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GreenthumbZ315

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Hey everyone I have a 4x8 scrog with 8 plants veg for 6 weeks topped supper cropped and tucked under the net right now . I just ordered two spider farmer se7000 do you think that’s to much coverage for the 4x8? Also what are you thinking I could yield with the spider farmers ?
 
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coreywebster

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GreenthumbZ315 said:
What growing methods are you doing to yield that much ? I’m struggling to even pulll an lb from a 4x8 with two 600 Hps this new run I’ll be running the new leds I’m unboxing today
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2 x 600w hps is a bit weak for 4x8.
I used to use 3 in that area before changing to led , still the light spread wasn't ideal.
Your training methods should be pulling a pound per 600hps with little effort. Even with a average yield strain.
 
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GreenthumbZ315

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coreywebster said:
Can't tell you're being sarcastic because I'm being Conservative or not?
I'm looking at the space rather than the wattage, personally I lit that space with about 1140w though I imagine more folks are running around 1200w
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Nooo I’m not being sarcastic at all I’m trying to better my growing method I been a little lazy … all my buddy’s are blowing right past me and I just want to do better with my yield … scrogging takes a lot of time but I like the concept of it but it’s a lot of training and work … I want to try something different next time what’s everybody doing these days ?
 
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coreywebster

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GreenthumbZ315 said:
Nooo I’m not being sarcastic at all I’m trying to better my growing method I been a little lazy … all my buddy’s are blowing right past me and I just want to do better with my yield … scrogging takes a lot of time but I like the concept of it but it’s a lot of training and work … I want to try something different next time what’s everybody doing these days ?
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My comment about sarcasm was to the other guy.

Scrogging does take effort, your right, its a good method to maximise space and bump up yield though. You shouldn't necessarily have to scrog to hit good yields though.

What's your standard veg time?
From clones or seed?
What medium?
Vegged under ?
 
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GreenthumbZ315

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coreywebster said:
My comment about sarcasm was to the other guy.

Scrogging does take effort, your right, its a good method to maximise space though and bump up yield though. You shouldn't necessarily have to scrog to hit good yields though.

What's your standard veg time?
From clones or seed?
What medium?
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From clone I usually let them out grow a 1 gallon pot then pot up to 10 gallon for easier maintenance I don’t really have a set time but I would say at least 5-6 weeks veg time
 
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coreywebster

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GreenthumbZ315 said:
From clone I usually let them out grow a 1 gallon pot then pot up to 10 gallon for easier maintenance I don’t really have a set time but I would say at least 5-6 weeks veg time
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With that sort of veg and can't see why you wouldn't hit good yields.
I use coco, 5 gal cloth pots as standard.
Roughly aim for that veg using cmh.
Flower with good LED.

Providing your venting properly, not just recirculating stale co2 depleted air and your nets are full and remove lower stuff and your not chopping weeks early like some people do you should do pretty well.

LEDs are great, but they aren't a fix for a poor set up or bad growing practices.
 
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Lilmink

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Considering two se7000 for my 4x8, get a PAR meter to measure the light intensity.

Is the 7000 overkill ? Could I get away with the se5000?
 
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fishwater

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i think that is the perfect light i'm also setting up a new 4x8 with two se7000's i will just run it at 75% and about 12 inches. this should make the lights last longer because you're not pushing them as hard. the se5000 does not cover the corners well so ir you want a full even canopy go with the se7000's
 
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Rocket Soul

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GreenthumbZ315 said:
What growing methods are you doing to yield that much ? I’m struggling to even pulll an lb from a 4x8 with two 600 Hps this new run I’ll be running the new leds I’m unboxing today
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Led yielding tips:
- start with a good and yieldy genetic, this works for any grow.
- for first led grow: you need to really ditch any ideas of environment for HPS: with leds the temps will be upside down: rather than keeping temps under 80F you need to keep them over 80F, 81-84F being ideal for high light intensity.
RH: you need to be able to set this according to VPD, vapour pressure deficit. Vpdchart.com is a good tool for this but you will need your temps in C and not F, also you need the leaf temp. A ir temp-reader/thermometer is good tool for this. If no ir temps available: cannopy is usually about 1-2°C colder than environment, dependin on how much light your giving. The chart will also give you what vpd for each stage.
- dialing in light levels and environment:
First you need to really make sure you dont overlight your plants. This is mostly about reading your plants. Same thing about environment: you need to be able to see if the plant is happy just by plant stance: if its healthy and transpiring correctly then youll see the plant getting a plant "boner", leaves stretching and praying towards the light.
So light intensity: you need to up light little by little, making sure you dont stress the plant. The plant will stress if you push the light too much and too soon. As you give higher light intensity you may have to adjust environment, basicly pushing temps up a little. Dont worry if the process is slow, there cones a time somewhere mid flower where the plant can take almost all you can throw at it. When the plants need frequent watering is usually the time. But its vital that you dont get any deficiencies as youre entering in flower. There are many times calmag issues, keep it handy. And also you may have to up ec a little bit from you hps regiment.

As you see there are a fair few things youd need to be able to control and usually this means you need machines: ec reader, humidifier, possibly ac or a good fan with temp/rh regulation (ac infinity for example).
Its mainly about environment and being good at reading the plant health. If you can the adding far red and uv is also really helpfull. Good luck.
 
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