Abortion.

The Cryptkeeper said:

It's a joint decision...

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...yep, they could have a joint together and consider the avenues... if she weren't pregnant! Man must carry this burden alone...

Agreed... but!

If you believe in God & his plan than the child was Gods intention in the first place. I believe that no child is an accident, therefore you would be going against Gods will having the abortion.

With this logic there are 2 victims. The woman that was raped/abused etc & then the child. Because an atrocity was done to one person, the other person who is affected by it shouldn't be punished.

This is the same logic that the rebels in Libya want Qaddafi's family (wife & kids) all put to death as well, because their father's an asshole??


Although I am VERY pro life.. I can at least, although not agree with, understand the logic behind abortion due to these circumstances.

Morgan Lynn said:

If a sexually abused woman was not legally allowed to medically terminate her pregnancy it would make the rape seem validated. It's like saying "we don't care why/how/or when you were raped, we just care about that underdeveloped collaboration of cells, tissues, and chromosomes that you don't want inside you."

I love how people try to make the womb this sacred place that should never be tampered with. There are billions of wombs and uteruses on this planet. They aren't sacred anymore. We are not in dire need of procreation; we're in dire need of less procreation. A woman who is raped is not going to wait 20 weeks to figure out she wants an abortion. She wants it out and she wants it out now.

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GOD DAMN'T! Are you people STILL saying 'child'?! Religious freaks are crazy but goddamn come on...

carl.burnette said:

Agreed... but!

If you believe in God & his plan than the child was Gods intention in the first place. I believe that no child is an accident, therefore you would be going against Gods will having the abortion.

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If you believe in god's plan, you don't think that every abortion that happens isn't part of his plan? God knows everything before it happens, he knows what you're thinking, and he knows what you will think before you think it, so how could he not know that some people would get abortions? If fact, how wouldn't god know that abortions would happen before he even made existence? God literally knows everything....

So, I'm not sure I see your logic...

carl.burnette said:

With this logic there are 2 victims. The woman that was raped/abused etc & then the child. Because an atrocity was done to one person, the other person who is affected by it shouldn't be punished.

This is the same logic that the rebels in Libya want Qaddafi's family (wife & kids) all put to death as well, because their father's an asshole??


Although I am VERY pro life.. I can at least, although not agree with, understand the logic behind abortion due to these circumstances.

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Nope, one victim. The woman.

The cells inside her aren't a person. Qaddafi's family are clearly people. Apples and oranges...

Beefbisquit said:

Nope, one victim. The woman.

The cells inside her aren't a person. Qaddafi's family are clearly people. Apples and oranges...

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Gadaffi, with a G.

And his family are just as fucked in the head as him...but it doesn't matter anyways, they're basically all dead now anyways.

Harrekin said:

Gadaffi, with a G.

And his family are just as fucked in the head as him...but it doesn't matter anyways, they're basically all dead now anyways.

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That'll teach me to C&P lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM&t=3m12s

Wow it just wouldn't let me embed that for some reason.... George Carlin on abortion

BudDub said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM&t=3m12s

Wow it just wouldn't let me embed that for some reason.... George Carlin on abortion

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3:29 errrrrch.

...if your buddy, uncle, etc. is on the way, is he alive?

*don't get me wrong, the first many minutes of this video are soooo fkcn accurate.

eye exaggerate said:

3:29 errrrrch.

...if your buddy, uncle, etc. is on the way, is he alive?

*don't get me wrong, the first many minutes of this video are soooo fkcn accurate.

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Haven't you learned yet. You can't argue with George Carlin. He's so evidently the second coming, god on Earth.

eye exaggerate said:

3:29 errrrrch.

...if your buddy, uncle, etc. is on the way, is he alive?

*don't get me wrong, the first many minutes of this video are soooo fkcn accurate.

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Well this is what your saying....'if my wife was pregnant then my son is alive'. I say "Why do the majority of women that have miscarriages refuse to have a funeral considering by your definition that baby is already alive?"

Dude. It's alive alright. It's just not a person. It's a fucking fetus. An amalgamation of reproductive cells..

BudDub said:

Well this is what your saying....'if my wife was pregnant then my son is alive'. I say "Why do the majority of women that have miscarriages refuse to have a funeral considering by your definition that baby is already alive?"

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...I was replying to the joke itself. I like this guy, no worries there. I'm really not quite awake and more or less fooling around - gimme 20

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

take if for what you will but this is the reason so many stand in opposition to abortion. Most do not feel that it is there duty to instruct others in right and wrong but rather it is felt that to stand aside and do nothing would be the same as watching a murder or robbery and standing to the side and simply watching. Weather you agree or disagree the reasoning is not purely directed at the removal of rights from a group of ppl as many seen to think it is. If the prize being competed for was anything other than the future of an innocent human life then i feel the opposition would not exist much less press its will upon others. would you like everyone to completely remove themselves from the business of everyone else? who will stand up for your rights when you are being robbed raped or killed in the future or will you gladly stand alone then, and hope everyone minds there own business..... its not the ppl supporting abortion who will come to your aid, is it not there right to rob rape or kill you if they are able to, just as its your right to do what ever you want to the weak child inside of you, it will be the same ppl who are standing up for you then that are standing against you now and will continue to stand against evil no matter how it presents itself. not matter what side you stand on on individual matters there will always be those who stand up for no other reason than to prevent the victory of evil and that which we currently define as wrong (the definition of wrong has changed many times over time and most certainly will change again in the near future, and we must ask what will we consider wrong then, will murder, robbery, or rape be considered acceptable or simply frowned upon? are your hopes and plans the most extrema? where do you draw the line? the line between right and wrong has grown into a crater or canyon in which nearly all moral decisions are cast in modern america, how big will it grow?).

BudDub said:

Well this is what your saying....'if my wife was pregnant then my son is alive'. I say "Why do the majority of women that have miscarriages refuse to have a funeral considering by your definition that baby is already alive?"

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...I'd say those funerals are held 'within' the woman.

eye exaggerate said:

...I'd say those funerals are held 'within' the woman.

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You act like nothing comes out....

BudDub said:

You act like nothing comes out....

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...with respect to women here who may have had one, re-read my post. And then we'll purposely derail this.

The land of the free isn't the land of the free when you stick your noes in others business and try to control their lives.

The Cryptkeeper said:

The land of the free isn't the land of the free when you stick your noes in others business and try to control their lives.

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I agree with this. Even if abortion was made illegal it would still happen. Why put young girls at risk (back alley abortions) because you don't like the idea of what there doing?