thanks for sharing man. dyna grow really isn't that concentrated compared ot other nutes. check the test done above. dyna was weaker than advanced by about 10%. someone here said it's just a basic nutrients for newbs and is not complex enough for experienced growers. i agree with that.
thanks for posting your experience. same exact thing happened to me so im not surprised. after i switched back to AN the leaves just stood up more and looked more alive like they were missing something. nuglets is right too dont be fooled by people telling you dyna is more concentrated and alot cheaper than other nutes cause its not true. run your own tests like we just did. dyna and the sensi 2 part are basically the same price so use whatever nutes you think are better without worrying about the price
well seeing how its coco your in and the nutes you bought were specifically for coco prob has something to do with it. were you using RO water or tap your ph could be off in the coco ive heard coco ph can be a nightmare what was your water feed schedule like? and how much were you using
if i were you i wouldnt listen to anyone else when it comes to nutes, i dont care if the've been growing 50 years you never know what someones agenda is on internet forums. you shouldnt wait till you see someone else do a comparison grow either just try another type of nutes yourself to find out the truth. look what happened when i listened to homebrewer who is a so called expert it turned out to be a disaster for me. i also highly doubt that lorinser's results with canna were because there meant for coco, if the nutes are alot better your gonna get much faster explosive growth theres no need to overthink the situation. me and lorinser experienced the same results and i didnt use coco i just think AN, canna, and h&g etc are on a different level than dyna
I fed my plants between .8-1.2 EC, 5.8 PH. I used Pro-tekt, grow, and foliage pro, plus cal/mag. Because I had never grown before I had nothing to compare dynagro with. I have been vegging plants with dynagro for the last two months, I have plants in all stages of veg, from just rooted clones, to large plants that have been vegging for 2 months. I honestly believed I was using the best nutrients on earth with the Dynagro, I bought into what Homebrewer said 100%. I am now very glad I ran out and tried Canna. My plants grew more in 5 days with Canna, than they did in 3 weeks with dyna gro. The difference was night and day
its like your reading my mind lol. thats exactly what i said in the biggining of this thread its like night and day you dont even have to run dyna gro a full crop to see what it does. my crop now that i used AN on i got plants that are 38" tall, last crop when i used dg my plants were 22" it was a fuckin joke lol. double in size is right my friend you hit the nail on the head. adding fulvics and kelp isnt gonna matter cause base nutes dont have that shit in them anyway
this is exactly why you shouldnt listen to anyone else and try out different nutes yourself. its not about changing my mind from using AN its about im saying i would never use dyna again. im not stuck on advanced im actually gonna test out h&g at some point
honestly most guys don't know enough about base and micro nutes and how they relate to plant growth. most don't know how to spot and treat deficiences or burns and end up making the problem worse. then they blame the nutrient and change brands until they find a formula that works with their feeding schedule, media, etc... you should dial your nutes in before you go changing them for other companies. it will teach you a lot more and also give you a baseline to go off before deciding to try other brands.
when did he ever say he hasnt dialed in dyna gro? your acting like you dont want him to try out other nutes or something. let him do what he wants theres nothing wrong with trying different nutes it could make a world of difference like it did with me
what makes you think i was talking about him? did i say his name or use the word "you" at any point in my post? just cause i quoted him doesn't mean i was talking about him. and i stand by what i said because it is the truth in my experience. from what i have seen on these forums and from years of experience that is the #1 reason for nutrient debates. if you gave the top 10 nute brands to a very experienced grower and gave him no additives and a harvest or 2 to get his ratios dialed in i bet you he would grow you 10 different plants using 10 different nutes that pretty much all looked the same.
usually when you quote someone in your post it means your responding to there comments. if you dont want people thinking your talkin to them then stop quoting them cause its confusing. you sound crazy what are you related to homebrewer or something lol if you use 10 different nutes on 10 different plants all of them are gonna look different in some way. maybe slightly different or totally different i get plants that are almost double the size of dg when i use sensi 2 part.
quoting someone usually means you are EITHER responding directly to them or EXPANDING on their train of thought. considering he never talked about any of his problems with nutrients in that post then i figured it was implied i wasn't talking about him. it may be confusing to you but since this is not my first forum or first account and you are the first person to comment on it i'm just gonna brush it off as an isolated incident.
my fault im not used to seeing someone quote someone and elaborate on what there saying it just didnt make sense to me. your right i dont remember what you said earlier in the thread theres way too many people on this forum to remember who they are and what they said in the past. the main point im trying to make is its my opinion all nutes are different in some way unless a company just straight up copied someone elses nutes to a t and it affects the plants in different ways. homebrewer even admitted earlier in this thread that h&g and AN have more of a certain type of nitrogen that makes plants stretch more. why do you think my plants are so much taller? its not cause i dont know what im doing. this proves that nutes can be very different thats all im sayin. i just think you should be encouraging people to try different things instead of just saying all nutes are the same if you get different results than you dont know how to grow. it also sounds insulting to people cause you sound like you dont value there opinion on nutes and your degrading peoples growing skills. i know your not doing it on purpose but it comes off like that
this is the quote i was talking aboutLook at the composition of the nitrogen in the different formulas you've used, there lies your answer. Nitrate nitrogen and urea are fast acting which is what AN uses. DG uses 2/3rds nitrate, 1/3 amoniacal nitrogen. In this H&G test grow, I'm seeing 'taller plants' because they use almost all nitrate nitrogen, just like AN and GH. What you're missing is that yield doesn't come from height, it comes from the nodes and given how fast light falls off as it moves away from it's source, you don't want 'taller plants', you want shorter plants with a lot of nodes. I'm 50 days away from harvesting these H&G aqua flakes ladies and other than pH stability, concentration levels, and the height of the plants, 10 days of using Aqua flakes says nothing about the quality (or lack thereof) of this plant food.
I also want to post this because haters always going to hate...is that appropriate here?This is nug talking to me in the thread below...
Thread found here: https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/523081-superthrive.html
i hear ya man. i think you are confused. i am not telling people NOT to use other brands and experiment with different additives and supplements. on the contrary, i'm actually telling people to do so. refer to my first post, i just got here so it can't be more than 10-15 posts ago. i even said that there are some nutrient lineups that are more complex and have higher quality ingredients.
homebrewer is 100% correct. you don't want tall stretchy plants in veg. he's wrong though cause it has nothing to do with the difference between the nitrogen in the 2 formulas.
im talkin about flower not veg. i just dont know why you even brought this subject up? this thread is about peoples opinions on there experiences with dyna gro compared to AN or other types of nutes. no one in the thread ever said they were having a problem keeping plants healthy with dyna gro not even me. i had a problem with the growth rates. o well it doesnt matter. we'll just leave it at this... i disagree with you when you say 10 different nutes on 10 different plants will look pretty much identical. everything else we talked about we probably misunderstood each other