a god is as likely as a unicorn.

ganja man23

ganja man23

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God isn't about probability it's about existence and it's inevitability. Unicorns exist within god just not in the reality of most humans. The guy above me speaks of fear and your response is based solely upon fear since you have convinced yourself that there isn't any meaning to life (which there isn't in most aspects). What could be scarier then that?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ganja man23 said:
God isn't about probability it's about existence and it's inevitability. Unicorns exist within god just not in the reality of most humans. The guy above me speaks of fear and your response is based solely upon fear since you have convinced yourself that there isn't any meaning to life (which there isn't in most aspects). What could be scarier then that?
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You might be interested to know that my experience has been vaguely the reverse. Stripping life of the duty to have meaning is something I have perceived as liberating. That's just me though. cn
 
ganja man23

ganja man23

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cannabineer said:
You might be interested to know that my experience has been vaguely the reverse. Stripping life of the duty to have meaning is something I have perceived as liberating. That's just me though. cn
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Yes but you must understand that you are the only one who can give it meaning. We must look at life by examining all life collectively. We cannot group all life together and give it a universal meaning therefore it is meaningless to all but the observer (if you choose to believe it has no meaning, that is your choice but it is not resonant to anyone but yourself). To what extent has this liberated you? I believe it to be liberating only in the sense that you have chosen to ignore everything except the illusion that is in front of you. To me that is not liberating, it's counterproductive and blocks you from spiritual progression. Thoughts and beliefs directly shape your reality and nothing in life will influence it more then these things.

For myself this knowledge is liberating because I can choose my own meaning. I choose to pursue whatever makes me the happiest and when doing that I cannot lose. You have no real niche in terms of your supposed liberation. don't we all live life to strive to do what we love? To me it sounds like you're implying that we cannot do this unless we believe that our existence has only once meaning; being a lack of one. If that is your choice you have the right to do that and I'm sure you'll learn from this, be it in this lifetime or the next, on this side or the other.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
ganja man23 said:
Yes but you must understand that you are the only one who can give it meaning. We must look at life by examining all life collectively. We cannot group all life together and give it a universal meaning therefore it is meaningless to all but the observer (if you choose to believe it has no meaning, that is your choice but it is not resonant to anyone but yourself). To what extent has this liberated you? I believe it to be liberating only in the sense that you have chosen to ignore everything except the illusion that is in front of you. To me that is not liberating, it's counterproductive and blocks you from spiritual progression. Thoughts and beliefs directly shape your reality and nothing in life will influence it more then these things.

For myself this knowledge is liberating because I can choose my own meaning. I choose to pursue whatever makes me the happiest and when doing that I cannot lose. You have no real niche in terms of your supposed liberation. don't we all live life to strive to do what we love? To me it sounds like you're implying that we cannot do this unless we believe that our existence has only once meaning; being a lack of one. If that is your choice you have the right to do that and I'm sure you'll learn from this, be it in this lifetime or the next, on this side or the other.
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Allow me to respond to the highlighted.

The bolded: this can mean one of two things. If you mean that my thoughts and beliefs influence (inform, even) my perception of reality, I will agree. Heartily, even.
If you want to say that there is an actual feedback between my thoughts and the state of reality (outside myself), I disclaim: I am not that powerful! That would be magic.

To the purple, I think you're trying to raise a straw man. You seem to be trapping me with an attitude that i would never countenance, an evangelical one that says that what i believe, you should also.
I have strong personal reasons to believe as i do. However I never expect or insist that others do. In fact, i hesitate to even describe what i believe, since evangelism of any stripe is something I view with distaste.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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If only we would share our beliefs as what they really are... ideas, instead of truths... i think we would all get along so much better.

To accept the human animals condition of uncertainty takes courage, but it is only as hard as you make it.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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ganja man23 said:
God isn't about probability it's about existence and it's inevitability. Unicorns exist within god just not in the reality of most humans. The guy above me speaks of fear and your response is based solely upon fear since you have convinced yourself that there isn't any meaning to life (which there isn't in most aspects). What could be scarier then that?
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A vengeful deity condemning one to infinite torture for finite crimes...
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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cannabineer said:
The former. cn
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true dat.

if it was pronounced OO-NeeCorn then it would be AN OO-Nee-Corn, but since its a Yoo-nee-corn, its A unicorn.

A if the next word starts with a consonant sound
An if the next word starts with a vowel sound.

when people say "An Historical..." i want to punch them in the throat, then split their skulls with AN hammer before i ladle their brains onto AN hot griddle and force feed their brains to their english professors for not giving them AN failing grade.

dont get me started on people who say "nookular"
 
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