AACT + fish emulsion foliar in wk2 flower

Oh and this is what my AACT looks like at 48hrs -

48hr AACT.jpg

It's water + compost + air, +48hrs + volcanic rock dust+ fulvic acid (0.2mL/L x 0.4%) + seasol kelp extract (0.2mL/L) + fish compost extract (0.2mL/L).

smells so sweet/spicy/earthy - it can't be wrong
 
Oh wise ones... :P

Can you use the soaking fluid from an SST without blending the sprouts? In other words is there enough useful biological activity in the soaking fluid alone?

I am considering sowing the alfalfa in the yard so I can harvest fresh alfalfa for nutrient teas etc in the future... and this way my plants can stay vegan and not turn into cannibals...

TIA
 
Okay quickly....

http://rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/redox-reaction-fermentaion-and-aerobic-scum-notes.31410/



I left a blog post of my last notes....Warning: I haven't updated in a bit and some is conjointed, but lots of info.....


the thing about fermenting I am most curious about is ability to use less energy to "free" nutrients versus aerobic method [compost is one example]

I need to find the citation, but it is from a Washington State University paper, stating that fermented processes use about 4 times less caloric energy than aerobic digesting process.
 
Thank you so much guys!!!

The babes are looking crash hot and beautifully green, I wouldn't have been able to put all this AACT/SST/nute tea stuff together without your help, and the plants are thanking you, as am I.

@Abiqua on fermentation:

Thank you for the notes dump - bits and pieces are coming back to me from my uni days.

As I understand it you are saying that anaerobic decomposition leaves more carbon/hydrogen bonds unbroken and hence more energy and more complex molecules remain in the fermented product whereas in aerobic decomposition the microorganisms extract more of the energy and oxidise more of the C-H bonds = more fully breaks the substrate down?

Whats the implication for the nutritive value of an FPE? I interpret it as there is more of the complex biomolecules preserved as opposed to being burnt up in aerobic decomposition.

Whats the practical application of this, I haven't been able to understand anything further that.
 
@Abiqua on fermentation:
Thank you for the notes dump - bits and pieces are coming back to me from my uni days.

As I understand it you are saying that anaerobic decomposition leaves more carbon/hydrogen bonds unbroken and hence more energy and more complex molecules remain in the fermented product whereas in aerobic decomposition the microorganisms extract more of the energy and oxidise more of the C-H bonds = more fully breaks the substrate down?

Whats the implication for the nutritive value of an FPE? I interpret it as there is more of the complex biomolecules preserved as opposed to being burnt up in aerobic decomposition.

Whats the practical application of this, I haven't been able to understand anything further that.


Admittedly, there is much to research before any solid conclusions...but...

One thing of mention is the production of organic acids and other metabolites....from just the studies conducted on fermented foods, the array of metabolites produced by microlife in fermented solutions is vast and with every new study they seem to discover a new metabolite....The end product of silage seems to attest to this fact as well...provide it with abundant microlife and the nutrient content seems to increase over just an aerobic drying [rett].....

And yes, the energy issue is also key because of some factors related to breaking down of compounds to the their simplest form....So it is not necessarily that fermentation breaks down more easily from sheer force [less oxidation, more reduction] , it is that the pathway seems to utilize energy more efficiently and altogether eliminates some of the process that aerobic organisms have to use to achieve the same effect in breaking down or utilizing compounds....

For example it might be easier to digest plant material [cellulose and especially lignin] in a anaerobic environment where I believe they can convert to monosaccharides [fructose, glucose] as a direct end product and then you might be able to finish the end product aerobically....

As I understand the process in aerobic composting is that part of the energy usage is due to the fact that aerobic microlife don't seem to be as efficient as breaking down plant material directly into monosaccharides, they have first convert it into a polysaccharide like sucrose 1st, then disassociate into mono sugars, in a whole another step which consumes energy......this is one reason I stopped using blackstrap as a tea..as it would create excess foam....

even though oxygen isn't present in anaerobic environments, it still is supplied elementally from broken down compounds....so breaking down polysaccharides in anaerobic environments doesn't seem to rely solely on oxygen uptake, but in an aerobic environment, organisms are measured on the their BOD, biochemical oxygen deman...and I think that in teas, microbes, break down initially the blackstrap into monosaccharides, but then run out of oxygen to now use and eat the mono sugars they have produced......just my opinion at this point.....




The main area I seem to lack solid understanding in
 
ps I edited heavily after posting my link.....so I did make it a little less spacey....I hope :peace:

another last minute edit:

I forgot the most important reason, although at this point this is strictly opinion, based on some good experience and some facts which may or may not work to my theories advantage...

FPE can be used as fertilizer, but it can be used as The fertilizer, maybe even replacing the benefits of compost tea and providing available nutrients at the same time....

But a lot of unknown lies ahead, just within the last few years, actinomycetes were just classified separate from Bacteria into essentially their own Kingdom? These critters may hold a better understanding, one reason is they seem to be the king of faculatives, as they can go between aerobic and anaerobic environments like yeasts, but can tolerate and thrive in either condition....

and how often do you hear peeps bring up actinomycetes [providers of the smell of humus [soil]
 
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how often do you hear peeps bring up actinomycetes [providers of the smell of humus [soil]

wikipedia says -
"Actinobacteria, especially Streptomyces sp., are recognized as the producers of many bioactive metabolites that are useful to humans in medicine, such as antibacterials,[9] antifungals,[10] antivirals, antithrombotics, immunomodifiers, anti-tumor drugs and enzyme inhibitors; and in agriculture, including insecticides, herbicides, fungicides and growth promoting substances for plants and animals.[11][12] Actinobacteria-derived antibiotics that are important in medicine include aminoglycosides, anthracyclines, chloramphenicol, macrolide, tetracyclines etc.

Streptomyces and other actinobacteria are major contributors to biological buffering of soils and have roles in organic matter decomposition conductive to crop production"

I guess they're pretty important then.

It also makes me worry what we are doing to our microbiological diversity/ecological balance by pissing antibiotics into the water supply all around the world.
 
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