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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Define "worked out" please. I don't consider unjust means a solution. Taking from one party against their will to give to another seems less of a solution than a creation of a problem. In other words I find it difficult to legitimize theft.
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Go propose your utopia to your grandma
tell her medicare is theft and she should just do without
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Go propose your utopia to your grandma
tell her medicare is theft and she should just do without
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In my utopia, people don't take something from others and attempt to justify it by saying they bought something nice for grandma.

Here Grandma, I got you a new couch, I took it from the people across the street, they had two and shouldn't miss it anyway.
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
In my utopia, people don't take something from others and attempt to justify it by saying they bought something nice for grandma.

Here Grandma, I got you a new couch, I took it from the people across the street, they had two and shouldn't miss it anyway.
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So can you point to examples of your "society" working out?
 
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TroncoChe

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ChesusRice said:
care to expound on death rates
employee rights
and malnutrition?
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A utopia can never be reached. No one is perfect etc etc. We have the same problems now. CEO's make millions while they fuck everything up and pay everyone shit. Any problem you come up with is not a excuse to steal.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
So can you point to examples of your "society" working out?
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Certainly. First I'll clarify "my society" and one of the basic tenets I'd have.... No taking other people's shit, absent their consent, ie, no stealing.


Nearly all "civilized" and so called uncivilized societies recognize theft as a crime. Even the societies that perform theft thru their government and call it something else recognize theft as a crime. The problem is they don't want their serfs to recognize THEIR theft so they rename it and call it a tax.

Holding individuals responsible for their actions is always a good basis for any society no? That is what I'm advocating. Why wouldn't you want that in "your society" ?
 
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ChesusRice

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Rob Roy said:
Certainly. First I'll clarify "my society" and one of the basic tenets I'd have.... No taking other people's shit, absent their consent, ie, no stealing.


Nearly all "civilized" and so called uncivilized societies recognize theft as a crime. Even the societies that perform theft thru their government and call it something else recognize theft as a crime. The problem is they don't want their serfs to recognize THEIR theft so they rename it and call it a tax.

Holding individuals responsible for their actions is always a good basis for any society no? That is what I'm advocating. Why wouldn't you want that in "your society" ?
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But you have already said dozens of times taxation is theft
So how do you pay for police?
 
Murfy

Murfy

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it's not magic-

its called hill billy justice. where im from a smart talkin purty mouthed, city slicker like you'd do well to stick to the main roads.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Murfy said:
it's not magic-

its called hill billy justice. where im from a smart talkin purty mouthed, city slicker like you'd do well to stick to the main roads.
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i appreciate the admission of you being a three-toothed, sister fucking, backwoods hick, murfy.

not surprising considering the literacy level you display in your awkward attempts at forming sentences.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
But you have already said dozens of times taxation is theft
So how do you pay for police?
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Pay for police? Maybe the same way you pay other services. Contract with a private security company. How long do you think an inept or dishonest company would stay in business if this were the case?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Pay for police? Maybe the same way you pay other services. Contract with a private security company. How long do you think an inept or dishonest company would stay in business if this were the case?
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worked well for gene cranick.

 
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TroncoChe

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cannabineer said:
Who contracts this private security company, and funded how? Who watches the watchmen? cn
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The same people who pay for it now and the same way, have it taken from your check. If the service is no good, you don't pay. I use to work security after I got out the army. If people didn't like our service, they went with another company.
 
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