5 o'clock's subcooled garden journal.....

My wife busted her ass getting shit off without a hitch and has went to sleep. Unfortunatly I got high and can't fall asleep so I guess I'll put up the pic's and let her sleep in peace. I found the DQ wilted as I expected. I gave them a ton of water before I left but I need to get them transplanted. They are fine now. I gave them water and misted them and about an hour later they were fine....

The clones are rooting. The JTR clones are not showing much but the JC, DQ, and Chernobyl are doing fine. The Snow dawg is the darker larger one in the center front. Nothing on it yet either but it's behind a few days anyway. I put the male Snowdawg in the Flower room and It's starting to show more growth. I'll get it ready and put it outside like the other. Oh and I think I waited to long on getting the male Vortex out as almost all the little plants that were around the base of it are seeded....

The plants are showing good strong growth and all the cuts have healed nicely. These are the plants in a side by side. Jack's Cleaner II is first. The mutated plant that has the top that put out 3 leaves per node is #1 and it closely resembels the JTR's that it parents. #2 is more stretched.

The JTR's have different leaves and #2 has very tight nodes even on the branch growth. These plants look like they would love topping or training like supercropping.

The Chernobyl's are the largest of the strains by several inches. They also are showing different leaves and may be starting to lean to one parent or the other. I'm hoping that one is the train wreck....

The last is the Dairy Queen. The lower branches are taking off like crazy. It will be at least another 2-3 weeks before I can even think about taking clones. It has the seration I'm looking for but I wonder what it will grow into? Either way I'm sure it will be good.....

The Snowdawg that I put in the flower room is growing pods. I don't think I got the Vortex out in time because all the little plants that had just went in with it had gotten seeded and none of the mothers they were cloned from have hermied....?

I took a pic of one of the top buds on the pheno I really like. I can't believe how much it smells. It's like tropical punch... That's what got pollenated at the base of the plant a week or so ago.

Some random shots of the camp site and breakfest. And the crystal clear river that was cold but tolerable....

Very busy weekend and a long overdue update.....

First is the Cheesey DQ next to another DQ. The one on the left is the one I'm hoping to give a good representation of the UK Cheese. It has the purplinsh stems and double seration. It's leaves are more sativa and narrow that either of the other 2 DQ's.

The clones are doing well. The JTR#1 still hasn't shown roots and the JTR#2 has just gotten some in the past few days. The Snow Dawg is finally starting to show roots and it was cut almost a week after the JTR's. I will be cutting down the first round of plants tonight and putting the rooted clones in soil. The Chernobyls are the most aggressive rooters.

The plants in the flower room are all falling over from their own weight. I may just chuck or at least pull early the last batch because the Vortex pollenated them and they are putting all their energy into making seeds and not bud. They may turn out useless.....
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These next few post are to catch up on old updates. I've just been to lazy to do both threads.....

Got my fingers crossed. I spent alot of time repotting everything today. I'm still waiting for the JTR#1 to root as well as the Snow Dawg. I am waiting for the JTR#2 to get more roots but planted the rest. This Vortex male didn't stretch as much as the last. It has nice branching too. The Snow Dawg is ready to drop so it is going out side today. The DQ's are stressing in the cups and are getting repotted as well as the Vortex and Snow Dawg. Hopefully I can put the last 3 in soil in a week, I would like to flower in 2.....

I cloned the tops of the DQ#5 &6 as well as the Vortex. Then I took 2 clones from each plant except for the Snow Dawg and filled up the cloner.


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The first is the SD the second is the V and the third is both. I like the structure on this Vortex more than I did the other but it's all in what they bring to the table..... Then some of their jiz

The clones are looking good. Lost power for about 30 minutes today due to a storm. The clones that have been in soil are taking off and really need to be flowered before they get out of hand tall. Maybe I'll top them?..... The Chernobyl is so vigiorus it's already rooting. Unlike the JTR#1. SD will be ready for soil soon but I may wait on the last cut of C because they both will stretch and I can flower them earlier. The mothers are stretching. The JTR #1 is very compact still and could veg for a while before it needs cut again.

I have no patience at all. I put the Chernobyl #1 & #2, DQ #2, and the JTR #2 in the flower room tonight. The chernobyl is stretching and growing very fast. I think the DQ will do the same. The JTR mother is still very compact and probably not the best match for this but I really want to see the JTR grow out. It's been 5 nights in the soil so it should be ok. The clones have recovered from the pump being off for 7 hours and should be fine.....

So starts the fun.....

Put the first tray in to flower on Wednesday night. They are already taking a liking to the HPS. I took 2 clones from SD and Ch#2 and one from the JC#2. The cloner is now full. The SD will be going in soil soon. The Vortex is showing roots as is the JC#1 and DQ#2&6. The Chernobyl #2 is almost ready to go in soil, this thing gets roots fast! It won't be long and all the plants will need trimmed again. I wish they all rooted that fast.

I made up 4 new boxes today with soil. I will be planting all my rooted cllones this weekend. I will be putting the SD, the 2 Chernobyls, and the Vortex and put them all in the same tray. I feel they will all have similar height gains and are a better match than the 2 Chernobyls, JTR#2, and DQ#2. The Ch are waaaaaay taller.

The DQ#5 clone had stem rot from the cloner making me think the water is to hot. I put the ballast under the tub to help heat the water in the winter and guess it's getting to hot in the summer. I will move them tonight. This batch of clones hasn't been as perkey since the whole no water for 7 hours thing. I think that with the warm water is why some are taking so long to root.

The mom's need trimmed again. It looks like I will waste a lot of clones until I get the number of mothers I want to keep down to a managable number of superior plants since it's for me and not to sell. I hope to get a deep freeze and put some away so I can tear things down for a few years.

I recloned DQ#5 and put it in the cloner this morning.

I guess the plants have enough roots to go in soil now. I put the Ch#2's in with the SD and the Vortex. Then I put the2 rooted JC#1 clones and filled the tray with them. I think they can veg for a couple weeks but the CH's will get only one.

The cloner looked empty so I cut some more of the CH plants to keep their height down. I also cut 4 more SD's and 2 more Vortex and 1 DQ#2. The moms are bushing out. The DQ is wide as hell. I cut it's tallest branch.

Ch #2 was about 24" tall so I took 4 cuttings from it and brought it down to size. CH#1 I only took one cutting. I moved the ballast from under the cloner and hopefully the lower temps will help them root faster.

It appears that DQ#2 is a male. Even though the preflowers looked female it threw balls in flower . I will take it out ot the tray tonight and put it in it's own pot. I will grow it out like I did the others and put it outside to finish. That leaves Ch #1&2 and the JTR#2 still in flower. I will be getting rid of the "mother" DQ#2 tonight.....

DQ#2 got the boot last night. I pulled the mother (father) plant and moved the clone that was in the tray into it's own pot so when it gets close enough I can put it out side to finish. I transplanted the DQ#5 to the larger pot and just in time it was almost root bound.

I chopped some more clones from the mothers because they were getting way tall. I had to double up on clone spots with 2 cuttings in each cup there were so many. I got rid of the 2 DQ#2 clones and when i went to fill their spaces I discovered that I should trim the rest before they got to big.

The new trays that have been rooting almost 4 days are looking good. I have the next round of trays ready for the next group of rooted clones. I will wait til the 2 trays are ready for flower in a week and a half to keep my cycle spaced....

I put the tray with the JC #1&2 that have been rooted for three weeks along with the ones that have only been vegging for a week and put them in the flower room with the other tray.

I moved the DQ male out. I will give the tray with the Vortex and SD some more veg time. I want these two to stretch a little before I flower them. I topped the taller Ch#1 and the other CH is very small anyway so it won't hurt them to go another week or 2 vegging. I may wait and put them in with the tray I filled last night in 2 weeks.

These are vigirous growers and I can see that I'm glad I started when I did because if I had let these go any longer they would be way outta control. I hardly feed them anything it's mostly from the rich soil mix I'm using.....

My clone tray is way full with almost every spot doubled up.... Which isn't a bad thing as some of these clones don't want to root and rot out before they can make any. Some of them root or form rootbuds in less than 7 days.

The Chernobyl's have really put on a stretch. Each of the blocks are 8" tall. If you go back you can see that I put them in flower when they were 8-10" tall and now 2.5 weeks in Ch1 is over 24". The JTR#2 at the other end looks like a miget next to the Ch's. The buds are starting to form so I'm hoping they are done growing and now will just fill out.....

The JC2 clones are doing well also. The JC#2 is way taller than #1 and has alot of undergrowth. The 2 on the left are JC#1 clones so I only have the 1 JC#2 clone in there. I tried to get some pic's of the tripple node structure on the JC#1 top. Again none of the side branches took on this trait.

The newest batch is the tray on the left. The SD in the back had been in shock from the transplant but seems to have snapped out of it. The rest are looking great. The cloner is full again but as you can see in the far back on the right, not all the clones are making it. Right now it doesn't matter because I have so many but I'm curious as to why it's happening to only a few of the clones and not all? I would think if one was having a problem and dying like that then all of them would. Oh well.....

The Chernobyl's get roots soooo fast I'm having a hard time keeping up with them. They are the majority of my clones at the moment because they thrive so well. I just hope they kick some ass.....

Lastly is the pic of the DQ male. He is outside for the rest of his short life.....

Like an idiot I didn't learn my sesson the first time, I checked the ph late last night and was so tired that I forgot to turn the cloner back on. Probably gonig to loose about 20-25 clones . Oh well, at least the mom's are ready for another trim.....

I got 19 clones off the 2 Ch plants yesterday and 8 off JTR1 and 8 off JC1 this morning. I lost a total of 23 clones in the mishap so it balances out I guess.

I put the tray with the SD and Vortex and the tray with the Ch's in flower. That is 4 trays in now. I had to throw out a SD and a Ch1 because the roots went translucent and looked bad, that makes 25 lost. I planted the rest of the rooted clones in soil this morning. I have 6 empty cups that i will fill tonight. The DQ's and SD need trimmed again so they will get the honor. 5 more weeks for the first tray!!!! Ch1 is showing tric's already but the JTR2 and Ch2 haven't yet.

I finally got one of the DQ#5 clones to root!!!! I had to throw out one of the Ch because it didn't have a good enough root system after the incident. I lost all but these 7 clones in my fuck up....

I filled up the cloner again. All the mom's are a week or two away from needing cut again. The DQ#5 will be ready in a few more days but I have no openings in the cloner. I chopped the shit out of the Vortex today and it will be a while before it's ready again.

The Ch's are packing on weight and crystals. Just over 3 weeks in and are looking yummy! The JTR doesen't have near the crystals but it didn't get to veg as long and didn't show pistals as soon either. The JC#1 looks like it has bud sites a plenty with it's tripple nodes. I started to top all my Ch's in veg because of the explosive growth they put on in the first 2 weeks of flower. Seems to be working great and I plan on doing it from now on.

Good lookin mang, I'll keep an eye on this one

Loving the subcool gear, I'm defintiely purchasing some vortex when I get going again. The DQ, Chernobyl, Space Bomb and JTR are all up in the air.

Any experience with other subcool gear?

Great job though, sorry to hear bout ya clones, but guess it worked out

w1ckedchowda said:

Good lookin mang, I'll keep an eye on this one

Loving the subcool gear, I'm defintiely purchasing some vortex when I get going again. The DQ, Chernobyl, Space Bomb and JTR are all up in the air.

Any experience with other subcool gear?

Great job though, sorry to hear bout ya clones, but guess it worked out

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Hello my friend and thank you for checking out my grow. This is my journal though and is used for me to go back and refrence without having to go through a bunch of off topic conversations. Use the link in my sig to join us in the discussion thread. I have 6 TGA strains going at this time. I have never grown any of them out as you can see. The closest ones are the Chernobyl and the JTR which are going into their 4th week in 2 days.
Again thank you for checking in and look forward to seeing you in the discussion thread in Subcools Organic section.....