400w Querkle Grow

psyte

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Ok here are some pics from the initial harvest done on 4/15. I still have something like half the plant left and will continue to flower it for another 2 weeks, hoping to get the immature lower buds to ripen up a bit more.

First the before pics. This is the plant at 72 days of 12/12:

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Some pics of a branch before trimming and a couple branches/nugs after trimming. You can see how small and far apart the nugs are. Keep in mind these are a couple of the best top branches. To say it's disappointing would be a bit of an understatement.

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Here's the two groups of branches after trimming and hanging. There is 431g wet. Due to amount of stem I'll consider myself lucky if there's 3oz dry (20% of wet weight). I'll consider myself even luckier to get another 2-3 oz dry from the remainder of the plant.

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And this is what's left of the plant after initial harvest. The flash kind of messed it up, but you can see how immature and light colored some of the remaining buds are (lack of chlorophyll from receiving too little light due to leafy dense canopy):

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Two days after harvest (today). I trimmed the buds from the stems. Letting them sit out for 4hrs then jarring to check RH. Due to small size they are already getting dry on the outside. They could probably go another day max, but I'm always a bit overcautious since it's easier to dry them out more than to increase the moisture if I wait too long. For reference, that's a 10" tray they're in.

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grobofotwanky

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Nice man. Nice. Never am I disappointed when catching up on this thread. I'm eager to see your dry weight. Gotta go spread some rep around so I can hit you again.
 

psyte

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Thank you.

The weed gods have bestowed upon me some cuts of Violator Kush and Sour OG today, so now I've got a couple more strains to try... assuming they root. The Violator should be fine but the cuts of Sour are tiny and only have like 2-3 nodes so they may be a challenge.
 

AzCannaMan

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Thank you.

The weed gods have bestowed upon me some cuts of Violator Kush and Sour OG today, so now I've got a couple more strains to try... assuming they root. The Violator should be fine but the cuts of Sour are tiny and only have like 2-3 nodes so they may be a challenge.
Good luck with the new cuts!

The Querkle harvest is looking good dude! The pick of what you harvested make this strain look almost worth the PITA low yield... Almost.... I wish you the best on that one! Primo looking erb none the less!!

I like your idea of letting the lower stuff go longer, it'll be interesting to see what goes down there... Did you do a flush at all? I assume no, they dont look hella dead lol, highly controversial topic anyways. Dosent really seem neccacary to me if you look at it from a Botanical pov in general.

Anywho im rambling, NICE PURP BRO! :weed:
 

psyte

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I didn't flush, but I cut the nutes in half for the last two weeks. I personally think flushing is a bad idea. I agree the taste is better flushed, but it's too stressful on the plant in it's last couple weeks. I'm just not enough of a pot snob to stress my plants over taste. My thoughts are flush + long cure = better taste, No flush + short cure = better potency. So I'm going the middle way this grow and cut back nutes and will cure a medium amount of time (4 weeks).

After the initial harvest I fed it full strength 20-20-20 to hopefully green it up a bit and give it a little boost. Next watering I'm going back to half strength flower nutes for the remainder of the grow (watering by hand instead of drip now cause I don't want to bother figuring it out all over again when there's only 2 weeks left anyhow).
 

rocknratm

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Thank you.

The weed gods have bestowed upon me some cuts of Violator Kush and Sour OG today, so now I've got a couple more strains to try... assuming they root. The Violator should be fine but the cuts of Sour are tiny and only have like 2-3 nodes so they may be a challenge.
my friend takes TINY clones, so small im always shocked. dothe usual, heatmat, dome and as high humidity as possible, spray em 2 times a day, keepwater in the tray, and theyll be fine
 

psyte

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I've got em in my homemade 5gal aero clone bucket. I'm too lazy for all the dome and spraying maintenance. The only one I think will be trouble is the 2 node one since there's only a bit of stem and no nodes below the neoprene.
 

psyte

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Well what's left of the plant is definitely greening up and has put on a bit more bulk... but unfortunately this little experiment has to be cut short cause I've got some major hermie action getting underway. Looks like the stress of partial harvest and extended flowering was too much for the poor girl... well, shemale now. Gonna have to chop the rest of it this weekend.
 

rocknratm

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mine hermied at the end too, from stress. just a few signs of it.

ordered AOS and Jilly bean, and got the qush!!!
 

psyte

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Ooooh the Jilly Bean is nice! I forgot about that one. Probably my favorite strain (in terms of high) in the last year or two.
 

AzCannaMan

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I had some Jilly Bean from The Nile in Santa Monica and it was outstanding! Great flavor, nice happy, up high.

The smell & flavor were unlike any other pot ive ever smelled in my life.
 

psyte

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Supposedly it's a high yielder that grows nice and short too. If that's true it sounds like a great one to grow indoors.
 

rocknratm

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all the tga gear I ordered I went by yeild and flowering time. the difference between 8 and 12 weeks is alot... youd get 3 cycles 8 week in the time of 2 12 week!
 

Tmac4302

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Ok my first batch of hash is done. Since the original pics were lost in the great riu data loss of '12... here's some of the pics I took from start to finish.
I started with with 69.5g of frosty trim and popcorn and yielded 17.6g of hash. My wife, who's a heavy smoker, couldn't finish a .2g piece of it lol.

Here's the trim I started with:
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After being ground up in a coffee grinder:
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After shaking in a jar of iso alc for 1min then filtering through 125 micron mesh:
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What's left after drying it out:
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Scraped off the dish:
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You can see in the previous pics that it separated into different layers (dark on top, light on the bottom). I wanted one consistency, so I put it in a smaller dish with a bit of alc and mixed it into a uniform sludge. Dried this overnight and then scraped it up again leaving the finished product:
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Next time, don't grind up your material. The trichomes dissolve in the 91% iso within a minute or 2. The more surface area and the longer the plant matter is exposed to isopropyl alcohol, the more black your hash will be. I suggest slightly breaking up your starting material, swirling it around in iso for 1 minute, then straining it through a coffee filter into a pyrex pan. Do that 3 times and boil off the alcohol with an electric griddle at ~200 F. Make sure it's ventilated with a fan so vapors don't build up. When 95% of iso is evaporated, take an extended paper clip and "whip" the hash while its still on the heated griddle. This is called heat purging and whipping will aerate the hash to make sure the alcohol is completely out. It should turn out to be an amber, gold color. Mine turns out blonde every time and I only use iso. The goal with hash is to extract the most amount of cannabinoids with the least amount of plant matter. The more blonde = The more pure. The more brown/black = The more plant matter. YAY for chemistry degree's! lol
 

psyte

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I agree with the process. I did it exactly the same but without the heat the first time and it was still black though. Not sure why. Maybe I broke it up too much. I also dry it out completely first and use trim... are you using buds?
Also, I make the hash for my wife and she prefers the ground version because it's not a sticky goopy mess... we don't have all the dabbing utensils, just regular pipes and bongs. She'd rather smoke twice as much than deal with getting it all over the place. One alternative I found to that was to flatten out the hash and freeze it. Then you can break off chunks without it getting stuck all over your fingers. Anyhow, I'm kinda tired of dealing with the alcohol and I hate the smell and breathing the fumes (I have to use a respirator and do it in a small shed out back cause we have a baby in the house and I am NOT risking her health for anything).
Next time I'm going to try doing the "gumby" version of ice hash. I'm not an extract connoisseur or anything... just trying to make use of my trim.
 

psyte

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Ok finally finished harvesting and trimming the rest of the plant. Takes fucking forever to trim so many small buds.
From the rest of the plant I got 666g wet (seriously... exactly 666g).
Along with the first harvest, that's a total of 1097g wet. It's hard to estimate the dry weight since it's so much stem and small buds, but I'm going to guess final weigh will be somewhere around 6-8oz.

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psyte

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Putting the next plants to flower. This may be my last run of Querkle depending on how these turn out. This time I'm flowering 4 smaller single cola plants (currently about 14-17" tall). I'm going to be trimming them around 2 weeks of 12/12 so there is only foliage/bud sites on the top 12-18" of plant (depending on how much they stretch). Since this strain's dense foliage always causes nothing but popcorn to grow below the tops of the plants I'm hoping this method increases bud development in that area instead of the plant wasting resources on popcorn and leaves.

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psyte

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Yeah I wish I had started some other strains earlier. The only reason I'm doing another querkle grow is my other strains are still in the seedling or cutting stage and won't be ready to flower for another month or so. But I'll have my second light set up in a week so once those are ready I'll start flowering some new stuff.

Once I have a bit of cash I'm going to grab some jillybean seeds too. Ever since you mentioned those and I saw the yield and flowering time I really want to grow it.
 
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