About HomoSexuality

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
I'm repping you.:mrgreen:
So....in short, you are saying that priests CHOOSE to molest little boys and sheep choose to be homosexual out of failure to follow truth. Damn those atheist wool covered creatures...how dare they! What would jesus say? Are you also denying fossils? Those who have to go to a pot website and attempt to decipher the reasons for homosexuality, are most certainly attempting to justify the feelings within themselves. Darlin, pull out those pink stillettos, grab your poppers, throw down that bible and hit the dance floor. I am certain there is a big furry queen out there who would love to spend an evening showing you how you really feel. A final word of advice. If you don't like homosexuals....don't be one.:peace:
 

chuckbane

New Member
whether or not a person is born a homosexual is not the matter at hand. I don't know and neither does anyone else.

The matter at hand is we, humans, have the freedom of choice. And as long as that choice does not affect another person in a negative way they should be able to choose whatever lifestyle they please.

Its me again Prophet. And even though homosexuals make me uncomfortable and I do not fully understand why they are the way they are, I still let them choose.

I'm going to tell you one more time.

Back you religious bullshit off and hit the trails. there are plenty of religious forums for you to spread your hate, dont bring it amongst stoners who believe in the right to choose.
 

sarah22

Well-Known Member
i have a question for prophecy...and i want you to type out an answer directly related to my question, not copy and paste some stupid BS...do u think its wrong and gay and stuff of me to go to the titty bar? cuz im a chick? im not bi or lesbian, but theres nothing wrong with admiring hot naked women wrapped around a pole...what say u?
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
Homosexuality is not a strictly human characteristic. It has been well documented in the aminal kingdom. Does free will apply here, too?

If homosexuality is a choice, why would anyone choose to be hated, persecuted, and discriminated against?

I would estimate that more people choose not to be gay by the high percentage of homophobes in the world. 80% of homophobes are either latent homosexuals or desperately afraid they are homosexuals.
 

chuckbane

New Member
Homosexuality is not a strictly human characteristic. It has been well documented in the aminal kingdom. Does free will apply here, too?

If homosexuality is a choice, why would anyone choose to be hated, persecuted, and discriminated against?

I would estimate that more people choose not to be gay by the high percentage of homophobes in the world. 80% of homophobes are either latent homosexuals or desperately afraid they are homosexuals.
"80% of homophobes are either latent homosexuals or desperately afraid they are homosexuals"

could i see the reference for this statistic please johnny?
 

chuckbane

New Member
"[FONT=Geneva,Arial]Research by US psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings."

i can suggest you are a dipshit. does it make it true?
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Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
"[FONT=Geneva,Arial]Research by US psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings."[/FONT]

[FONT=Geneva,Arial]i can suggest you are a dipshit. does it make it true?[/FONT]
This is JohnnyOrganic trying very hard to abide by the rule of no personal attacks.

What was the point of that? Do you really want to fight that bad?

Look everyone! An Internet Badass.

Boy am I intimidated. :roll:

What you are actually suggesting is that you are an ogre.
 

chuckbane

New Member
This is JohnnyOrganic trying very hard to abide by the rule of no personal attacks.

What was the point of that? Do you really want to fight that bad?

Look everyone! An Internet Badass.

Boy am I intimidated. :roll:

What you are actually suggesting is that you are an ogre.

no badass, here,, im a softie really! :D:D

moral of the story is,

Take everything you read with a grain of salt.

and maybe a shot of tequilla,, or right,, only poor people drink right Johnny?
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
no badass, here,, im a softie really! :D:D

moral of the story is,

Take everything you read with a grain of salt.?
Refute the source I provided and I'll consider it. An article about Borat won't cut it. But you know that already, don't you?
and maybe a shot of tequilla,, or right,, only poor people drink right Johnny?
Wrong. I said no such thing (in another thread unrelated to this topic). People of all socioeconomic levels drink alcohol. What I said was that poor people use public assistance (welfare) money to buy their drinky. And smokes and lottery tickets.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
"[FONT=Geneva,Arial]Research by US psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings."[/FONT]
That's not a refutation. That's you quibbling over one word in one sentence selectively removed from the entire source document. It is a diversionary tactic and does not alter my point one bit.

I'll include the entire document since you seem fixated on the first sentence.

Research by US psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings. This finding lends scientific support to the long-standing speculation that those who shout the loudest against homosexuality have something to hide.

The research results were published in the prestigious Journal of Abnormal Psychology, with the backing of the American Psychological Association.

In tests conducted by Prof. Henry E Adams of the University of Georgia, homophobic men who said they were exclusively heterosexual were shown gay sex videos. Four out of five became sexually aroused by the homoerotic imagery, as recorded by a penile circumference measuring device - a plethysmograph.

Prof. Adams says his research shows that most homophobes "demonstrate significant sexual arousal to homosexual erotic stimuli", suggesting that homophobia is a form of "latent homosexuality where persons are either unaware of or deny their homosexual urges".

These findings have prompted the gay rights group OutRage! to write to a cross-section of 20 homophobic MPs challenging them to take Prof. Adams's test to counter suggestions that their anti-gay voting record might be evidence of repressed homosexuality.

"We're inviting the MPs to get their honourable members tested", says Marina Cronin of OutRage! "Some doctors are getting us a plethysmograph and they're willing to help us administer the test".

The MPs OutRage! has written to include many of the usual suspects: Matthew Banks, Henry Bellingham, Rhodes Boyson, Sebastian Coe, Terry Dicks, Nigel Evans, Michael Forsyth, Harry Greenway, Edward Heath, Michael Heseltine, Peter Lilley, Tony Marlow, James Molyneaux, Fergus Montgomery, Ian Paisley, John Patten, Michael Portillo, John Redwood, Richard Shepherd and David Wilshire. All these MPs voted against an equal age of consent in 1994.

Citing Prof. Adams's experiments, the OutRage! letter to MPs says: "In view of this research and your homophobic voting record, there is now bound to be speculation about your sexuality. We are sure this speculation is without foundation, but to end the innuendo that you might harbour homosexual feelings, we invite you to take Prof. Adams's test. Under medical supervision, OutRage! is offering to wire you to a penile circumference measuring device and show you gay sex videos. If you are not gay, there will be no penile enlargement and you will have strong scientific evidence to dispel any queries about your sexual orientation. We invite you to contact us to make an appointment at your earliest convenience".

So far, no MPs have accepted the OutRage! challenge. What are they afraid of? Their unwillingness to get tested leaves them open to the allegation that they have a sexual secret which they don't want anyone else to know about.

Perhaps their reticence is just as well. It will, after all, spare OutRage! the gut-wrenching task of wiring up the genitalia of these odious homophobes. I mean, would you want to be the poor sod who has to fix a plethysmograph to the willy of Ian Paisley? I've heard of sacrifices for the sake of gay rights, but surely such a task is asking too much of even the most dedicated activist?

Prof. Adams's research is the first serious scientific study to confirm the old adage that homophobia is an expression of self-hating, repressed homosexuality. Progressive schools of psychoanalysis have long theorised that homophobic prejudice involves the projection of fear and disgust concerning one's own homosexuality onto others. Those who cannot accept their same-sex desires, so the theory goes, vent their self-loathing through attacks on other people's homosexuality.

This homophobic defence mechanism is also often a bizarre form of over-compensation: maladjusted lesbians and gay men who feel guilty about their homosexuality become stridently anti-gay as way of compensating emotionally for their guilt and shame.

In other cases, ostentatious homophobia is a deliberate psychological ploy to deflect suspicions and rumours of homosexuality. This ruse is based on the assumption that if someone is very obviously homophobic other people would be less inclined believe they were gay.

Prof. Adams tested a group of men who expressed homophobic attitudes, and who said they were exclusively heterosexual and had never had any homosexual experiences or fantasies. He wired these men to a plethysmograph. This is a calibrated, elasticated band which is fitted around the penis and detects any change in its size. Prof. Adams then showed the men three sets of sexually-explicit videos: heterosexual, lesbian and gay male.

In response to the gay sex videos, Prof. Adams found that 20 percent of the homophobic men showed no erection, 26 percent showed moderate erection, and 54 percent showed strong erection. By comparison, a control group of non-homophobic straight men produced very different reactions: 66 percent didn't get aroused, 10 percent got slightly turned on, and 24 percent had definite hard-ons.

The response to the heterosexual video was also interesting. The homophobic group got less aroused by the heterosexual porn flicks than the non-homophobic group; which suggests that homophobia correlates with dysfunctional heterosexuality and impaired heterosexual erotic capability.

There was also a significant disparity between the claimed lack of sexual arousal by the homophobic men and the reality that most of them got some degree of erection. When viewing the gay sex videos, the homophobic men consistently underestimated their state of erotic excitement, as measured by the plethysmograph. Prof. Adams's notes that the men's "verbal judgements are not consistent with physiological activity". In other words, the homophobes were in deep denial about their homosexual attraction.

From this evidence, Prof. Adams concludes that homophobia is an individual's inability to cope with his "own homosexual impulses". The findings concur, he says, with theories that hostility to gay people is a form of sub-conscious, distorted homosexuality, and that anti-gay attitudes indicate fear and loathing of one's own inner, suppressed homosexual desires.

This research is political dynamite. As OutRage! has already demonstrated with the letter to MPs, it can be used very effectively to ridicule and embarrass homophobes; deflating their bigotry by casting doubt on their heterosexuality.

I nowadays always make a point of referring to Prof. Adams's research when doing talks in schools. It stops homophobic pupils in their tracks. Previously loud-mouthed bigots suddenly go quiet. One teacher told me that the level of homophobic banter in the classroom had declined significantly since my revelations about Prof. Adams's findings. What a pleasing thought. Thank you Prof. Adams.
A refutation would involve you disproving the point made by the entire source. I refer specifically to the study conducted which showed that 4 out of 5 homophobes (80%) sported wood when watching gay porn. :o

Since you were good enough to request a source for my point, please don't neglect to include your own source when attempting to refute mine.
 

chuckbane

New Member
That's not a refutation. That's you quibbling over one word in one sentence selectively removed from the entire source document. It is a diversionary tactic and does not alter my point one bit.

I'll include the entire document since you seem fixated on the first sentence.



A refutation would involve you disproving the point made by the entire source. I refer specifically to the study conducted which showed that 4 out of 5 homophobes (80%) sported wood when watching gay porn. :o

Since you were good enough to request a source for my point, please don't neglect to include your own source when attempting to refute mine.
i suggest you dont know what you are talking about

:D
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
This is hilarious.

I make a point.

You ask for the source. I provide the source. You cannot refute the source.

This is the best you can come up with.
i suggest you dont know what you are talking about
Brilliant! Do you have reams of research data conducted by experts to back up your suggestion?

Your puerile debate methods are useless against JohnnyOrganic. Your stupid little insults bounce off me like whiffle balls.

I would advise you to bring your "A" game against me next time, but you don't have one. Apparently what you have provided thus far is all you have to offer.

:twisted:
 

chuckbane

New Member
Your stupid little insults bounce off me like whiffle balls.
I am rubber you are glue, insults bounce of me and stick to you

:D:D

are you a homophob?

because I was raised to be one. And I will tell you every time I stick my cock inside of my womans vagina i know I'm straight.
In fact, most of my generation are homophobs because thats how they were raised.
Back when calling someone a "fag" was an insult and not hate speech.


Chuck's research suggests you should not make wild accusations.
I pity the the fool who believes everything he reads.
chuck can use BRAINPOWER!!!!!
(if you want to speak in third person for the effect...)
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
I am rubber you are glue, insults bounce of me and stick to you
Then there is no question as to exactly who is a 'dipshit' and precisely who does not know what he is talking about.
are you a homophob?

because I was raised to be one. And I will tell you every time I stick my cock inside of my womans vagina i know I'm straight.
In fact, most of my generation are homophobs because thats how they were raised.
Back when calling someone a "fag" was an insult and not hate speech.
In that case, I've got some shocking news for 80% of your 'generation.' If one's views evolve, as happens to most people when they leave home and think for themselves, homophobia is not an issue.
Chuck's research suggests you should not make wild accusations.
I pity the the fool who believes everything he reads.
chuck can use BRAINPOWER!!!!!
(if you want to speak in third person for the effect...)
What wild accusation? I made made a statement and I backed it up with a source, at your request. A source which has not been refuted by you or anyone else. You don't like it? Fine. You disagree? Fine. But can you refute it? You have been laughably unable to do so thus far.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. JohnnyOrganic says THANK YOU! +rep.
 

ToastedFox

Well-Known Member
This is JohnnyOrganic trying very hard to abide by the rule of no personal attacks.

What was the point of that? Do you really want to fight that bad?

Look everyone! An Internet Badass.

Boy am I intimidated. :roll:

What you are actually suggesting is that you are an ogre.

Guess he hasn't heard of the Kinsey Reports...


But also people fear and insult what they don't understand a lot of the time.
 
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