Advanced Platinum LED P150 Advice please

Hi Guys,

Happy to be here!
Just trying to setup a grow tent etc in my loft and have bought the Advanced Platinum LED P150

I bought this on the recommendation of http://www.growweedeasy.com/ but on a few forums ive been on they are saying i need at least 7 of these to light a tent that 1.2x1.2x2.0 (meters)
I assumed that i would only need this light and thats it!
I was gonna plant feminised OGKush seeds

So for that size tent is this led light a waste of time? and should i go to HPS?

Thanks for any help

Platinum is overpriced "build in USA" (Actually China, it's rebranded Eshine) Epicrap lights.
In a 1.2x1.2 metre tent you'd indeed need 6 or 7 of those overpriced lights.

HPS is proven technology and will do the job.
800-1000 watt or so for a 1.2x1.2 (16 square foot) tent

Return that platinum.

If you're on a tight budget buy an HPS.

If not, buy some Tasty LEDs.

Cloud2142 said:

Hi Guys,

Happy to be here!
Just trying to setup a grow tent etc in my loft and have bought the Advanced Platinum LED P150

I bought this on the recommendation of http://www.growweedeasy.com/ but on a few forums ive been on they are saying i need at least 7 of these to light a tent that 1.2x1.2x2.0 (meters)
I assumed that i would only need this light and thats it!
I was gonna plant feminised OGKush seeds

So for that size tent is this led light a waste of time? and should i go to HPS?

Thanks for any help

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Cloud2142 said:

Just trying to setup a grow tent etc in my loft and have bought the Advanced Platinum LED P150

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I replied to your other thread about Name Ripoff Platinum. I don't think any of the epi-whatever lights are worth the money. But, Name Ripoff Platinum is a step below that.

Cheers buddy

I'll go with that

Do you think it will be usefull for anything, like when their small or something? or just send it back?

It's probably a good veg light. But, anything will veg cannabis.

I just hate to see Platinum be rewarded for confusing the marketplace, selling counterfeit AdvancedLED lights. It takes a perverse mind to believe you can blatantly ripoff a reputable company's name and reputation -- and the market won't care.

Great advice

Did a bit searching and found this, do you think it will do the job in my tent?

This high quality kit contains everything you need to start a 1000w digital dimmable lighting system, including:
1000w Dimmable Digital Lumatek Ballast
Parazontal Reflector
1000w Dual Spectrum Sunmaster Bulb

Cloud2142 said:

Great advice

Did a bit searching and found this, do you think it will do the job in my tent?

This high quality kit contains everything you need to start a 1000w digital dimmable lighting system, including:
1000w Dimmable Digital Lumatek Ballast
Parazontal Reflector
1000w Dual Spectrum Sunmaster Bulb

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Yup perfect for your setup.

If I were you I would see if there's an upgrade to get a hortilux superhps for flower and get a metal halide for veg. Use the metal halide until you flip to flower then switch to the hps.

Bonjour
Yes or get good cob light!!!
But if heat is not a concern go for hps...I ran some for more than a decade and now even if you give some to me I would say...no...never again...my box is so coooool now and my crop is over gpw in organic soil!
CU

Hello again,

Think i found a better one as this is a Super HPS kit, think this one will do?:

And ive been looking for a 1000w Metal Halide bulb but the only ones i could find dont look like they will fit this fixure, will i have to get a separate light fitting for the Metal Halide bulb?

Adjusta-Watt e-Lite - Sol Digital Super HPS - DE Stealth Adjustable - 1000w Grow Light Kit

This kit delivers 400v Super HPS technology for a truly breath-taking price. Really, nothing else in this price bracket comes close! You're getting three very highly specced pieces of professional growing equipment: the Adjusta-Watt e-Lite Ballast, the Sol-Digital Super HPS 400v DE 1000w lamp and the DE Stealth Adjustable Reflector. When put together they'll perform on a par with systems built by the likes of Gavita and Dimlux, delivering an enhanced lumen output, happier, healthier plants and most excitingly of all, yield increases of anything up to 20%.
High-Frequency Super HPS Lighting
Delivers heavier yields than standard 230v lighting
Fully switchable - like having three systems in one: 400w, 600w & 1000w with Overdrive (1100w)
Optimised to run at different output levels without compromising spectral output
The most efficient HPS lamp on the market
Extremely high levels of photosynthetically active radiation - PAR Value 2050 umol/m2/s
Fast warm-up and re-strike times
Ballast with 95% efficiency rating
Thermostatically controlled fans that keep the ballast cool at all times
Smart Start Ignition Control deals with inrush current when running multiple systems
Soft Start eases in lamps over a period of 3 to 5 minutes
RF shielding to prevent interference with radio / broadband equipment
400v adjustable digital ballast that's 30% more efficient than typical magnetics
Custom Sol-Digital DE Reflector - adjustable for an optimised light spread
Certified 95% reflective aluminium

Thanks

Bonjour
So no led/cob anymore?
Back to the old tech?
CU

Cloud2142 said:

Think i found a better one as this is a Super HPS kit, think this one will do?:

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Why did you buy Name-Ripoff Platinum LED instead of HPS? Was it just sexy technology? Or, were you actually trying to solve a problem like electricity cost, heat management?

If you have some priorities toward the latter, you might consider CMH instead of HPS. You'll run 35-40w/sq ft instead of 50-60w/sq ft for HPS. Significantly less radiant heat.

I just wanted to make sure you know it's not an either/or choice between high-end LED or low-end HPS (or low-end LEDs). CMH is in the middle. A SunSystems LEC315 covers 3.5x3.5' at 35w/sq ft.

You could supplement around two edges. If you keep the Name-Ripoff Platinum, that could be used to supplement. (I believe the inexpensive, inefficient epi-whatever LEDs do well with supplementing full-spectrum light, which CMH is.). I supplement with household LED lightbulbs. (I even grow entirely under them.). You could supplement an edge with those. (They should cover @ 30w/sq ft. So, you'd supply enough to do 35w/sq ft from the LEC, and 30w/sq ft with the lightbulbs. If you used your Name-Ripoff Platinum, you'd want to use it at around 50w/sq ft. I.e., factor in it's contribution that way.).

You're talking about running an HPS at 62w/sq ft. You could do more efficient light without spending on high-end LED.

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Why did you buy Name-Ripoff Platinum LED instead of HPS? Was it just sexy technology? Or, were you actually trying to solve a problem like electricity cost, heat management?

If you have some priorities toward the latter, you might consider CMH instead of HPS. You'll run 35-40w/sq ft instead of 50-60w/sq ft for HPS. Significantly less radiant heat.

I just wanted to make sure you know it's not an either/or choice between high-end LED or low-end HPS (or low-end LEDs). CMH is in the middle. A SunSystems LEC315 covers 3.5x3.5' at 35w/sq ft.

You could supplement around two edges. If you keep the Name-Ripoff Platinum, that could be used to supplement. (I believe the inexpensive, inefficient epi-whatever LEDs do well with supplementing full-spectrum light, which CMH is.). I supplement with household LED lightbulbs. (I even grow entirely under them.). You could supplement an edge with those. (They should cover @ 30w/sq ft. So, you'd supply enough to do 35w/sq ft from the LEC, and 30w/sq ft with the lightbulbs. If you used your Name-Ripoff Platinum, you'd want to use it at around 50w/sq ft. I.e., factor in it's contribution that way.).

You're talking about running an HPS at 62w/sq ft. You could do more efficient light without spending on high-end LED.

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I'm not sure I would call a double ended hps low end. Still better then mogul hps and much better then fluros or cfls. They are still the standard in most grows now a days. And to the OP I'm not sure you'll find a DE mh bulb as I'm not sure they exist

Please let us know how your led worked out for you.

Evening all,

"Was it just sexy technology?" Yep pretty much, got a habit of rushing into things

I ended up going for a "Maxibright Pro-Select 1000w DigiLight Supernova" kit

Hopefully be okay with my 1.2x1.2x2.0 meter tent? Dont want the thing burning my house down, I can dim the bulb down to 400w apparently

I also upgraded my fan to a 8" Rhino pro Carbon Filter fan, not sure if thats a bit too powerfull even on the lower setting, i'll rig it up properly and find out

I'm gonna keep hold of the LED i'm sure i'll use it somewhere along the way

Cheers

Bonjour
Well 1000w in 4x4....yes you will need this kind of extractor with this heat factory!!!
I get mad with a 600hps in my 4*4...so with 1000w I hope you live in a cold area where electricity is cheap!
And to pull more than gpw in soil in a 4*4 with a 1000hps you will need a/c and a lots of fans...not with cob!
Good luck you gonna need it!

@littlejacob
'And to pull more than gpw in soil in a 4*4 with a 1000hps you will need a/c and a lots of fans...not with cob!'

Thanks for the reply, but not to sure what you mean by gpw in soil and needing a/c (i have a power socket in the loft if thats what you mean), i can dim the light to 600w, would i still need lots of fans? And whats a cob?

Cheers

Bonjour
I meant gram per watt in organic soil...which is harder than gpw in hydro!
Cob is chip on board...I have some cree cxb3590 3500ºk 36V CD @ 1400mA (50w) X 4...and 8 more soon...I don't want to use this heat factory know as hps or mh anymore!
15years of good duty but now it is outdated and much less efficient and effective than cob!
Just watch Growmau5 (a member here) vids on youtube and you will regret you didn't build your own cxb3590 pannel!...just a few vids and you will change your mind and will understand a lot more about cob tech!
CU

Cheers any bud, already bought this now...almost ready to go..