am i missing anything?

no need to get snippy there bossman. I just moved to this location and my old regimen didnt do it. i never had to adjust anything at my last house. i got it all dialed in and just ran it. when i came here the PH kept coming out near 8, 7.7 was the lowest reading i got. i then busted out the PH down and for the life of me IDK why it was kicking my ass. i kept either putting too much or too little or not waiting long enough to take my reading or whatever. i was still managing to get my PH right but the plants still werent greening up. brown damage was starting to kick in on a few of them.

im the first person to tell you that the advanced idea is kinda retarded. you can get great results other ways. for whatever reason you want to truly dial in your strain and be able to give the plant exacting amounts of almost every nutrient individually then go nuts. but like i said i was just after the PH perfect. i had to give it a go.

i was almost out of hygrozyme at the time as well so i checked out to see if sensizyme had the ph perfect goodies and how much it was. $0.20 cheaper then hygrozyme(lol) and it did have the ph perfect according to its label so i picked up a bottle of that too.

since I've added in the conn the only issue ive had is a couple where still showing a bit of yellowing and spotting. i dialed back the conn and added in the dynagro and all was well til about week 5. thats when the magpro came in and everything greened right back up. i cant argue with results. PH is always around 6. thats a happy day for me. for the plants too!

i forgot to mention im running all different seed plants as well. 19 strains in total and a couple a piece of a couple of the strains. i needed a semi modular set up without coming out of pocket for the whole advanced run.

ideally i woulda been running TLO for them but i didnt have everything set up yet. this most recent set of clones went into good ole soil mix and will live on Tea for the remainder of their lives as will prolly everything else i run. il prolly still run a few hempys in a scrog tho too. i just like hempy idk why. kinda fills the hydro hole without all the doohickeys!

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These ladies been on that formula for about a week. 3 waterings of it so far.

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il get some pics of the other ladies when the lights swap out. (bout an hour) they actually have buds. theyve only been getting the dynagro bloom for about half of their life. i brought that in to help with some micro deficiency issues.

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Looking pro HGK. Ladies in perfect health. You're going to love the LOS runs, I've never had so little to do in my garden and it's just kicking, I can almost hear them grow. The switch over is a very cool time. I also want to do a few hempy buckets, I have tons of leftover nutes that are going to just go to waste and I've never tried them. Also missing some hydro need to 'stop the gap' as you say.

HomeyBrew if the man sees a good change with ph perfect why the hate.? He is reading his plants like you too. Notice how after advanced chelates everything, the rest of these companies follow? It is not the same as chelating iron from what i have read. His nugs look great.

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Look legit man. Would like to roast some of that.

BROBIE said:

HomeyBrew if the man sees a good change with ph perfect why the hate.? He is reading his plants like you too. Notice how after advanced chelates everything, the rest of these companies follow? It is not the same as chelating iron from what i have read. His nugs look great.

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Any experienced grower can see the redundancy in his 'recipe' so it's not that I am 'hating on' any one product he's using, I'm 'hating-on' his whole mixture. BUT his flowers look good so if he doesn't mind mixing stuff up and keep all those products around, more power to him. I will say this though; I once thought 'complicated' was the way to grow and it took years of trial-and-error to finally see that simplicity is key. I'd put one bottle of floranova grow up against his recipe any day.

it's not the complexity of the recipe that make a recipe work more than another but it's effectiveness and i agree with homebrewer that hgk420 recipe lack of effectiveness for obv reason. lot bottle is not a problem if u know how each work, when to apply them and at which strenght... in soil I would say , less bottle you need , better your recipe is but it's totally different in hydro/aero. I am using 9 different product for my grow(im in hydro) and every product has a different action but i could use less bottle at higher cost...

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Any experienced grower can see the redundancy in his 'recipe' so it's not that I am 'hating on' any one product he's using, I'm 'hating-on' his whole mixture. BUT his flowers look good so if he doesn't mind mixing stuff up and keep all those products around, more power to him. I will say this though; I once thought 'complicated' was the way to grow and it took years of trial-and-error to finally see that simplicity is key. I'd put one bottle of floranova grow up against his recipe any day.

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floranova looks very good on label but it's hell when it comes to mixing.

the redundancy is the entire reason i do it the way i do. i rarely get over 800ppm and get some monsters. 2 plants like it around 950.

take a look at the ingredients in GO bloom http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/prod_labels/BioThriveBloom.pdf

now check out the MSDS on dyna gro bloom http://www.dyna-gro.com/Website pdf Files/MSDS Grow-Bloom-Pro Series.pdf

Advanced Conn is about the same make up as Dyna gro bloom except its got a nice fat dose of K and its got the PH perfect goodies. (and its missing a shit ton of other stuff. im just saying dyna gro is derived from some of the same things.)

im providing multiple sources of different macro and micro nutes. i get further with less.

The GO bloom like i said is alot more then just a bloom enhancer. its got aminos and micros and all kinds of good stuff. its even got an organic catalyst built in so i get can my zyme and greatwhite literally fizzing before i water.

Its definitely a bit more complicated then some of the ways ive done it in the past but its also alot easier then MOST of the ways ive tried. the results im having so far are head and shoulders above my last few runs so i cant complain too much.

and dont forget folks this thread was started to ask what i am missing. NOT what i have too much of. i understand the reasoning behind why i do what i do and if you cannot then i apologize for not being able to break it down easier for you.

again i ask, can anyone see anything im overlooking?

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it's not the complexity of the recipe that make a recipe work more than another but it's effectiveness and i agree with homebrewer that hgk420 recipe lack of effectiveness for obv reason. lot bottle is not a problem if u know how each work, when to apply them and at which strenght... in soil I would say , less bottle you need , better your recipe is but it's totally different in hydro/aero. I am using 9 different product for my grow(im in hydro) and every product has a different action but i could use less bottle at higher cost...

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even tho im in containers im not soil gardening. its called passive hydroponics. drain to waste without a pump. my TLO plants are considered soil growing.

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floranova looks very good on label but it's hell when it comes to mixing.

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Too thick to use a ml dropper with?

yea too thick , u need to shake the bottle like 10-15 min like a machine. if you let sit down too long, you'll need to scratch the bottom -.- ! lot of deposit in res most of time.... I was making my mix in a gallon with hot water before throw in res. it's very complicated to use .... but still good ...maxi series>flora bloom>flora nova IMO.

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yea too thick , u need to shake the bottle like 10-15 min like a machine. if you let sit down too long, you'll need to scratch the bottom -.- ! lot of deposit in res most of time.... I was making my mix in a gallon with hot water before throw in res. it's very complicated to use .... but still good ...maxi series>flora bloom>flora nova IMO.

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I wonder if it would help to dilute it; perhaps mixing 1:1 with RO water and storing in a different container. You'd need to use twice as much as normal to compensate but that may work.

Maxi is another simple one people forget about.

I say if its working for you, you enjoy it , and it produces then thats all you can ask for. I dont think you could possibly be missing anything, you have obviously put a lot of thought in it, you have a mix that you can legitimately say is your custom mix, and I wouldnt change a thing. Makes a guy feel nice to put a bunch of stuff together that wasnt meant to go together and get it to work, thats the fun in a hobby, hobbys werent meant to be boring and if they are, find a new hobby.

hell ya, if it all comes out positive then for sure it feels great. also feels worse when it goes bad. all your fault lol. il get a few whole plant pics tonight to showoff the stackedness of the girls. they really seem to be doing good. im still semi new to this, only a couple years under my belt so i just assumed i must of overlooked something. at first i thought i doubled up the molybdenum but i didnt. the dyna and GO make a full dose of it if you half both of them.

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Any experienced grower can see the redundancy in his 'recipe' so it's not that I am 'hating on' any one product he's using, I'm 'hating-on' his whole mixture. BUT his flowers look good so if he doesn't mind mixing stuff up and keep all those products around, more power to him. I will say this though; I once thought 'complicated' was the way to grow and it took years of trial-and-error to finally see that simplicity is key. I'd put one bottle of floranova grow up against his recipe any day.

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I don't know , your first post was e-sarcastic and your later posts on ph perfect seemed a bit disparaging and gave the insinuation that HGK420 is all noob or something when it's obvious he's very intelligent with outstanding observational skills. Look at his nugs. Comments like "any experienced grower" comes off condescending IMO . It just seems that if someone grows a bit off your philosophy you get all Debbie Downer. Maybe it's just me , my reading comprehension may be off a bit. I know you have your ways and they work great. Kudos.

I think he has his recipe like it is because he is having a blast doing this shit and is keyed in pretty well. It's like golf, it ain't a game if you're not having fun. Now if he's a commercial grower, that would be another story.

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I don't know , your first post was e-sarcastic and your later posts on ph perfect seemed a bit disparaging and gave the insinuation that HGK420 is all noob or something when it's obvious he's very intelligent with outstanding observational skills. Look at his nugs. Comments like "any experienced grower" comes off condescending IMO . It just seems that if someone grows a bit off your philosophy you get all Debbie Downer. Maybe it's just me , my reading comprehension may be off a bit. I know you have your ways and they work great. Kudos.

I think he has his recipe like it is because he is having a blast doing this shit and is keyed in pretty well. It's like golf, it ain't a game if you're not having fun. Now if he's a commercial grower, that would be another story.

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definitely small scale, inefficient, popping too many seeds cause its a blast, grow room. my patients love variety too. i wouldnt even know how to do a commercial run!

i just knew i was gonna be moving so i planted this batch in inert medium and planned on running my trusty dusty recipe(just didnt want any issues) but it fell flat big time for some reason. i had most of these ingredients already i just had to pick up the advance and magpro. i think once i lock down all my mothers il do some tests in hempy and see how it stacks up just for shits and giggles.

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definitely small scale, inefficient, popping too many seeds cause its a blast, grow room. my patients love variety too. i wouldnt even know how to do a commercial run!

i just knew i was gonna be moving so i planted this batch in inert medium and planned on running my trusty dusty recipe(just didnt want any issues) but it fell flat big time for some reason. i had most of these ingredients already i just had to pick up the advance and magpro. i think once i lock down all my mothers il do some tests in hempy and see how it stacks up just for shits and giggles.

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Homebrew has some good points and maybe scale back in selected areas with your next test. I did the same thing and noticed that some of these products do help just a bit in volume but you really run the hazard of a meltdown sometimes. But if you have a handle on it, read your plants like you know how to do obviously , and just keep enjoying your grows, you will do fine!!. Show us some more Bud porn when you get a chance.

I dont think HB was trying to be a dick, think he was just trying to say theres an easier way and hes right, there is, but theres nothin wrong with trying to make a new soup, might turn out to be the next big thing, who knows