4x4 newer grower pheno hunt / fixing issues with grow

RadicalRoss

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I just pulled my second full tent and it was just a nightmare. Basically nothing even worth saving for the jar, so I'm just gonna process it all into hash. I'll probably put updates here eventually just to see what I get from that failed attempt.

My hope is that a grow journal will help keep me checking on my plants more and noticing issues earlier. I'm also changing like 4 things so we'll see how it goes.

I'm swapping from cloth to plastic pots, using roots organic green fields + terp tea instead of sohum + terp tea, and upgraded my inline fan to something that should be able to help with temp and humidity thanks to the fancy controller, as well as just meet the air circulation needs of the tent generally. I think my last one was underpowered.

I'm growing under a Mars Hyrdo TS3000W. It's at about 25% right now. I'll turn it up over the course of flower

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The new fan, a cloudine s6 with a controller 67

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So fancy. I got my Inkbird up next to it now.

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Took clones from these girls a few days ago and transplanted today. They've each been topped once earlier in veg. Went ahead and fed them some terp tea, though I think I jumped the gun a bit there maybe.

Oh yeah, i also decided to get an RO system just to be completely sure my water wasn't the issue. I add cal-mag to it and pH.

The plan is to give them a few days to a week to get used to their new home and then flip to flower. I'd like to come away from this with a mother plant. There's 3 Gorilla Cookies and 2 Sherbet there, surely something will be worth keeping before I pop new genos.

Please feel free to comment with any questions or comments.
 

Rurumo

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quick suggestion: give them a week or so for their roots to fill out the new pots a bit, and consider powering up your light. Why only 25%? Do you lack the room in the tent to keep the light higher? Just curious, because it would be better to acclimate your plants to more light before putting them into flower when they'll really need it. Just do it gradually, crank it up a bit, then raise it at the same time and lower it day by day. It's easy to burn plants that aren't used to much light so I'd start that process asap! Good luck!
 

RadicalRoss

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quick suggestion: give them a week or so for their roots to fill out the new pots a bit, and consider powering up your light. Why only 25%? Do you lack the room in the tent to keep the light higher? Just curious, because it would be better to acclimate your plants to more light before putting them into flower when they'll really need it. Just do it gradually, crank it up a bit, then raise it at the same time and lower it day by day. It's easy to burn plants that aren't used to much light so I'd start that process asap! Good luck!
I actually put it up to 50 last night after using some par meter on my phone, lol. Figured they didn't need it nearly that low.

Yeah the plan is to let them get used to their new pots before I flip the tent to flower and start slowly increasing the power.

Thanks for the tip! Got some discoloration on my leaves now I'm worried about... Uploading pics momentarily.

ETA: the light can go higher but it's about 2 ft above them already.
 
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RadicalRoss

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I'm thinking it's a magnesium deficiency. I wouldn't be surprised if the sohum they were in was close to out of nutrients, they'd been in that 3 gallons for months.

Plants don't look worse today, gonna keep watching and hope it recovers smoothly. 4 or 5 more days and I'll flip to flower.

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RadicalRoss

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Looks good, I also have jus noticed mag Def in week 3 of flowering, think I may spray leaves with Epsom salts see if it helps
I think I'm going to leave mine alone for now and hope that the transplant + watering with RO + calmag will fix it. Going to keep watching it closely though. Doesn't seem to be any worse today.
 

RadicalRoss

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Time to refill the humidifier

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Damage on g cookies 2 seems about the same

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Really excited for this g cookies 3 pheno.

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I'm also glad I kept this plant I thought was a male for a few days. I think now it's a girl, or possibly hermie. It came from bag seed. I haven't transplanted yet but I probably will in a day or two if it looks like a girl

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RadicalRoss

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Went ahead and transplanted the Slurricane bag seed into a 7 gallon container and put it in the flower tent with the rest of the girls.

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Went ahead and put the support mesh up for the plants to grow into as well

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Flipped my tent to 12/12 as well. Slurricane only got a couple days to recover after the transplant, but it seems pretty hardy. I'm gonna have to keep watching it for signs of hermaphroditism, but it looks like a girl to me right now.

Still waiting on my clones to root, only one of them is doing a good job of it right now. Hopefully I'm not forced to clone from flower.
 

RadicalRoss

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How come you are changing from fabric to plastic pots?
One of a few changes I'm making because I was really unhappy with my last grow. I kind of think it isn't the issue, but it's something I wanted to try out.

I was bummed out with how anemic my root balls looked in the cloth pots, both when I harvested and removed the root ball and when I was transplanting from 3 gallon to 7 gallon pots. The thinking is that plastic pots might get me better root balls, especially at these sizes of pots. Eventually I'd like to do a side-by-side with cloth vs plastic pots using clones.
 

LowRange

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One of a few changes I'm making because I was really unhappy with my last grow. I kind of think it isn't the issue, but it's something I wanted to try out.

I was bummed out with how anemic my root balls looked in the cloth pots, both when I harvested and removed the root ball and when I was transplanting from 3 gallon to 7 gallon pots. The thinking is that plastic pots might get me better root balls, especially at these sizes of pots. Eventually I'd like to do a side-by-side with cloth vs plastic pots using clones.
Ok yes makes sense, It's my first grow, and i have 2 tents running all using cloth pots of different sizes. I haven't had issues with the roots or plants, they are going extremely well. I found the cloth good to prevent over watering, and allow them to dry out quicker. But the fungus gnats with the cloth pots have been brutal, they can crawl through the pots and lay larvae on the top, bottom and all sides where plastic pots they can only get at the soil on top and maybe through the drain holes.

So thinking of trying plastic in one tent next run too and see how they compare.
 

RadicalRoss

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Ok yes makes sense, It's my first grow, and i have 2 tents running all using cloth pots of different sizes. I haven't had issues with the roots or plants, they are going extremely well. I found the cloth good to prevent over watering, and allow them to dry out quicker. But the fungus gnats with the cloth pots have been brutal, they can crawl through the pots and lay larvae on the top, bottom and all sides where plastic pots they can only get at the soil on top and maybe through the drain holes.

So thinking of trying plastic in one tent next run too and see how they compare.
I've been lucky to avoid fungus gnats for the most part. Had some minor issues my first grow, but I haven't seen a single one on my sticky papers this cycle. Knock on wood but I think I've dodged them this time.
 
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