Aloe FPJ (Fermented Plant Juice)

Used up the first small batch already. We have a lot of plants in this house; not just mj. Turned out so well that we are in the process of making another even larger batch and I have a another huge aloe that will also be turned to FPJ. These are plants I had on my windowsill for 3-4 years. They were getting so top heavy they were tipping over as soon as the soil got dry. They both ended up on the floor so I cut them at the base so their babies can grow. Started out long ago as a small single aloe; her offspring are still going.
All the plants are nice and perky after getting the FPJ; will continue giving it to them weekly. I was giving aact as well so I was waiting for them to get solely the FPJ for a few weeks before taking some new pics. I’ll share them here tho

Ok so after 3 doses of FPJ over the past 2 weeks my plants are super happy. One plant went from this...


To this..


Thank you JJames

Thanks for the inspiration.

We don't have Aloe but we've got loads of these growing in our garden.



Prickly Pear Cactus

I'm in the last month of bloom stage before harvest of my Southern hemisphere outdoor plants.

Going to harvest some fresh cactus this morning - while trying to avoid those pesky barbed hairs - and brew up a last healthy microbial feed for my girls.

J.James said:

The key to KNF style farming

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I had to look up that acronym.

What I found is worth sharing for others who may not have come across it before.


What keeps astounding me is that the 'most progressive approaches' always boil down to 'natural holistic common sense'.

I often feel that so much so much of what we consider to be 'new science' was naturally practised and intrinsically understood by our forefathers ... back when organic wasn't even a word yet since we hadn't even opened up the inorganic Pandora's box.

OSBuds said:

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I only watched the first 15 seconds, sorry. How is even a trained microbiologist supposed to determine which bacteria species they have in a medium with an optical microscope (even a super-duper expensive one)?

i took a stab at this stuff, with half nearly black bananas and half aloe. today is 8 days later, Theres visible white mold on the top, is this bad lol?

Fermenting aloe is a complete waste, you retain WAY more beneficial compounds using it fresh than by fermenting it.

Northwood said:

I only watched the first 15 seconds, sorry. How is even a trained microbiologist supposed to determine which bacteria species they have in a medium with an optical microscope (even a super-duper expensive one)?

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Yep this is why I have ended up steering away from this and also moved away from compost teas to compost extracts (as a lot of large scale organic producers have) you have no idea what you are breeding unfortunately.

madvillian420 said:

i took a stab at this stuff, with half nearly black bananas and half aloe. today is 8 days later, Theres visible white mold on the top, is this bad lol?

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You shouldn't ferment different fruits together Or mix them before ready to use (Chris Trump). It shouldn't mold if it's 50/50 by weight of brown sugar and fruit.

waterproof808 said:

Fermenting aloe is a complete waste, you retain WAY more beneficial compounds using it fresh than by fermenting it.

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how did you come to this conclusion? Would you say this applies to just aloe or everything else discussed here too?

madvillian420 said:

how did you come to this conclusion? Would you say this applies to just aloe or everything else discussed here too?

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Im referring to Aloe specifically. Aloe is a miraculous plant filled with dozens of beneficial enzymes, nutrients, salicylic and amino acids, saponins, etc. No amount of brown sugar is ever going to enhance or increase what is already inside of the aloe, just use it fresh.

waterproof808 said:

Im referring to Aloe specifically. Aloe is a miraculous plant filled with dozens of beneficial enzymes, nutrients, salicylic and amino acids, saponins, etc. No amount of brown sugar is ever going to enhance or increase what is already inside of the aloe, just use it fresh.

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I have a question about best types of aloe to use.

last summer I tried 1/2 a batch of clones using aloe gel in place of clonex. and went straight into a light soil mix instead of peat. I only got about a 60% success rate where I normally get 95% w clonex, but the roots I did get were super healthy.

I've only had small amounts of cuts this past year basically enough for me and whatever is left goes to friends. so I haven't wanted to risk the lower outcomes, but it's the last step in my grow cycle that isn't fully organic and I'd love to change that.

any tips you can suggest to increase the cloning rate? certain types of aloe better? should it be the fresh clear more solid chunky gel or the yellow slimy ooze? or do u blend it w water and use more as a soil drench?

I've been using the bas horticultural coconut powder bc it seems to have many of the same benefits and is a lot easier to just dump some into my watering can... but I can grow a million aloe plants for free and can probably take cuttings of 10 different cultivars walking 2 blocks down the street from neighbors front yards. just not sure what's the good stuff.

thanks for any advice

ilovereggae said:

I have a question about best types of aloe to use.

last summer I tried 1/2 a batch of clones using aloe gel in place of clonex. and went straight into a light soil mix instead of peat. I only got about a 60% success rate where I normally get 95% w clonex, but the roots I did get were super healthy.

I've only had small amounts of cuts this past year basically enough for me and whatever is left goes to friends. so I haven't wanted to risk the lower outcomes, but it's the last step in my grow cycle that isn't fully organic and I'd love to change that.

any tips you can suggest to increase the cloning rate? certain types of aloe better? should it be the fresh clear more solid chunky gel or the yellow slimy ooze? or do u blend it w water and use more as a soil drench?

I've been using the bas horticultural coconut powder bc it seems to have many of the same benefits and is a lot easier to just dump some into my watering can... but I can grow a million aloe plants for free and can probably take cuttings of 10 different cultivars walking 2 blocks down the street from neighbors front yards. just not sure what's the good stuff.

thanks for any advice

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Preferably you want the edible variety with yellow flowers like Richard drysift above photo, I guess most any will work. Aloe barbicans(or similar spelling) I believe, but not sure it matters.the yellow slime is latex and can be drained and rinsed prior to harvesting gel.

waterproof808 said:

Im referring to Aloe specifically. Aloe is a miraculous plant filled with dozens of beneficial enzymes, nutrients, salicylic and amino acids, saponins, etc. No amount of brown sugar is ever going to enhance or increase what is already inside of the aloe, just use it fresh.

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my aloe plants are getting too big for their cup containers, going to give them a haircut and blend the leaves to feed my plants. Got a ratio of aloe to water in mind?

meangreengrowinmachine said:

Oh weird I have never seen aloe flowers before!

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Mine flower all the time. 4 times each plant in 2021, I have 2 monsters and 17 pups that are getting bigger by the month.

If you do the aloe, and the calcium (egg shells) and add some coconut water.



Teas and coconuts for the win.

my hands are stained with humic...it is how i spot an organic grower. the cracks are humic brown

TaoRich said:

Thanks for the inspiration.

We don't have Aloe but we've got loads of these growing in our garden.

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Prickly Pear Cactus

I'm in the last month of bloom stage before harvest of my Southern hemisphere outdoor plants.

Going to harvest some fresh cactus this morning - while trying to avoid those pesky barbed hairs - and brew up a last healthy microbial feed for my girls.

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2022 Update

So I'm in flowering stage again, Southern Hemisphere, outdoor.

I made up another batch of the fermented prickly pear again.

This time, I also added some water poured through our kitchen waste compost drums, that drains out dark and opaque and nutrient rich.

To kick off fermentation, I added a few drops of a digestive fermentation bacteria mix from a mate's research strain: lactobacillus + bacillus subtilis + rhodoppseudomonas.

That brewed and fermented for 5 days - the mix was still very gelatinous from the cactus pulp.

I poured a diluted 500ml around the stems of each plant.

I have been doing some 'research reading' into Terpene production today, and apparently Amino Acids are an important contributing factor.

It turns out that both Aloe Vera and Prickly Pear is high in amino acids.

So that's another big plus for feeding cannabis during flower.

Result !


For scale, that is a 750ml beer bottle.



So that's
- Outdoor Grow (late planting due to a house move)
- Southern Hemisphere
- Living Soil ... All Organic ... All Scraps & Waste ... No Purchases
- Earthworm Castings
- Black Soldier Fly Frass
- Banana & Molasses Teas
and
- Fermented Prickly Pear Tea

Nice crowded budding sites with tight buds.

Harvested at first light.
Hanging now in my dry cupboard.