Adding flowering nutrients to my Autoflower

907_Tree_Burner

907_Tree_Burner

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1st time grower here and Ive been reading that some people push a week or two further before adding flowering nutrients after the flowers look to be forming well. My questions are can you wait too long? and if so what week would be considered too long? (Sorry probably wrong area I apologies )
 
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Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Yes it's usually a good idea to wait until you are about 2 weeks into flowering before switching to your higher P flowering formula nutrient as many times the plant needs more N than the bloom nutes typically provide. Also if you can wait a couple weeks to switch over from a MH to an HPS bulb as the redder spectrum is not needed by the plant until there are pistils visibly forming.
 
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LordRalh3

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Bah, thats all a scam waiting to take your money. All anyone needs is a balanced 4-2-5 with trace in there for the whole thing. The whole 9 part cannabis nute market is a joke.
 
907_Tree_Burner

907_Tree_Burner

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LordRalh3 said:
Bah, thats all a scam waiting to take your money. All anyone needs is a balanced 4-2-5 with trace in there for the whole thing. The whole 9 part cannabis nute market is a joke.
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Well I have 3 Grow Big, Big Bloom, and Tiger Bloom and as far as I understand Tiger is not for Veg....but I have been reading you can push growth by not adding the Tiger Bloom...are they lying when they say once you add flowering nutrients upward growth stops? I dont mind either way because I will add the Tiger just dont know if I should wait..this is where im at now and im still getting upward growth.
 

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Richard Drysift said:
Yes it's usually a good idea to wait until you are about 2 weeks into flowering before switching to your higher P flowering formula nutrient as many times the plant needs more N than the bloom nutes typically provide. Also if you can wait a couple weeks to switch over from a MH to an HPS bulb as the redder spectrum is not needed by the plant until there are pistils visibly forming.
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ok im still getting upward growth here is a better picture of where im at your input is greatly appreciated
 
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Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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LordRalh3 is right- you don't really need all that shit "they" want you to think that you need but you must provide them NPK plus the full range of macros. When you are using chelated synthetic nutrient like fox farm you are giving the plant dissolved salts it can use immediately whereas in a natural grow the microbial life present in the soil feeds the plant. Synthetic nutrients kill much of the micro life forcing you to continue to use dissolved salts which the plants are fine with as long as everything they need is given to them. They will use more N during the transition to bloom but gradually need more P and K as the plant focuses it's energy on bud development instead of increasing it's own mass. The plant will seek out what it needs & use it as it is needed; more is just waste & will deposit those salts in your soil to build up over time which is why regular flushing is needed. Whatever you dump on them will not trigger more vegging or more buds - only bigger lights produce bigger buds- the light cycle is the sole trigger for flowering a plant has. Nutrients feed them when they are hungry- that's about it.
Your plant looks very healthy nice job so far - so just keep doing what you are doing - the plant is just about to pop off with pistils real soon it looks like so wait till ya see them & that is a good time to switch over to your bloom formula and/or HPS bulb; of course you can do it any time you want but 14 days into bloom might give the most benefit. Some growers don't even bother with using veg nutes at all because nitrogen is relatively easy to provide in the soil with a just handful of worm castings.
 
907_Tree_Burner

907_Tree_Burner

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Richard Drysift said:
Yes it's usually a good idea to wait until you are about 2 weeks into flowering before switching to your higher P flowering formula nutrient as many times the plant needs more N than the bloom nutes typically provide. Also if you can wait a couple weeks to switch over from a MH to an HPS bulb as the redder spectrum is not needed by the plant until there are pistils visibly forming.
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Richard Drysift said:
LordRalh3 is right- you don't really need all that shit "they" want you to think that you need but you must provide them NPK plus the full range of macros. When you are using chelated synthetic nutrient like fox farm you are giving the plant dissolved salts it can use immediately whereas in a natural grow the microbial life present in the soil feeds the plant. Synthetic nutrients kill much of the micro life forcing you to continue to use dissolved salts which the plants are fine with as long as everything they need is given to them. They will use more N during the transition to bloom but gradually need more P and K as the plant focuses it's energy on bud development instead of increasing it's own mass. The plant will seek out what it needs & use it as it is needed; more is just waste & will deposit those salts in your soil to build up over time which is why regular flushing is needed. Whatever you dump on them will not trigger more vegging or more buds - only bigger lights produce bigger buds- the light cycle is the sole trigger for flowering a plant has. Nutrients feed them when they are hungry- that's about it.
Your plant looks very healthy nice job so far - so just keep doing what you are doing - the plant is just about to pop off with pistils real soon it looks like so wait till ya see them & that is a good time to switch over to your bloom formula and/or HPS bulb; of course you can do it any time you want but 14 days into bloom might give the most benefit. Some growers don't even bother with using veg nutes at all because nitrogen is relatively easy to provide in the soil with a just handful of worm castings.
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Awesome! thanks for the advice and knowledge! Im only trying this Fox Farm to build some confidence and and see if I enjoy it. I will be moving to some new things after I get 3-4 harvests under my belt.
 
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