Aerogarden Amateur Bagseed Grow
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Hand Banana
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Dude, I'm the same way now since my pH scare!! I'm even coming home during lunch to make sure a light hasn't fallen on a plant or anything
Hand Banana
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I KNOW!! I feel like I'm really maximizing the plant's potential with this bad boy--man this bulb is humongous!! Can you imagine how huge it's going to be if they all turn out to be female!?HPS is going to take that grow to the next level! I'd stick with the CFL's during veg and switch to HPS in bloom. One thing to keep in mind with the AG is you want to keep them small. I started to flower after my plant got to about 8" and she nearly tripled in size. I was just going to say that if you get more CFLs be sure to get some in the red spectrum but since you got the HPS all bets are off.
I don't think I'd be able to keep up with all the watering! How high should I let the plants get in the veggie stage? I'd say they're only about 3-4 inches at this point. I'm going to run over to the hydroponics store today, what's a reasonable price for a ballast/lamp?
Hand Banana
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You da man SICC!!"SICC";1736255 said:Nice and bushy, full recovery, shit, cant get any better huh? haha this one is for your plantslook good
Things are goin awesome!!
Hand Banana
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Also interesting to note, the plants have really picked up their water consumption in the last few days. I've been keeping the water filled to the brim every morning, and when I checked it last evening, the plants had sucked up about a quarter of the reservoir! They're like Daniel Plainview, they drink it up!!! Does anyone know if someone's ever attempted to expand the Aerogarden reservoir?
purpdaddy
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Yah as the roots grow and the plants start to THRIVE,,they gonna strt suckin up a whole lot more water!
Id let them get about 12"( very bushy from topping) ause they gonne triple in size during flower..so you gotta kinda take heed to that you know!
Hand Banana
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All I have to say is, "Stay thirsty my friends."
If I let them get to 12 inches, couldn't that get a little out of hand during flowering? Bartleby was mentioning that he had some trouble after letting them get to 8 inches during the vegetative stage.
Hand Banana
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I was checking out this grow guide on another post, I've bolded the crucial points:
I bought a timer last night as well, and I'm thinking of switching them to an 18/6 photoperiod to help increase the number of females. The temperature gets a little warm in there with all those CFLs on 24/7, and it seems that the cooler temperature in conjunction with the shorter photoperiod would help increase the number of females. What do you think?
The time when things should be near perfect is in or around the 3rd to 4th week of vegetative growth. This is the CRITICAL TIME for getting those female ratios up and up. I realized this clearly when noticing how some plants hermed because of problems that occurred around this period of the plants development. If the problems occurred before this time - no herms. So for this reason I surmised that this is when the crucial gender selection is made by the plant. Now I believe that the genders are set in the seed however the environment has a massive impact on how this is expressed in the final phenotypic expression of the plants gender. There are probably many genes that govern this, however lets get into how to up these female ratios.
1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female plants originating from the seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female plants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female plants from seed, a lowering for an increase in male plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female plants, higher temperatures for more male plants.
4. Colour of light: more blue light makes for female plants from seed, more red light makes for more male plants.
5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male plants. *
1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female plants originating from the seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female plants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female plants from seed, a lowering for an increase in male plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female plants, higher temperatures for more male plants.
4. Colour of light: more blue light makes for female plants from seed, more red light makes for more male plants.
5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male plants. *
Hand Banana
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Ugh, I just called the hydroponics place, and they said the ballast would cost $150!! Their prices are way outta whack, they were selling HPS bulbs for $120 too! That's just ridiculous, how can they expect to compete?
Hand Banana
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I found someone on Craigslist who's willing to part with his sweet 400W HPS reflector for only $40! Anyone know a local, brick and mortar store that might sell ballasts on the cheap?
Hand Banana
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Day 21 - Tuesday, 12/9/2008
Day/Night Schedule: 18/6
pH: 6.0
1) Switched from 24/0 photoperiod to 18/6 to reduce temperature, and improve instance of females.
2) Purchased secondary pump and airstone, but have not installed yet.
3) Plants on the left side of the system are showing significantly better growth than those on the right side, possibly because of the presence of the airstone on the left side of the reservoir.
Day/Night Schedule: 18/6
pH: 6.0
1) Switched from 24/0 photoperiod to 18/6 to reduce temperature, and improve instance of females.
2) Purchased secondary pump and airstone, but have not installed yet.
3) Plants on the left side of the system are showing significantly better growth than those on the right side, possibly because of the presence of the airstone on the left side of the reservoir.
pullntubes420
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lookin great man dont stop what ever your doin
Bartleby Jones
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I let mine get to about 8" and it got to be just under what the stock light arm could extend to. Since you're going HPS you don't have that limitation. They are going to drink a LOT! I had just one plant and I was refilling the reservoir twice a week at the end. I cant help you on the ballast since i stayed with the CFL's. You're over the rough stage now. Once they start to grow it's MUCH harder to kill them....They are weeds after allI KNOW!! I feel like I'm really maximizing the plant's potential with this bad boy--man this bulb is humongous!! Can you imagine how huge it's going to be if they all turn out to be female!?
I would start thinking about what you can do for odor control now. I really wanted my grow to be don at the end. You could smell her just from opening the screen door to my house. It got old after awhile.
Hand Banana
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I let mine get to about 8" and it got to be just under what the stock light arm could extend to. Since you're going HPS you don't have that limitation. They are going to drink a LOT! I had just one plant and I was refilling the reservoir twice a week at the end. I cant help you on the ballast since i stayed with the CFL's. You're over the rough stage now. Once they start to grow it's MUCH harder to kill them....They are weeds after all
I would start thinking about what you can do for odor control now. I really wanted my grow to be don at the end. You could smell her just from opening the screen door to my house. It got old after awhile.
Thanks man!! I can already see they're getting much thirstier! I'm having to put in about half a liter a day now, a number I imagine will only increase from here! Some of the leaves have already developed a deep, dark green sheen--they're getting tough!
As for odor control, I've got a big Whirlpool HEPA filter at the base of the grow running 24 hrs a day. I've also got two smaller desktop HEPA filters which I haven't set up yet, but will later on in the grow. Do you think this will be sufficient? What did you do for odor control?
Bartleby Jones
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Just wait till the roots start coming in really well. Them plants are going to drink a TON! As for the smell I just lived with it. It's kinda cool in the beginning because it's not out of control. When you get to the end of the grow (for me it was during the flush) the stink-o-meter just goes off the charts. I had an Ionic Breeze going but it didn't even make a dent in the smell. Like I said you could smell pot just by opening the screen door to my house. I had ONE plant in the friggin' basement room so that there were two doors between the main part of the house and the plant. Now that's STANK! If you can get a carbon filter and punch holes in your grow chamber that's the best you can do for odor control. barring that I don't know. I was looking at everything from industrial air scrubbers to Glade Plugins. If you don't have to be super stealthy then just try and forget about it. In any case just be prepaird.
Hand Banana
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Hmmm...I'm in an apartment so I might need to figure out a good strategy. Do you think Glade/Febreze plugins would work?Just wait till the roots start coming in really well. Them plants are going to drink a TON! As for the smell I just lived with it. It's kinda cool in the beginning because it's not out of control. When you get to the end of the grow (for me it was during the flush) the stink-o-meter just goes off the charts. I had an Ionic Breeze going but it didn't even make a dent in the smell. Like I said you could smell pot just by opening the screen door to my house. I had ONE plant in the friggin' basement room so that there were two doors between the main part of the house and the plant. Now that's STANK! If you can get a carbon filter and punch holes in your grow chamber that's the best you can do for odor control. barring that I don't know. I was looking at everything from industrial air scrubbers to Glade Plugins. If you don't have to be super stealthy then just try and forget about it. In any case just be prepaird.
fbd21
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i'd go with a carbon scrubber. it doesnt just cover it up and you can never be too safe..
"SICC"
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Yea go with the Scrubber, take alook at this
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/90893-ultimate-odour-control-thread.html
Bartleby Jones
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Nope.
I was going to try the ONA gel but I just decided to live with it. Carbon scrubber is the way to go if you can.