spongey600
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it was so small when it started flowering that i did not want to take a cut and reduce the yield as i only got an ounce as it is. little sad i did not, but i dont have the knowledge to clone.
alaskan thunderfuck harvest(few days early......caterpillers)
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drolove
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think of it this way, that little cutting that would yield maybe 3 or 4 grams? could have been cloned into a whole new plant that could have yielded ounces. i always top my plants so those cuttings end up as clones. or sometimes i trim the bottom layer of the plant that would just be undeveloped popcorn bud at harvest and turn that into clones.
spongey600
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yeah, i need to work on that as when i topped the ATF i tried to clone the cutting but it did not make it.
drolove
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heard this in a movie called "grow op" which is not a actual growing vid its a movie. but throughout the movie the kids dad talks about alaskan thunder fuck and how its complex and his clones wouldnt take. maybe theres some truth to it and they are hard to clone?? lol
spongey600
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that would be funny! the link that the guy posted earlier says that strain is an indica and all my friends that have smoked what i have say its a heavy hitting sativa. i cant wait to get a job so i can test it out! at least its getting a good cure!
The matanuska valley is located in Alaska and MTF is historically any chronic bud from that valley (it is not native obviously). I have seen ATF and MTF multiple times each and they varied each time. I have also heard once that MTF is a cross of the ATF but I have no clue if that is true. Pretty sure they are just about the same though. Either way, every time the strain has been bomb.
PS Grow Op is a sweet movie.
PS Grow Op is a sweet movie.
drolove
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haha ya grow ops prettys good. a little slow here and there but not bad. funny fake weed plants all over the place. the ATF at the end looks like cattails or something. well i couldnt find anything when searching for ATF except mantuska tundra which is what leads me to believe its one in the same.
hey OP you got pics of the plant while it was still growing? we can tell wether its indica or sativa from the leafs
hey OP you got pics of the plant while it was still growing? we can tell wether its indica or sativa from the leafs
spongey600
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here you go
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spongey600
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how can you tell my the leaves? i thought indicas have super fat leaves
drolove
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indicas usually have around 5 fingers on the leafs and are fat. sativas tend to have more fingers and thinner leafs. i dont see more than 5 fingers and they are decently fat compared to one of sativas i got here (pineapple express). like i said it could have some sativa in it but i would have to say its more indica than anything. plant it also short compared to tall but that isnt a sure fire way of telling.
spongey600
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cool, thank you! i love me some indica, this lady was bought from a dispensary so it went from indoor lights to my balcony in april and my balcony did not get enough light so it went to flower in may finished july 3rd.
spongey600
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yeah, i think the shock of going from indoor to outdoor and here in San Diego the weather was cloudy and cool so i think it triggered. i am hoping it does not happen with my next 3 as i want to veg them till the end of aug at least.
That pic looks surpsiingly similar to an mtf plant I have seen judging by the leaf structure, but I am not 100% sure whether that one was a true mtf. Also had a dark funky purplish color too. So take that it was it is worth but they both look very similar.
As long as the strain has any percentage of sativa genetics, the leaves do not necessarily have to be the short, fat, few fingered indica dom ones. Different variations and phenos exist.
As long as the strain has any percentage of sativa genetics, the leaves do not necessarily have to be the short, fat, few fingered indica dom ones. Different variations and phenos exist.
I read a lengthy article from someone who had first hand experience, being the son of some of the first hippies to settle in the Matanuska Valley in Alaska that brought the original genetics with them that started off the whole MTF legend. He said ATF was not quite the same animal, though it had MTF genetics in it. The taste and high you describe fits his description. He said the muskiness/spicyness was unmistakeable on your sinuses when you hit it, not quite like anything else. He claimed the genetic origins were Sativa since Indicas were not readily available in the US or Canada in the early to mid '60's, though the plant has Indica looking traits. He did say he believed the only true MTF left was in clone form and difficult to find. And most of what the few seedbanks that carry it have called MTF or ATF isn't the real deal. Sativas can have these traits with some highland varieties from Brazil and Africa. In the early days I grew out some seeds a dealer we knew had been saving, claiming it was the best stuff he'd ever smoked. It was distinctly Sativa in many ways except it had small leaves that ranged from 3 to 5 medium width blades at the most. They were unusual plants that didn't quite fit the standard definitions including Ruderalis. Though seemingly mostly Sativa, the plants responded to 12/12 faster than everything else in my grow room (4 other strains) and finished faster as well, though one of my plants was a notoriously fast finishing Afghani. These plants finished up blindingly fast and autos didn't exist then. The buds were all smallish golf ball type with an orange tint when done, and the stems went off at angles from the nodes rather than remaining straight like most varieties. It was the gange! Sweet and certainly Sativa-like taste and cerebral high. It wasn't MTF, but it helps show some strains don't follow the typical classifications.
drolove
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cool thanks for the info man!
drolove
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ya probably did trigger it lol
cannavienna
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what wonders me most is that on the first pic there is soooooooo much actual bud not trichomes and leaves but actual seed production sites, fruit bodies, calyxes, whatever you call it.
definitely one hell of a plant you got there.
definitely one hell of a plant you got there.
