Alternative to pH Up

shimz said:

Easy bud. Although AN products are roundly panned due to all the things you mentioned, their pH products are actually decent bottled solutions that come out cheaper due to their high concentration. Not better, just cheaper.

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But I can buy the same potassium hydroxide at the same concentration for half the price. That's what AN uses and marks way up. You're adjusting pH. It's not complicated. There is no reason to pay AN prices for re-packaged potassium hydroxide.

$21.95 a gallon

Agreed, bulk pH adjusters work just fine.

xtsho said:

Overpriced watered down garbage marketed to people that drink the koolaid. .

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Hello kettle this is the pot, You're black.
A few things. First it sounds like you've drank the kool aid with your anti AN bullshit. The same cool aid all AN haters use. And no one is talking about their marketing practices. Multi bottle BS. We're talking about up/down. Try to stay on topic and take that shit somewhere else. I agree. You don't need multi bottles to grow. It's just marketing, yes. But again, we're talking about 2 bottles.
You clearly HAVEN'T used their up or down. Cause they are NOT the same as GH or any other such product, i've used. GH takes almost 3x the amount to gain the same results. So NO they are not the same!!! Maybe the same ingredient but it's more concentrated.

NeWcS said:

Hello kettle this is the pot, You're black.
A few things. First it sounds like you've drank the kool aid with your anti AN bullshit. The same cool aid all AN haters use. And no one is talking about their marketing practices. Multi bottle BS. We're talking about up/down. Try to stay on topic and take that shit somewhere else. I agree. You don't need multi bottles to grow. It's just marketing, yes. But again, we're talking about 2 bottles.
You clearly HAVEN'T used their up or down. Cause they are NOT the same as GH or any other such product, i've used. GH takes almost 3x the amount to gain the same results. So NO they are not the same!!! Maybe the same ingredient but it's more concentrated.

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I don't drink koolaid. I drink Gin, Bourbon, and Microbrew. And yes AN is nothing but marketing bullshit that includes their pH up which is no better or concentrated than the VitaGrow I posted for $21.95 a gallon. AN can burn in hell. Too many new growers screw their crops up by using their garbage.

I don't need to use their repackaged potassium hydroxide because it's no different than many other sources easily available. They buy it from the same chemical companies as everyone else. Same stuff. Get a clue.