A little but of confusion on nutrients for Coco

Hello, I have a big block of CocoGro I plan to be transplanting into soon. I bought the house and garden Cocos A and B base nutrients... but now im thinking this doesnt really make any sense...

I am not sure if this is possible but what I have been planning to do is grow my plants in straight coco or possiby a 15% perlite 85% coco mix and since there are no nutrients in either of those mediums I would be feeding them all the nutes myself during watering. But can you do this without having some sort of hydro setup? I was thinking I would just water the coco and leave it for a few days till its getting drier and water again and so forth just as you would with soil. I think the Coco A and B nutrients were not designed for this, they were designed for running in a res doing hydro, so the nutrient ratios are going to be different and possibly build up to dangerous levels within the coco between waterings if i let it dry out like this. Have there been people watering their coco like you would with soil and having good results and what nutrients are recomended for doing so?

is this something to be worried about? I may just come up with a simple hydro setup to avoid this

Thank you, I hope this question isnt too confusing

of course where u been? lol try google just throw 5 ml in a gallon for small seedlings or clones. then work ur way up to ten ml. A for veg B for bloom lol

A for veg B for Bloom? really? the house and garden website says you use both throughout the grow and the guy at the hydro store told me they are only separate because some nutrients break other nutrients down. You sure about that? its cocos A & cocos B House and Garden

I see Jigfresh watered his coco like this and his crop was really nice so it must be possible. But if you think of it you put say 1 liter into a pot, that liter dries over time to about 100ml and you have all of the nutrients that the plant did not absorb concentrated into into 1/10 of the water. so if they plant uses 50% of the nutrients and you start with a ppm of 1000... You end with a PPM of 5000. its obviously a real issue but somehow Im seeing people pull it off with no problems

Theres Zero phosphorous in cocos A. If I fed with just cocos A my plants wouldnt make it to bloom

just flush ur plants every other watering to break down salt build up ull b fine

a true flush or can I just have a 20% runoff every watering? maybe get some drip clean?

u can use the 20% for sure run off every watering!

Thedillestpickle said:

But can you do this without having some sort of hydro setup? I was thinking I would just water the coco and leave it for a few days till its getting drier and water again and so forth just as you would with soil.

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exactly. your coco nutes should be great for this. i've been using coco for five or six years and have been doing primarily botanicare's line, though i don't claim it's any better than other top brands. just water like you would with soil, and as a plus it will dry out quicker. since all your nutes are iin the water you apply to the medium, using coco is a form of hydro.

as for the A meaning veg and B meaning bloom -- you got to be careful with that kind of thinking because there are many base nutrients out there (like house and garden A & B i believe) that are meant to be used in conjunction, two separate bottles for a veg cycle, and two separate bottles for a bloom, or in this case, two separate bottles for the entire cycle. i'm not sure that these nutes are that case, but what quick research i just did it seemed to appear that way-- dillpickle, you should study the feeding chart online to get a good idea of the ratios of nutes to use. i'd recommend looking in to some bloom enhancers for later in the flower cycle.

Yea it sounds like I will have to get something to boost that mix during flower, The one bottle has about 4 times more nitrogen in it than the other(not actually looking at the bottle right now but it was something around there) and I am thinking I will use a bit less from that bottle during flower, maybe half? dont want to cut the plant off from the othe nutrients in that bottle though, Or I might ease into a completely different line of nutrients for flower, is this recommended or does switching nutrient lines sometimes shock a plant? I am surprized its a veg and flower(it is I looked at the charts online) mix because I asked the hydro guy for the best stuff I could get and thats what he offered. It doesnt sound ideal to run the same nutes for flower as for vegg.

Also I will trust that this is safe to do without running hydro because it seems alot of people are doing it susessfully, though it does sortof baffle me when I do my math and calculate that if the plant uses only 50% of the nutrients than youd be running your PPM in the coco close to 5000ppm when the coco starts to get dry. Regardless if you flush every feed, my point is still valid, but Im just going to take everyones experience as proof that its safe. Maybe the answer is that the plant is in fact sucking out more than 50% of the nutes? maybe its sucking out alot more nutes than I was expecting. If thats the case than accidentally letting your Ph drift out of the safe zone could be like sudden death for that plant(the nutes wont be absorbed thus staying in the water in the coco as the pot dries and quickly raising the ppm)