Advanced Nutrients Grand Master Grower Bundle Product Review

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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you guys are hyping up a plant that is essentially still in veg. post pics when it's a week from harvest. and them post the harvest weight. keeping a plant healthy in veg is like keeping your underwear clean...pretty simple for anyone over 5.
 

max420thc

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Scooby Doobie Doo.LOL..A million bucks if you take the nute challenge.Your money back if you try it and dont like it.
To cheap to try it..to cheap to get in the game.
You know when you go to vegas and go to gamble..and you walk by the penny slots...I bet there are a bunch of RIU growers at those slot machines..and we just dont know it when we walk by them.
 

TonightYou

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That looks like a healthy plant, the dark leaves are most likely from the lack of light added with depth. Looks like maybe some nice neem oil possibly.

A nitrogen toxicity would have the tell tale signs of clawing and eventual cracking of the leaves.
 

raiderman

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I agree that plant looks as healthy as can be.Budcandy is always a plus,,ive always been sold on Fox Farms and best results for me seeing ive used a good % of brands over the years.
 

TonightYou

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I started on Fox farms and to be honest it's not bad but a few issues came to mind. Only using the three parts, not fucking around with snake oil boosters
1 I had salt participants when mixing with water (not adding anything else)
2 Not nearly enough N in flower, you will get a deficiency before the end of flowering.
3 salt buildup in the soil, seem to occur when even giving less than recommended which in turn caused lock out
4 watch out for a Mg deficiency
5 cost


Switching to Jacks really did remedy these issues and saved me money. Not saying it's the only way to go, but jacks citrus works very well for flowering, while classic is great for veg. I no longer need to be reactionary, which simply makes growing easier

Edited to add, I started growing with the wrong preconceived notion that cannabis was somehow different and special from other plants. I've been a gardener for over 18 years with vegetables, maintaining a plot, composting, and the whole nine yards. Corn, blueberries, strawberries, squash, heirloom tomatoes, and my favorite exotic spicy peppers. Shamefully I admit I ignored all basic plant biology buying into the bullshit. Picked up the famous grow book by Ed Rosenfeld (granted I think it was authored by someone named Mel) which pulled me back down to reality while providing me with a much better biological explanation to growing.
 

raiderman

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that is true ,and i do add a N add times depending on strain to keep a deep green going throughout.. Ive never used Jacks..I may give it a whirl.thx for the tip TonightYou.
 

Wilksey

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All I know is that when I looked at plants grown with the "ADVANCED NUTRIENTS JEDI MASTER BUNDLE!!!!!!" and plants grown with ferts that DIDN'T cost a gojillion dollars, they all looked pretty much the same to me.

Thank you growers for grow logs that show it can be done WITHOUT being suckered out of hard earned ca$h by greedy fert companies.
 

max420thc

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So im the only one who sees the leafs twisting and turning.To top that off he didnt get his initial vert stretch for the colas to fill out and in.
The reason he didnt get vertical stretch?To much N.To the point its toxic.
You can see one leaf twisting upside down in the pic..it took it worse than the other plant that just got stunted by it.
I dont mean to be mean to you over your plant.I wish i could say it looks fine and healthy..but it doesn't.It would do me no good..or you no good for me to pat you on the back and say otherwise.
As OCD as i am if i had leafs turning upside down like that i wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinking about it.
If some of you are going to bash a nute system you never even tried i challenge you to try it..for free.
If you go get the nutes..use them for your first run..and dont like how it turned out.NOT THE PRICE. take the shit back and get your money back..simple.
ITS FREE..FIRST RUN..FREE FREE..LOL..
Go get the stuff..run it once..if you dont like it take it all back for all of your money back..simple..first run you do on them is FREE.
Then you can come in here and say..what a shit company and product it is..
 

TonightYou

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I see what you are saying on the lower part of the picture, but that does not look like N toxicity. Just looks like an odd angle, in the other picture it doesn't look bad at all.

Besides it's early in flower, those plants will need the N for the upcoming stretch and beginning of bloom. I could easy treat my plants with neem oil and have a beautiful looking Plant. Take a picture and it will easily have a darker appearance in the photo than in reality. With N toxicity you get the claw not unlike over watering but with the lengthening on the blades as they narrow while gaining an odd texture with the cracking of the leaf. If you look at the rest of the plant, the growth is lighter in color and appearing healthy.

Eta little weird you'd lose sleep over your girls. Don't get me wrong, I love and say good morning and good night to mine. Some strains have weird characteristics and I am not going to fret.

With regards to trying it and returning it, good luck. That is the exact marketing bullshit that late night TV sellers use, then make it a hassle to return. A good product sells itself, no gimmicks, no pimping needed. I'm happy your happy with advance, but I bet as a grower you can do better at a more cost effective fertilizers. While I couldn't be happier with Jacks, if something else, or if I switch to organics (fucking teas, wish I didn't always make mistakes with them) I would. Thing is, if you spend more on marketing than the product, and I can find inconsistencies with the contents as well as the ridiculous profit margins on basic materials... it gets me suspect
 

Stoned Drifter

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So im the only one who sees the leafs twisting and turning.To top that off he didnt get his initial vert stretch for the colas to fill out and in.
The reason he didnt get vertical stretch?To much N.To the point its toxic.
You can see one leaf twisting upside down in the pic..it took it worse than the other plant that just got stunted by it.
both plants where super cropped to keep even canopy and to reduce stretch. the one on the right has the leaf turning from being squished in the tent. I sleep perfectly fine. ill be posting my harvest next month, and final weight in march.last day of veg when I supercropped it. in this pic u can see the plant right against the tent. pic also shows plant rubbing on tent causing leaf to curl. and no neem has been added to them since 3 weeks ago during their veg. they just have this crazy glow. :)
 

Ibex

Active Member
I dont mean to be mean to you over your plant.I wish i could say it looks fine and healthy..but it doesn't.
You are such a stellar example of the RuI community!
Also, those plants look fine.

Care to post your unbelievably better bud shots?

If some of you are going to bash a nute system you never even tried i challenge you to try it..for free.
If you go get the nutes..use them for your first run..and dont like how it turned out.NOT THE PRICE. take the shit back and get your money back..simple.
ITS FREE..FIRST RUN..FREE FREE..LOL..
Go get the stuff..run it once..if you dont like it take it all back for all of your money back..simple..first run you do on them is FREE.
Then you can come in here and say..what a shit company and product it is..

I did exactly that. Then changed away from AN's excessive marketing budget.
Ive been using Dutch Master's macro line since 2008 now and recently added in Canna pk 13/14

Real question is, why do you feel the need to defend a company so much? Why the hell do you care what anyone else uses if your plants are doing well?
 

Stoned Drifter

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Real question is, why do you feel the need to defend a company so much? Why the hell do you care what anyone else uses if your plants are doing well?
hum I wonder? check out this post he put up in another AN thread.
Feel free to call ANs tech support they are knowledgeable 1 866 405 4769,The bud blood is not designed to be used in the PH perfect system. It will screw with your plants.
Ive had runs pull of almost perfect using bud blood and others go to shit using it with the PH perfect system.
Bud blood is one of the best products on the market.JUST dont use it with their sensi or connie ph perfect systems.DO NOT.
I have called AN up screaming mad with them and they informed me not to use bud blood with their ph perfect systems.BUT THEY NEVER PUT A NOTE OUT on release of the PH perfect system that bud blood will screw things up.The bud ignite takes the place of the bud blood.
If you are using AN ( i have had several years of good experience with them)Try and use most of their line up.The new system cuts out several bottles of stuff..like the cal mag and humic fulvics from their old system making it cheaper and easier to operate the AN nute line up.
For example their rino skin has a NPK rating of 0 0 13.Most silica supplements do not have the NPK rating.This product is designed to work in conjunction with the rest of their products.
Ive been sitting here doing price comparisons of their new line up vs their old line up.Comparing it to my current line up.Some of what i use is not from AN.Ive used products with good results and try to keep using them.But it looks like i should drop some of the humbolt countys own products out and replace them with ANs products..after doing a price comparison some of the products are just slightly more expensive than what i am using from other companys and some of them are actually cheaper.
Where you start seeing huge cost savings using the AN line up is buying in bulk.The discounts are huge compared to buying one litre bottles of everything.
The best place to get pricing on AN products is DAN. discount advanced nutes.I confirm anything someone tells me through this company as they sell every product from every supplier and have experience with what works best.They do not just sale AN.So i get a unbiased opinion from them.DANs number is 18664054769.Call them up and ask them what their opinion is one nutes and products.They will give you the truth.
dude puts # on twice just in case u missed it the first time.
 
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