A newb that's finally learning - my mistakes:

Fykshun

Active Member
Hola RIU newbs (and bored pros),

Just thought I'd post a few practical newb lessons here and there. I am not a pro or even a novice, I'm a newb that has grown for a few years and I'm finally learning a thing or two and want to share my bonehead mistakes.

Firstly, I'm one of those guys that's smoked for longer than I care to admit, now have access to good cash flow, and thought that buying a plant to health was doable. I pieced together a whole setup in one shot and read the first reputable thread I could to assemble it (not that I knew a shit about anything).

First the setup, and then I'll tell you all about what I've done wrong in the past:

Simple Drain to Waste DWC in two 5gal buckets; 10" net pots with hydroton (clay balls) and rockwool cube.
Currently a pair of TGA Subcool Qrazy Train clones
Pac NW tap water is fantastic - I use it after overnight natural off-gassing of chlorine & fluoride
3 part GH Flora Series with FloraBlend, Floraliscious Plus, and Liquid KoolBloom - all measurements from GH iPhone application calculator
I no longer use H2O2

1 Secret Jardin DR120 II (Pro) - 4' X 4' X 6.5'
1 400w MH/HPS switchable digi ballast
1 6" Cooltube w/ wide reflector
1 6" CanFan (290 cfm) and rate matched carbon filter (fan on a speed controller)
1 70w air pump with 8 line splitter (4 lines per bucket; 2" blue cylinders on all)
1 smaller air pump (watts? - 30 or 40) with 6 line splitter (2 in use; 1 per bucket on tp-down drip rings - small timed cycles if plant's look like it's needed only)
1 Holmes adjustable oscillating tower fan - pointed to back of tent
A hygrometer and a portable heater (Pac NW US climates are wet and 40s / 50s in winter, 80s are high in summer)
I do use a BlueLab Truncheon to measure PPM and I use both a digital pH meter and the old fashioned liquid in a vile - digi for a week, then test with liquid to ensure the digi isn't going wonky on me - and yes, I calibrate with proper liquids, just less frequently.

My setup is in an insulated house-attached space with plenty of passive intake; my CanFan exhausts through a 6" vent to the outside - so an open system (no supplemental CO2)

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So, I won't bore you death too much, so I'll start at the beginning, and trickle out the mistakes in short simple bursts:


The first mistake:

1.) I read, read, read, read, and read this damn forum, and never once listened to my plants. I got good advice, bad advice, I misinterpreted advice, I failed to pose clear questions and supply clear descriptions of my grow and grow space, but I nevertheless kept fucking with my system daily without listening to my plants and without ever letting the reservoirs just settle down.

The things I just wouldn't leave alone:
pH'ing - all the time to try and hit 5.6 or 5.7 - I never let it swing from 5.5 to 6.5, and therefor never let my roots rest in the natural swing through available nutrients, I just kept locking them up through pH fluctuation stress, which means ROOT ROT

H2O2 - I never read about it, I never understood how it interacted with organic material, i never new what a sterile versus organic DWC reservoir was, and therefor I kept killing naturally occurring good bacteria on roots and feeding the bad ones in a confused reservoir, which means ROOT ROT

Fans - I added oscillating fans, moved them daily, got a tower fan, took them all out, pointed them up, down, at, away...all the effing time - I sped up my exhaust, I slowed it down, I got HEPA covers for my passive intake, etc...BUT I never just let the damn things be

So, bottom line for this first entry of mine, is this important lesson:

HAVE PATIENCE, let your plants chill out in a steady environment that can be analyzed one component at a time, and then make small adjustments to one component at a time only after seeking solid advice from someone you trust that can show you images to compare one problem at a time.

This is only the beginning of my flaws...I will share more.

Peace
 

zubey91

Well-Known Member
Me too... Lol. Patience is the key the whole grow... Til the very end! One thing i didn't realize.. You need at least a month after harvest to get the best cured bud..
 

Fykshun

Active Member
Wow - I started this not a minute too soon; I finally have my grow dialed in with only a GH 3 part flora series, nothing else, and just when I've made my point about monitoring one thing at a time, I decided to finally try additives.

I did a res change on Sunday and added floraliscious plus and florablend for the first time. I've heard that running a sterile dwc is better for a newb than messing with organic material (which I'm led to believe the additives I tried are), and I think the advice is spot on. Even though my reservoirs are between 65 and 68 degrees, with roughly 35w of forced air, and even though my roots were white and smelled like fresh alfalfa on Saturday, they were already turning brown and smelled like a wet dishrag by this evening.

Needless to say, I bathed them down in H2o2 and replaced their reservoirs entirely, removing dying roots first, then added only 3 part again - no additives.

My point? I was able to asses a single change in the grow and easily rectify the situation, AND I can prevent it knowingly in the future. This is something that would have driven me batshit crazy in the past, because I would have changed so many factors at once, I wouldn't have been able to guess at what the hell caused the problem.

And one last note - I do not believe that it is wrong or impossible to grow organic dwc, I just don't think that I or my current setup are up for the challenge.

Peace
 

Ghettobird209

Active Member
exact a mundo patience is virtue.

ima first time grower as well and (in a way hahaha) luckily have been over whelmed with things to do daily for work i didnt have time to think (or as i like to say "tweak" lol) on my plants, i barley even remembered to water the girls. One morning woke up before having to leave for work and peered in on my plants and noticed two of my plants were looking like they were dead!!! seriously every singly leaf was completely down no life in them at all, i didnt even pick up my buckets i just touched the soil and it felt as if it was sand and i knew "shit i didnt water" Watered them and within a hour they where perking like a dildo. Point being, paitence and a little bit of attention to keep em alive!!!!!:leaf:
 
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