Aeroponics cloning info needed?

I have 3 64 site ez cloners I have e tried everyway possible recirculating timer low and hight water Temps regenaroot hormex clonex traight r/o water I have done everything you can think of just to watch clones die from stem rot to rotting from top to bottom what am I doing wrong I have no problems rooting in humidity dome with rapid rooter and r/o water please tell me what you guys do thanks

how much stem are you putting thru the collars? I found more than 3/4" or so tended to rot for me.

I just tried again after a hiatus and had good success using plain tap water ph'd to 5.8. timer 1 min on 3 min off. indirect light with humidifier running. It took ~10 days for the first one to bump up and root then the rest followed quickly after.

No nutes/clonex/rooting hormone etc. A few drops of bleach is recommended pretty highly by a few people. I changed the water after 1 week even though no roots etc.

For me the bleach or pool shock did the trick. I was having issues before using that as well.

4bt4life said:

I have 3 64 site ez cloners I have e tried everyway possible recirculating timer low and hight water Temps regenaroot hormex clonex traight r/o water I have done everything you can think of just to watch clones die from stem rot to rotting from top to bottom what am I doing wrong I have no problems rooting in humidity dome with rapid rooter and r/o water please tell me what you guys do thanks

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I struggled with aero cloner forever too, until a pro told me how to do it correctly. Now I get roots 100% every time, in 1 -2 weeks depending on the strain and other factors.

OK, off to my "office" to get notes. BRB

Ready??

Ok, so the RO water is great. Use that.

You need 2 things additionally....73% pool shock, and Dip n Grow





Still with me? You are going to love this!! As taught by @Aeroknow

First you are going to mix up a gallon of pool shock solution. Mix 2 grams to 1 gallon of RO water. This is your solution to work with.

You add this solution to your cloner at the rate of 15 ml per gallon, every 2-3 days. This will keep everything sterilized. Put 15 ml in as soon as you add the ro water, and then every 2-3 days....I do every 3 days myself.

The dip n grow is used to dip your cuttings in for 10 seconds right before the go in the cloner.

So you can have a cupful of cuttings ready, then as you prep them 1 by one, dip each cutting for 10 seconds, and then cutting goes into your cloner with the pool shock.

No dome, and keep your temps in the low 70's. I use a cycle timer to achieve this temp in the summer....1 minute on, 4 off. In the winter mine can run 24/7.

I don't PH my water, but it probably wouldn't hurt.

Rooted clones are in your future!!

there ya go, I knew someone more knowledgeable with the formula with chime in!

2 grams per gallon, then use 15ml of the resulting solution per gallon. Sounds easy enough for me to use I'll write that down!

sandman83 said:

there ya go, I knew someone more knowledgeable with the formula with chime in!

2 grams per gallon, then use 15ml of the resulting solution per gallon. Sounds easy enough for me to use I'll write that down!

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a gallon will last you forever too!!

I made clear rez no problems I have tried dip and grow I have tried everything I'm starting to think my humidity is playing a factor in my house it 53% cuttings are long now i have tryed long short i have tryed everything also befor i switched to these pucks yhe root i did fet would grow ing side the puck on the black one and when i did get roots one time it took 24 days i have try many different clone of different mothers i feel like these cloners need a humidity dome idk i also run 2 air stones in pic also always change water every 5 days with clear rez

That humidity should be fine. Temp is important....anything above 75f is too much, and below 70f will be slow.

Your cloner looks over full though, or is that just an illusion? It looks like the cuttings would be in the water, which would not be good..

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I made clear rez no problems I have tried dip and grow I have tried everything I'm starting to think my humidity is playing a factor in my house it 53% cuttings are long now i have tryed long short i have tryed everything also befor i switched to these pucks yhe root i did fet would grow ing side the puck on the black one and when i did get roots one time it took 24 days i have try many different clone of different mothers i feel like these cloners need a humidity dome idk i also run 2 air stones in pic also always change water every 5 days with clear rezView attachment 5306668

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Make sure you cut below a node or two on the stem. Also use pool shock or household bleach as @manfredo was telling you. If the water is too hot they won't root and the only time I use a humidifier is when I'm cloning.

No there not in the water just looks like that please tell me your start to stop routine temp cutting light cutting length pH rooting hormone humidity in tent time to roots how long to let them sit in hormone gel start to stop process and is anyone else having problems with ezcloner and what machines you guys are using thanks

I don’t think humidity is the issue. I just started using an ezcloner after doing soil my whole life. I did think I was gonna need a dome as well when I first started. I am in a rain forest so I use a dehumidifier in my tent(this really made me think I had to have a dome). I have always ran it at 50%, I was a bit worried on my first run and raised it to 55%. The ezcloner sits 1 foot from the dehumidifier, light hangs about 3-4 feet above.led. I even stupidly misted the plants the first 3 days cause I was worried about them wilting. None of my clones ever wilted, they look great. I am 9 days in my first run now and got roots on all but maybe 1 of the 16. The plants have even started growing again. Before that with my soil method (2 8oz clear cups,1 on top for humidity). I was going 2-3 weeks before seeing roots. I was getting about 60-80% with this method. Using dip n grow. I am running multiple strains. I am happy and thank everyone in these forums for all the great info and back and forth on all these topics. Mahalo

A short interval timer can help keep temps down. A duty cycle of something like 30 seconds on/ 10 minutes off is plenty to keep roots wet.
I do feel that the constant cycling of the pump does burn them out faster, but those small cloning pumps aren't that pricey anyway.

are you putting the light too close to the clones? too much light makes it so they can't root.
rule of thumb for fluoro is over 12"
if using LED you may want to use a ppfd meter or lux meter. Anyways.. too much light will force them to grow instead of root.

Some strains are also harder to clone than others. I like to take different age clones when having a tough to clone plant AKA fresh growth vs older growth

After the first day I like to change my water, just in case any plant matter gets into the water

I use tap water because I'm on city and it contains chloramine, I change it once or twice a week.

I try to find cuttings with two nodes closer together staggered so that way I have 3 root spots- one on the bottom (45 degree cut) then the 2 nodes cut off using a sharp sterile razor

I use a recycling timer 5 on 15 off i have done it all with same clone in humidity dome with clonex and rapid rooter i get root 8 days ezcloner complete failure to me water never goes over 74 light is a 25w 2 feet away with a lux of 250 i dont fet it im at a loss tryed everything i watch people get roots in 3 days with a ezcloner just not me i have been trying everything for a year now just waisting clones

If someone has more info please let me know or has food literature please send it

did you make the spray manifolds?
the ones i see on the site have way less spray heads https://ezclone.com/product/ez-clone-low-pro-64-system/
more pics would be nice, it looks like a lot of heads for that little pump

I'd bring it outside and see if it is atomizing the spray, the point is you want it atomized. I used to use a homemade aero cloner the roots were great but cleaning it was a bitch! I ended up liking the bubble cloner alot more, it is simple, small, and easy to maintain in comparison. No hormones just tap water works fine for me as long as i swap the reservoir every so ofter it takes 1-2 weeks to see roots.

also is this only 1 strain you are trying to root? some are very difficult to root compared to others

No I have tryed many strains also manifold works great ezcloner gave me specs thinking my factory manifold was dirty inside and told me to build this one no difference

You might have biofilm buildup causing repeated bacterial contagion.

Completely sanitize your cloner. Get some zep sulfuric acid drain cleaner. Add 8oz of the bottle of zep into an ez cone 64 filled with water. Run it 12 hours. Then use the acid water to scrub the entire cloner inside and out (do it in a bathtub or similar, and wear heavy duty rubber gloves). Rinse. Fill cloner with water and 1/2 cup bleach. Run 8 hours. Rinse. Put cloning collars in the washing machine on sterilize mode. Add 3 oz of bleach to the washing machine. Dry everything completely.

After everything is scrubbed, sanitized and rinsed, follow the #griffintech protocol. Try to only use brand new air stones. Any reused air stones must be boiled for 15 min. They harbor bacterial crud.

If this doesn't solve your problems, have your water tested. Or just buy some rockwool plugs and a dome.