Advanced Flushing Techniques

charface

charface

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jaggwaa said:
Indeed a beautiful setup and very nice healthy plants. Look, you have figured it out all well. And its working for you. and m happy for that. I am just a newbie, with a concept that i want to try and experiment with. I am one of those, who will listen to everyone, but eventually will do what they want at the end. This way the experience lives with you for the rest of your life. And this way i learn a lot things. Some are good some are bad, am sure you have done it too when u were a newbie. so i will starve some, feed some, water some, use hormones on some trim and run some and some some :-)
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Absolutely, I try almost everything.
All I want to do here is plant the seed in you that DRY and CURE
Are critical.

Its my most stressful time.
I stopped guessing and started using gauges with my jars.

I see people doing the same but having one in there isn't enough.

You need to respond to it of course.

Dry and cure was my biggest hurdle.
I don't do anything special other than
Respond with more or less moisture and temp proactively.

That info is all available here on the site.
 
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KryptoBud

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Johnny Lawrence said:
No. This is all wrong. Don't listen to this guy.

My suggestion would be a flush more earlier then last two weeks including the dark period and the last two weeks should be without water, that would force the plant to consume its greens.
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You know better than Michigan State University? Can you post some links or something other than this is all wrong? Enlighten me. It's gonna take more info than "flush more earlier" "Force the plant to consume it's greens" WTF does that even mean? Having a hard time even taking you serious.
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Using too much PK is what yellows and burns upper leaves like that. Proper fading like an outdoor plant in autumn fades from the bottom up.

Mobile nutrients like NPK and calcium show deficiencies in the lower fan leaves first.

I only use a Grow ratio fertilizer all the way through to avoid this. Bloom boosters are a myth.

I know this is a point that will cause argument but When I stopped using bloom nutes my harvest greatly improved in health, flavor and potency.
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Did you mean magnesium?
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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hahahahaha bro that statement is so funny and i knew this consume its greens will get famous. Anyways Kryptobud, Plants consuming its greens were my words and it just means how the plant turns yellow with proper flush and less nutrients towards the end, Any leaf changes its color from green to yellow , brown, and dry eventually when the plant is deficient and remove all movable nutrients out of that leaf and reallocate where they are needed. in other words that green leaf got consumed or utilized by the plant ... hence Consumes its greens :-)
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Does it come in a bottle with fancy graphics I can just leave on the shelf?

I think it is called. “The Flushinator”.
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There is another i was just reading about, flawless flush by advance nutrients, which presumably have Empty Chelates that goes in soil and roots and their emptiness is filled with nutrientsbongsmilie
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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Well unfortunately this flushing is purely a cannabis thing. I cannot find any scientific testing information on it. We need grand pa ss and grand ma aaa for tips
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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jaggwaa said:
Well unfortunately this flushing is purely a cannabis thing. I cannot find any scientific testing information on it. We need grand pa ss and grand ma aaa for tips
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It’s like we said. It’s bull. It’s a way to pump the plant full of high ppm nutrients to push it as big as possible and then give water only till it fades so you can sell it sooner. It also speeds up the flower cycle. Like bloom boosters with little or no nitrogen. Buds ripen before their time.

but better results are from proper feeding and care.
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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charface said:
Absolutely, I try almost everything.
All I want to do here is plant the seed in you that DRY and CURE
Are critical.

Its my most stressful time.
I stopped guessing and started using gauges with my jars.

I see people doing the same but having one in there isn't enough.

You need to respond to it of course.

Dry and cure was my biggest hurdle.
I don't do anything special other than
Respond with more or less moisture and temp proactively.

That info is all available here on the site.
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I agree here with you. I have yet to work on the chemical processes happens inside during curing, but i have a feeling that i will not find any scientific data on this matter to. All mojos telling their own theories and i have to make one too right. lol
But on a serious note, remember when i said that to utilize excess nutrition within the plant, it needs time, i think thats whats happening in curing.
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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MichiganMedGrower said:
It’s like we said. It’s bull. It’s a way to pump the plant full of high ppm nutrients to push it as big as possible and then give water only till it fades so you can sell it sooner. It also speeds up the flower cycle. Like bloom boosters with little or no nitrogen. Buds ripen before their time.

but better results are from proper feeding and care.
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Well said man
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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*Better results are subjective.

Lots of people have specified that they don't feed in the last week up to some duration and still have great results consistently.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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jaggwaa said:
Well said man
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Thanks. I am just repeating what I have learned from dealing with growers for 35 years and growing myself for 4.

We all go through this experimental phase. But it is Grow book and forum stuff. Read about how to grow agricultural crops or general gardening info.

Simplifies some of the myths and explains the real science.
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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Thats exactly what i think as
CannaBruh said:
*Better results are subjective.

Lots of people have specified that they don't feed in the last week up to some duration and still have great results consistently.
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well. If you just google cannabis harvest, you will all sorts of real big colas with completely yellow leaves protruding out from within the bud. I just wonder how they must taste like after a proper cure, i feel like curing has a different process altogather, but if we cure a green leaves plant and a yellow leaves plant at harvest, iam so sure yellow one will be superior in smell and taste. Then there comes another topic of how it is possible to get those fatter buds with yellow leaves. I have a theory there, will share in a momment
 
jaggwaa

jaggwaa

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I think if we speed up the growth towards the end, and same time reduce nutrients, that would cause the plant to deplete its of its nutrients stores.
Now how we can do that, probably with he help of hormones. Which brings me to the other researches am doing. What i found is all these store bought nutrients are full of synthetic and natural hormones. Read this multiple times here and there. Unlike the flushing, hormones have decent studies present on google. I ordered couple my self. But they will reach me in a month, then i will be somewhere near the 8th week of my flowering. Which was not the plan but i have to test some theories. Unlike nutrients, hormones will only regulate plants internal processes. That theory of stopping feed and increasing growth can be done by using triacontanol. But we'll see how that goes.
 
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