All Cree Led Plus WaterFarm With Attached Screen Grow(The Dawgie Dawg Style)

PetFlora

PetFlora

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Ed Rosenthal's Growers Handbook 2010, pg 148

Optimum pH Levels for MMJ:

Hydro 5.6- 6.3
Soil 5.8-6.5

pg 151 has the hydro pH range for various elements (on this page it says 'acceptable range is 5.6- 6.4, but optimum is 5.8-62

I need to raise mine a tad
 
puffenuff

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I think I'm the only person left who doesn't really care about ph numbers. I don't use a digital meter, just the good old fashioned ph test solution in a vile. I aim for a nice yellow-orange color for my coco, which falls in the 5-6 range. keeping it old school.
 
The Dawg

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PetFlora said:
Ambient, Rez temps and RH probably all play a roll
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Thats My Thinking Also Brother PetFlora.I Also Belive The Health Of Your Roots Plays A Major Roll Also.

Scotch089 said:
I tried to get online on my phone @ work last night to try and find one of those charts that shows the availablity of each nute at different levels... and got caught off guard by this:

""I follow and highly recommend the following parameters for hydroponic nutrient solutions for aeroponic, “bubblers”, drip, ebb and flow, NFT, passive, rockwool and wick systems.

PH 5.1-5.9 (5.2 optimal)
TDS 500-1000ppm, EC .75-1.5
Temperature 68-78f, 20-25c (75f, 24c optimal)

The pH of the nutrient solution is a major determinant of nutrient uptake by the plant. If the pH wanders outside the optimum range of between pH 5.1 and pH 5.9, then nutritional deficiency and/or toxicity problems can occur... For hydroponic nutrient solutions used with inert media, keep the pH at 5.2 for optimal elemental uptake... ""

Okay...

No.

This is not right, and never will be right, maybe the range is CLOSE ENOUGH that iyou wont get any lockouts from your more popular macro nutes- but 5.1 is not even in the soil range.

THIS WAS THE FIRST RESULT IN GOOGLE...on 420 MAGAZINE!!!!! Are you shittin' me???>

I have read SEVERAL paperback books stating 5.8-6.3, for any system of hydroponics

And several books have stated 5.5-6.5, for soil. (I cant confirm this one with exp.)

PLEASE malevolence, dawg, someone!! confirm or deny with me! Testify against these 420 wannabes!

I believe it was brother dawg who also told me that he noticed that Sativa/Sat dominant strains seem to enjoy a higher range- I cant seem to get my ph to hold, but I see this to be true when I CAN get it to stick to 6.3, even 6.5 for a while



EDIT: and this guy is BEING PRAISED!!! Pucking christ... and 2 posts. Good for you, dumbass.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/71819-what-ranges-should-i-maintain-my-hydroponic-nutrients-ph-tds-ec-temperature.html
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Brother Scotch That pH Range Might Work For His Style Of Growing.But As A Rule Of Thumb Those Numbers Are Very Low And When I Didnt Adjust My pH Up From 5.20ish on Sally G-13 P.E. And My G-13 Gigabud They Went Into An Amonia Dump Causing My pH To Drop To 2.50ish In A Few Hours.

Nizza said:
i currently am having the same issues with my hempy PH using dyna gro, they're all fine but id just love for it to be dialed in more.. i was talking with a friend who went to oaksterdam for a couple semesters and he uses veganic growing methods by one of the teachers there kyle kushman, I guess the whole thing about veganics is your only using organic, "plant soluble" nutrients(i think) meaning no bloodmeal or guano. This makes it so you don't have to pH. He uses some of the nutes from gen hydro with some other additives. I also like the true living organics thread by the rev., cool shit that you could just give your plants aloe and coconut water..
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Welcome Brother Nizza.Theirs Alot Of Neat Ways To Grow Our Beloved Plant.Im Currently Looking Into Aquaponics
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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puffenuff said:
I think I'm the only person left who doesn't really care about ph numbers. I don't use a digital meter, just the good old fashioned ph test solution in a vile. I aim for a nice yellow-orange color for my coco, which falls in the 5-6 range. keeping it old school.
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Nope Brother puffenuff I Know A Few Other Who Dont Brother To Check Their pH Either.I Didnt When I Grew Under My Cmh The Flora Nova Bloom Kept My pH In Range.However I Have Found Under My Leds I Have To Keep An Close Eye On It.

Chronikool said:
That makes 2 of us....just the 'worm meter' for me.... :)
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Damnit Brother I Forgot To Rep Ya Before I Hit The like Button.So I Will Rep Ya On Your NEXT Post.Thats A Very Kewl Way Of Of Checking Your pH.If The Worm Live All Is Well.If The Worm Dies Flush And Start Over With Fresh Worms
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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PetFlora said:
Ed Rosenthal's Growers Handbook 2010, pg 148

Optimum pH Levels for MMJ:

Hydro 5.6- 6.3
Soil 5.8-6.5

pg 151 has the hydro pH range for various elements (on this page it says 'acceptable range is 5.6- 6.4, but optimum is 5.8-62

I need to raise mine a tad
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Brother PetFlora Thats Some Great Information And A Great Starting Point.Just Listen To Your Ladies They Will Tell Ya What They Need
 
The Dawg

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Arnt My Ladies Cute And Their Starting To Stretch Their Wings Awaiting The Day I Turn My Leds On Which Will Be At The Start Of Week 2.Babs Ppm 310 pH 6.34 Res Temp 75 Temt Temp 81 Rh 51%Beckys ppm 289 pH 6.38 Res Temp 75 :weed:Week 1 Day 3 Of Veg 001 (800x533).jpgWeek 1 Day 3 Of Veg 002 (800x533).jpgWeek 1 Day 3 Of Veg 003 (800x533).jpgWeek 1 Day 3 Of Veg 004 (800x533).jpgWeek 1 Day 3 Of Veg 005 (533x800).jpgWeek 1 Day 3 Of Veg 006 (533x800).jpg
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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I religiously pH... lol

6.3-6.7 is what they get! :D

I like that worm idea, I will use it for my outdoor plants!
 
Chronikool

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The Dawg said:
Thats A Very Kewl Way Of Of Checking Your pH.If The Worm Live All Is Well.If The Worm Dies Flush And Start Over With Fresh Worms
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Hahaha yeah...sort of a accident...i try and sift through my worm castings to get the worms out....sometimes though there are baby worms in there (gonna happen) so that goes into my mix....next time i see them is at the bottom of my cups as i lift them to see if they need watering.....kind of tells me i need to water aswell....the 'multi worm'....

I have a bit of a confession....i dont know much about my pH..... :(
 
Chronikool

Chronikool

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Oh Dawg.....im looking at options of 'Bloom boosters' towards the mid-end of flowering....what do you use?
 
Scotch089

Scotch089

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The Dawg said:
Ok Brothers Lets Hear Your Ideas On Topping.
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hyroot said:
No top. Lst
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BOTH! shooting for a single site per square in the scrog right dawg? I topped when they were probably 4-6" tall this time (half way to the screen), and it gave me four dominant shoots in all directions..

then when they hit 8" I hit em with a FIM job in four or five different spots per plant, and lst'd those shoots to the further perimeter squares!

but wait... that means they're sturdy... even hardy shoots, then it makes all the side branching on "light-side" of the stems shoot up and become apical- filling in all the squares along the way.


I started fimming when they were still like 3-4" away from the screen, and basically bent those bitches over.... all week...
 
tags420

tags420

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I like topping early and letting those develop into 4+ good mains. I might top more if it is a viney like a OG. But then I supper crop and LST those mains as they develop to bush it out and get the tops and mid/lowers all on to the same level for a great even canopy.
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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hyroot said:
No top. Lst
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Lmao I Know Brother I Read You Comment In Uncle Bucks Topping Thread This Morning

Chronikool said:
Hahaha yeah...sort of a accident...i try and sift through my worm castings to get the worms out....sometimes though there are baby worms in there (gonna happen) so that goes into my mix....next time i see them is at the bottom of my cups as i lift them to see if they need watering.....kind of tells me i need to water aswell....the 'multi worm'....

I have a bit of a confession....i dont know much about my pH..... :(
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Chronikool said:
Oh Dawg.....im looking at options of 'Bloom boosters' towards the mid-end of flowering....what do you use?
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My Brother Its The Little Things We Stumble Upon While Growing That Keeps Us Searching For The Next Dirty Little Secrets.I Currently Dont Use Any Bloom Boosters.I Keep It Very Basic And Let The Genetics Do All The Work

Scotch089 said:
BOTH! shooting for a single site per square in the scrog right dawg? I topped when they were probably 4-6" tall this time (half way to the screen), and it gave me four dominant shoots in all directions..

then when they hit 8" I hit em with a FIM job in four or five different spots per plant, and lst'd those shoots to the further perimeter squares!

but wait... that means they're sturdy... even hardy shoots, then it makes all the side branching on "light-side" of the stems shoot up and become apical- filling in all the squares along the way.


I started fimming when they were still like 3-4" away from the screen, and basically bent those bitches over.... all week...
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Oh Hell Ya Im Going Try To Fill Every Square Inch.Im Running 2 Screens That Are 24x35 Each.So If Im Sucessful I Will Have A Sea Of Buds.Damn Just Thinking About It Makes Me Want To Lick Myself

tags420 said:
I like topping early and letting those develop into 4+ good mains. I might top more if it is a viney like a OG. But then I supper crop and LST those mains as they develop to bush it out and get the tops and mid/lowers all on to the same level for a great even canopy.
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Right On Brother tags420 Thats A Great Idea For A Future Grow.Im Going To Keep It Smiple This Grow
 
The Dawg

The Dawg

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:clap:Thank You My Brother For Yalls Input.Heres My Plan.Babs The Plant Thats Dedicated To My Good Friend Brother Psuagro Is Going To Get Toped Once Between The 3/4th Week Of Veg All the While Undergoing A Leaf Tucking Method.I Will Only Defoliate Her Under The Screen.Now Becky Is All Mine And I Will Also Top Her.I Will Be Defoilating Her And We Will See Which Lady Produces The Best Looking Bud.Becky Going To Kick Babs Azz And Make Her Lick Her Brown Eye :-P

Im Also Going To Switch Up My Light Cycles.Next Week I Will Run My Leds On A 20/4 Till The 4th Week Of Veg Then Im Going To Lower It To 16/8 For The Last Week Or So.Im Doing This To Promote Some Early Controlled Stretch.I Will Maintain A Light Height Of 18 Inches Through Out My Grow.Of Course All This Is Subject To Change.So Kick Back Dig While I Do It Ta Yall In Your Eardrum Babys.Who Me Im Knowen As Sir Lolli Popman Alis The Choloate Covered Freak In Habitat Form :weed:
 
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