About to grow my first Auto... Need some advice and input TIA <3

Brian.

Member
Hey RIUs, been a long time, but I'm back. My last grow was "okay", learned a bunch with photo, and looking forward to doing more photo again soon.

As I just made my new veg cabinet, and happened to get a free Afghan Kush Ryder seed, it is a perfect time for a rest, and an "easy" grow, while I ready my plans for my flower cab. I will soon have a two stage grow setup, and can't be more pleased.

As you probably do not know (since I haven't been around and never posted this section before :P), I am a CFL user. I love them. Low heat, easy to acquire, cheap. I only run 2 or 3 plants at a time, and I'm about to run just 1 auto for now anyway, so I should be good on light. I plan to use 4 CFLs, 3 red and 1 blue, later adding a 5th and 6th as she grows stronger, also 1 red and 1 blue.

My space is 12x16x24. It's a bit taller, but the lights of course take up some space. It is the perfect space for 2 plants to veg at a time, and start two more each time those go to flower - but since I'm in for a break, and wanting to try this auto thing out, I'm going to run the AKR in there, all the way through, 20/4.

I have Fox Farms Happy Frog (2 gallons) that I plan to add 1 gallon of perlite to - good idea? Good soil and perlite mix for this plant?

I have NOT decided on nutes yet, and it is my FIRST oganic soil grow - Previously, I used some Schultz mixed with some basic soil and some cactus/succulent mix (just to make it less muddy, it was shit, and then it grew me two awesome plants!) - This time, i didn't want to ghetto the guess work, so researched a bit, and settled on "trying" Happy Frog - should I add the perlite, or no? Should I do 3 gallon bucket in this space, or just 2 gallon? Will 3 gallon outgrow my space? IF this auto outgrows its space, can I just take it out and place it out back or in my window to finish? What kind of nutes are a must? Can I use the blue shit? I am NOT picky about chem vs organic, not enough experience to be so yet! I would LIKE to keep this fully organic, but I have NO idea at All whether I will need veg nutes (won't my happy frog last until flower nutes time anyway?), whether chem will be fine for flowering, or even what kind of flowering nutes I need. I been looking around a lot and can't decide. I thought about buying some 2 or 4 ounce "self made second hand samples" of tiger bloom or something like that, but I don't want to until I hear from the people here!

Guys, I just want as much input as possible, and will add whatever info I should have added but didn't! I am set to plant this bad girl TODAY, I am pretty sure that's alright, right? I have my soil, my box, and my lights - now I guess I just need to plant and go, and follow you fine people's input when it comes time for flower? Or am I wrong? Anything I should change about that soil? Does it NEED the perlite, should I do it for sure, or just consider it? Thank you so much in advance, I love you all.

Grow Love,
-Brian.
 

~Dankster~420

Well-Known Member
Advanced Nutrients! (Flora Series). I found this stuff a run back, and my plants LOVE IT! You get the entire lineup in a "starter" box on amazon.com for like 35$ the last time I purchased it.. ;)
 

Jeffdogg

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Advanced Nutrients! (Flora Series). I found this stuff a run back, and my plants LOVE IT! You get the entire lineup in a "starter" box on amazon.com for like 35$ the last time I purchased it.. ;)
An flora series? I have 85% of AN products and never heard of it. General Hydroponics has a flora series, was that who you meant? AN has the GMB and sensi boxes were one of those what you meant?

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/nutrients/ (I used the flora nova for my first grow but not the original flora series.)

Grow Micro Bloom PH Perfect
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/grow_micro_bloom/grow_micro_bloom_product_information.php (what i use now, kinda nice never having to worry about PH. Cant remember the last time i checked :) )
 

~Dankster~420

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Yes. I was super fucked up & tripping when I replyd to tthis! It is the GH (Flora Series). My plants eat that shit up!
http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/nutrients/flora_series/floraseries_performance_pack/
That's the link to it, but I had purchased my start up box off amazon.




An flora series? I have 85% of AN products and never heard of it. General Hydroponics has a flora series, was that who you meant? AN has the GMB and sensi boxes were one of those what you meant?

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/nutrients/ (I used the flora nova for my first grow but not the original flora series.)

Grow Micro Bloom PH Perfect
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/grow_micro_bloom/grow_micro_bloom_product_information.php (what i use now, kinda nice never having to worry about PH. Cant remember the last time i checked :) )
 

~Dankster~420

Well-Known Member
Flora is very good as well, i've used the flora nova 2 part and didnt have any complaints.


Yup, I hear ya bro! ;) I really like um, & so do the girls... and that's all that counts, rigght...? ;)
Good Lord, you wouldn't believe how many different nutrients I've tried out within the past 6 months or so!! Its a good thing that I could talk to these "nute companies" & get um to agree to send me free nutrients! ;) Hell bro, even some of them sent there entire lineup! General Organics was 1 of them! alittle off topic, but I received a bran "new" 800 watt LED system all for sending anemail to a LED company & asked the rep if I could do a "vs" test run with there system vs my HPS or MH system! Well, I couldn't believe it when I had an email inbox telling me he was packing it up, and it would be here in around a week or so! Well, I thought it was bs ya know!? Cause hell I've never herd of a comapny like that just "giving" a high $ system like that away for FREE! Well I returned home that day & had a package on the front porch!! :mrgreen: I was so stoked about it! And still can't believe it to a point! Boy I'm glad I sent that company an email, I know that.. ;)
 

Brian.

Member
I like all of your posts, but where do they actually help me? Like, where is the input on my actual post? lol.
 

Jeffdogg

Well-Known Member
Well the floranova series will be very good for ya, easy to use. PH buffered, organic, and not too expensive. As I mentioned I use Advanced Nutrients, they are a little expensive but you see results. W/e you choose make sure you dilute the dial down the strength to about 1/4 and gradually work your way up. I have a thread on here ill post that has alot of great info including feeding tips.

Does it NEED the perlite, should I do it for sure, or just consider it?
Yes most of us would advise so.
In horticulture, perlite can be used as a soil amendment or alone as a medium for hydroponics or for starting cuttings. When used as an amendment it has high permeability / low water retention and helps prevent soil compaction.

https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/652871-advanced-autoflower-training-tips-secrets.html
 

~Dankster~420

Well-Known Member
this is what i use http://www.horticulturesource.com/product_info.php?products_id=248 minus the b-1 thrive alives
and 50/50 soil perlite is a good spot to be at if you use 1/3 perlite then you would want to hold off on the nutes until week 4 or so with 50/50 i usually start 1/4 nutes at 2-3 weeks or a good show of preflower
I had used these and honestly didn't have much luck with them.. I had followed the directions exactly the way directed, and still not the best results.. I had searched high & low for nutes that my plants produced good results with, and spent a shit ton of dough before finding the Flora Series.. ;)
I've herd good things about Heavy 16 nutes lineup..
 

BeastGrow

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inexpensive Jacks Classic all purpose 20-20-20 is rocking for my plants...
1:1 Promix HP:Fox Farm Ocean Forest. beautiful consistency, good drainage, enough nutrients for 1+ months.. also added lime for calcium and epsom salts for magnesium. some extra worm castings for nitrogen helps too.
 
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