Absolutely massive aphid infestation. To organophosphate or not to organophosphate?

Nutty sKunK

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I have huge indoor aphid problem that I have been trying to solve using soap alcohol and essential oils. It has helped, but not a lot.

Should I continue using soap and alcohol or should I just dust everything with organophosphate pesticides? It is affecting 7-8 plants (not all cannabis) to the point that many branches on each plant look like pic related.

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That is fucking minging. Burn it
 

Creature1969

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Typical response from a rollitup well known member. Toxic. Just trying to help the op with actual experience with a full on infestation large scale.;)
lol maybe I am toxic since I managed to win my war against aphids which coincidentally, is also around the same size grow as the OP's. Go figure. :bigjoint:
 

jbcCT

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I have huge indoor aphid problem that I have been trying to solve using soap alcohol and essential oils. It has helped, but not a lot.

Should I continue using soap and alcohol or should I just dust everything with organophosphate pesticides? It is affecting 7-8 plants (not all cannabis) to the point that many branches on each plant look like pic related.

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Wow. Just wow. Can you suck those things off with the end of a vacuum cleaner?

Holy hell how do those get inside? Soil?
 

piratebug

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Just 15 or 20 minute pirate bugs, would clean that shit up in a week, but if you want to kill them all quick 1/16 vinegar/water dunks, get a 40 gallon barrel fill it with 32 gallons water, 2 gallons vinegar, flip the plant over, dunk them for 30 seconds, then air dry them with fans!
 

TrippleDip

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Ive seen greenhouses that bad, once they get to that point you were fkd weeks before that. You could use everything, every tactic combined, they will just come back the next day even stronger.
This is my greatest fear. I hope to use multiple sprayings of multiple chems targeting all parts of the life cycle. That and prayer. The fact there are multiple spiders in each plant gives me hope but I figure spraying will kill them too.


t a healthy bell pepper plant in there, wait 24 hours, take it outside and hose it off.
You'll have zero aphids after a few days of this
Posts like this give me hope. I have probably half the numbers after washing and spraying with soap. I think natural isn't going to fix this though..


Look at them go haha!!!!:bigjoint: Back to the op good luck man!!!
They're so frikin gross. Thanks!


Wow. Just wow. Can you suck those things off with the end of a vacuum cleaner?


Holy hell how do those get inside? Soil?
No but had squishing works quick and you can kill 500 a minute but they are still everywhere. Yes, they were brought in with soil. Our frost out date is oct 7th so I brought in about 30 tropical plants for overwintering.


I wouldn't put organophosphates on my crop. Have you considered trying diatomaceous earth?
I might use it. Gonna need multiple techniques I think.


Edit: Also flipped my veg plants to flower today, fingers crossed.
 
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Gond00s

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Step 1 : go to stove pull it out.
Step 2 : undo gas line and wait
Step 3 : u already know
Step 4 : bugs gone and much more :D
"Please don't do this."
In reality I would just toss it and nuke the hell out of all the rooms around it.
 
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neonfree

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Just wanted to say to ya, remember the look of those exoskeletons for the future. You can stop an outbreak if you spot some of the white exoskeletons on a plant, sometimes it will only be on 1 plant, in one small area, and you can nuke them on that plant kill them all, then treat the rest of the plants as preventative. If i get a plant with a single aphid, its red flag, high alert time!! :weed: Ive only had them in greenhouse work, never my personal indoor knock on wood lol!!!


Edit-- Ive read that the honeydew the aphids produce tastes great!! Which is absolutely disgusting that someone decided to find that out yuck!!!! haha never ever
 
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TrippleDip

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Welp, here's an update in case it saves somebody some trouble. Stuck to the natural sprays, looked like the aphids were clear.. Nope. Came right back. Ended up trashing all the tropicals. The aphids moved to my houseplants. FML. Now over 2 months battling aphids. Easy to get rid of my ass.

Tldr: if you have a lot of aphids, save yourself the trouble and garbage everything. They will always come back when sprayed.
 

Rurumo

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Welp, here's an update in case it saves somebody some trouble. Stuck to the natural sprays, looked like the aphids were clear.. Nope. Came right back. Ended up trashing all the tropicals. The aphids moved to my houseplants. FML. Now over 2 months battling aphids. Easy to get rid of my ass.

Tldr: if you have a lot of aphids, save yourself the trouble and garbage everything. They will always come back when sprayed.
All of us have had aphids, they are probably the most common pest. They are also easy to deal with-you probably just ignored the problem for too long before addressing it. Next time try some IPM from the beginning, simple things like neem oil, sticky traps, etc. Try some nematodes in the soil once you start seeing aphids.
 

xtsho

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Welp, here's an update in case it saves somebody some trouble. Stuck to the natural sprays, looked like the aphids were clear.. Nope. Came right back. Ended up trashing all the tropicals. The aphids moved to my houseplants. FML. Now over 2 months battling aphids. Easy to get rid of my ass.

Tldr: if you have a lot of aphids, save yourself the trouble and garbage everything. They will always come back when sprayed.
Or just spray them off outside with a hose or indoors in the shower. They came back because you never got rid of them. Citric acid would have killed them dead on contact.

Google "pesticide resistant aphids". The same goes for mites and other bad bugs. Indiscriminate overuse of pesticides has caused resistance to many pesticides. I really don't understand why so many continue to use expensive commercial products that may or may not work when a few pennies worth of citric acid will kill them on contact and they can't build up a resistance because the citric acid literally fries them.
 

simpleleaf

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I have huge indoor aphid problem that I have been trying to solve using soap alcohol and essential oils. It has helped, but not a lot.

Should I continue using soap and alcohol or should I just dust everything with organophosphate pesticides? It is affecting 7-8 plants (not all cannabis) to the point that many branches on each plant look like pic related.
I was just looking for unrelated information, and found this document that mentions a few different treatments for aphids.

Legal Pest Management Practices for Cannabis Growers in California (PDF)
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