plant doctor. You have to figure out plant needs for yourself, or you will never get very far. Questions are great. But unique questions. There are literally thousands of pages you have access to right now via the web, that would answer your question.

Edit: No, don't test the stuff on top. test the runoff. What comes out of the bottom. If it's in he 5's and 8's, you have a prob. I don't are what anyone says about runoff pH. It's a good way to gauge your soils adjustment, meaning, is your soil set to buffer the pH at 6.5, 5.5, or 4.5? Edit again: But you have told you use coco. That needs soluble chemical nutrients. But seems like you are trying to go organic. You can't go organic just by mixing it in the water. It needs to be processed by beneficial life first. Chemical ferts skip this step.
 

hotrodharley

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I'm using a 300 watt hps sometimes at 600hps depending on temps. And I haven't checked ph. I'm currently in a 1 1/2 gallon with these should I transplant to a 5 gallon? Or should I get a ph meter first?
I use cheap reliable litmus paper. Meters are a pain. Transplant and top.
 

gjs4786

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I use cheap reliable litmus paper. Meters are a pain. Transplant and top.
Err, don't transplant coco to coco. And don't top either. Just start putting fertilizer into your water every day. And keep it around the same temp as your medium.. Else you'll shock the roots and the plant.

Edit: hotrod has a lot more experience than I do, but I don't think hotrod understands that this is coco with no soluble fert
 
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gjs4786

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Just get a 14 dollar pH meter that has good reviews. People come back and change their reviews. They're so cheap, I plan on buying another one of the same one I got for 13 bucks after 2nd indoor grow. It doesn't falter.
 
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