4x4 600w. how many plants?

anyone ever try cannabis-seeds.us?


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willienelson1stgrow

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This is my first grow, I have a 4x4 tent and a 600w cool tube. Got some Willie Nelson seed from cannabis-seeds.us

2 out of 10 seeds are alive the rest not looking good, the seeds I got from here were small green and pale.

I'm gonna pick up some clones as soon as they become available. What would you guys recommend in terms of quantity
 
Depends on your grow technique and other factors, and this is also assuming you have an option of buying an unlimited amount of good clones..

What media are you using?

How are you watering?

How much time do you have to dedicate to your garden?

Are you going for max yield or just want to grow some good nugs to smoke for a couple months till your next harvest?

Do you want to clone these clones or keep buying new clones? Do you have a clone and veg area available?

All these beginning questions factor in to the answer.

Also, you got f'd by whatever seed company it is you used. Obv immature seeds were sent to you, which are practically worthless.
 

willienelson1stgrow

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going soil, have them in a seedling mix Inside a clone starter box I put together.

Veg area is ready, I have a 300w led waiting to be lit.

So far going into week 2 with these trooper Willie Nelson seeds that pulled through. 2-10 survived.
 

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Not to be a ball buster, but if you are lucky enough to have at least one female there, you usually have about a 1 in 4 chance at best of getting a really good pheno.

If you can get your hands on good clones and want to keep a constant cycle going, you pretty much are going to need to SCROG in your tent (I'm assuming it's 6.5 feet high ).

I've done grows like this many times, with no mothers, just cloning off the plants I would eventually flower. I have found the best method is to set up two layers of trellis nets in your flower tent. One at about 2 feet high, and another a foot or so above that. For a 4 x 4 I would veg 8 plants and rotate into flower every 8-9 weeks. After two months of veg your plants will be big. Skirt the bottoms, take clones, and cut all top branches and clone with those too. You will have plenty of clones in case you have issues rooting. BTW, throw your cuts in a cup of water for 24 hours, it works wonders. Anyway, set 4 plants evenly spaced across the back of the tent, with plants under the trellis bent towards the front, then do the same with 4 plants across the front of the tent and bend them under the trellis towards the back. Obviously be careful not to crack the stem and also tear plant from roots, support the base of the plant with your hand when bending under the trellis. Once your plants are under the trellis, pull branches through the first layer, and up to the second layer on the outer edges, and try to cover as much space as possible. In a few days most of your leaves will be upright and you will have a shitload of growth from all parts of the stem. Flower those out, rinse and repeat.

BTW, your veg area should be at least 2 x 4 to do properly. A tent would be really nice for this too. Not sure what kind of penetration or coverage you will get from a 300 watt led, might want to supplement a little with some t5.
 
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Sorry, I had an edible tonight...lol I would actually start off with 6 plants and do this method. work up to 8 or more depending on how your strain performs. A lot of strains won't put off anything under the first layer of plant matter, with less light penetration... Other plants will. It's all about learning the ways of what you grow.
 

willienelson1stgrow

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I'm gonna try 3, but with a 600wMH. Clones will be from a dispenser in Santa Cruz ca. Flower with 600whps. I'll experiment with the led after I harvest. Just one plant, under led from seedling to flower, in dwc.

Sativa has got me thinking
 

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if you get four decent cuttings and veg them for 3-6 weeks in your 4x4 then flower them out you should easily get a pound.
No offense, but... A quarter lb a plant? In a 4 x 4 x 6.5 tent? LOL!!! All plants yield differently, so saying if you get 4 decent cutting you should easily get a pound is not realistic at all. I would say he should expect to get two ounces per plant on average at best, especially with the limited space in a tent. Unless you want to go SOG, the above mentioned method of growing with a smaller amount of plants is definitely the best way to get a higher yield IMHO.
 

Sativied

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4-9. The more you get, the shorter you veg. The less you get, the more canopy control you should do to fill the space.
 

ghb

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No offense, but... A quarter lb a plant? In a 4 x 4 x 6.5 tent? LOL!!! All plants yield differently, so saying if you get 4 decent cutting you should easily get a pound is not realistic at all. I would say he should expect to get two ounces per plant on average at best, especially with the limited space in a tent. Unless you want to go SOG, the above mentioned method of growing with a smaller amount of plants is definitely the best way to get a higher yield IMHO.

i got over a qp per plant my first grow in a 4x4 tent with a 600. if you can't get over 4 oz off a plant that has vegged for 6 weeks then you should consider another hobby perhaps. fuckin noob
 

ghb

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looks like it may be twins to me, you sure that isn't two plants in one seed?
 

black jesus

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Oh you in Cali....and in Cruz i the strain I want to grow so bad but a lil worried is blue dream that shit is bomb...I had it only one time. Everyone who tries to grow it themselves seem like it molds on the when drying lol... I think I have to give it a shot soon. I wouldn't know what I'll get...
 
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