400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

I am too. I run my lights at night so every morning when i wake up is like xmas morning. Instead of presents, I have more trees under the tree. lol
 

MrEDuck

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I run mine during the day because I wake up with them and I need to be on a diurnal sleep schedule. But ever since starting to have lights kick on at 7am I've been getting up by then. As someone who has had no end of trouble establishing a good sleep schedule and has never been a morning person this is fucking amazing!
 
My gf was paranoid running lights on during the day when we were both at work. She was afraid burn down the place and take our cats with it. I'd love to run 2 flower rooms, when one goes off, the other comes on! oh those MJ dreams...
 

MrEDuck

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I would love to be able to really grow big. I've worked in big ops but the biggest I've ever had had 2400W in flower.
You can get an automatic dry chemical fire extinguisher for your grow pretty cheap. They're well worth the cost for piece of mind if nothing else.
 
Ya i'm only running 400W hps and two 15W 6500k cfl's so don't need anything that big. Just had to go purchase a manual fire extinguisher to make her happy and change light schedule when we're home. I would love to grow big too. I'm constantly hounding people for investing lol, but only really need a few grand and a nice location to start. MJ pays for itself after a harvest or two, but not many ppl I know have that laying around to loan out.
 

MrEDuck

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It costs more than a few grand to start up, remember you're also going to be paying operating costs the first 3-4 months before you even have a harvest and the power company gets mad when they don't get paid and do things like cut it or ask about why you're using so much.
You can get a little one designed for a small grow that probably is no more expensive than your manual one but it will work if you're not home or asleep. No matter what time your light cycle is there are going to be times when you are not available during it.
 

MrEDuck

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I've grown commercially and my wife just asked me what kind of space I would need and how much setting it up would cost when we buy a house. So the costs are pretty fresh in my head for a grow with 3-3.4kW between veg and flower and experimenting and that's not a big enough grow to justify renting a house. You want to have a minimum of 4kW of flower and 6kW would be much better. Then you have the veg lights, all the fans, you'll probably want an automated irrigation system, even media and nutes start adding up in that size grow. And then you get to see the power bill from running 108kWh of lights alone a day. Fans and pumps are likely another 20% conservatively so we're looking at 130kWh/day which at $0.12/kWh $15.60/day which is $468 a month, then you need to add in the cost of rent. So say $10k for the setup, $500 a month for electric and $1000 a month for rent and 4 months before you have a salable crop. That's $16k right there.
 

MrEDuck

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with uato flower your supposed to do 18/6 for the whole grow bro. thats like the one and only good thing about them
I take it you've never even grown an auto? Or just one way back when it was just lowryder?
They certainly have a bunch of good points and the good ones are great weed that you would never think was autoflowering.
People need to stop just repeating what they've heard and never bothered to test.
 

jondamon

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I take it you've never even grown an auto? Or just one way back when it was just lowryder?
They certainly have a bunch of good points and the good ones are great weed that you would never think was autoflowering.
People need to stop just repeating what they've heard and never bothered to test.
Fully agree with you there.

I ran 4 autos last year while I was vegging a donar plant for clones.

Auto northern lights blue
Auto cheese
Auto MOBY dick
60 day wonder.

MOBY was tasty but not very strong. Cheese was a bit poor flavour and potency. Northern lights blue was fantastic. 60 day wonder was a shock. I didn't realise an auto could knock your head off. Lol



J
 

MrEDuck

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I know a guy who spent nine months exclusively growing autos to get some firsthand experience to formulate an opinion. He said there are plenty of breeders selling crap but that's just as true of photoperiods. Dinafem was consistently the most consistent breeder and had many of the best plants. He sent a sample to a mutual friend who reported it was on par with top photo plants.
 

smokeytokeybear

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hey j, what do you think about this nl auto, its forty something days old, and finally starting
to flower, shes huge tho, surpassed my photos like its not shit, what yall think
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jondamon

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hey j, what do you think about this nl auto, its forty something days old, and finally starting
to flower, shes huge tho, surpassed my photos like its not shit, what yall think
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Looks good smokey.

She is a tall one for sure.

Healthy and a good structure to her.


How tall is she?

If it were me I would strip a bit of the shitty under growth away to concentrate on that main and the initial secondary growth that's there.


J
 

smokeytokeybear

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sounds good bro, i take her out this evening, ill get an approximate height
measurment, but id say a good 3 foot as of now, when you say the undergrowth
are you talking about stuff that wouldnt be considered a main branches
 

jondamon

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If she's 3ft tall then 12" from the pot up isn't receiving enough light to produce anything.

Cut off branches and strip branches bare if they are within that 12" at the bottom otherwise you're talking serious popcorn.




J
 
I have never grown an Auto but my friend gave me one of his Dinafem Blue Cheese Autos. Its supp to be pretty killer taste, moderate potentcy, but small yield. Not sure when I'm gonna start it; still got too many other good seeds to go thru first.
 
I've grown commercially and my wife just asked me what kind of space I would need and how much setting it up would cost when we buy a house. So the costs are pretty fresh in my head for a grow with 3-3.4kW between veg and flower and experimenting and that's not a big enough grow to justify renting a house. You want to have a minimum of 4kW of flower and 6kW would be much better. Then you have the veg lights, all the fans, you'll probably want an automated irrigation system, even media and nutes start adding up in that size grow. And then you get to see the power bill from running 108kWh of lights alone a day. Fans and pumps are likely another 20% conservatively so we're looking at 130kWh/day which at $0.12/kWh $15.60/day which is $468 a month, then you need to add in the cost of rent. So say $10k for the setup, $500 a month for electric and $1000 a month for rent and 4 months before you have a salable crop. That's $16k right there.
I've done the math too, but I'm not even talking that big. More like 1 light for veg and 2 for flower. I only want to have about 2 pounds a harvest to stay small scale and off the radar (not in medical state). My friend and I already have most of equipment needed (lights, fans, pots, seeds, lumber, ducting). More or less just need to upgrade some things, purchase odds and ends, find a nice location, and get growing.
I do have a design made for a 2 room, 8 light grow, but that total comes out over $20k.
 

smokeytokeybear

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dude all your looking for is a 2lb consistent harvest? you you doo that with 3 600 watt lights
or 2 1000s, its not to bad.try to obtain that ammount its def possibe ,
i use a 400 watt light, and i always pull 2 os a plant with 6 plants, so u can see how easy it
is, now what comes in to play is your skills......
 
Ya thats why I said I only need a few G's. I have a 400 and my buddy has a 1000W, got about 6 oscillating fans between us, a 6" inline fan, carbon filter is depleted, about ten 5 gal, two 7 gal, two 3 gal and five 1 gal pots. I'm looking at around 1-2oz per plant off my 400W and he gets about 4 off the 1000. Main problem is he lives a few hundred miles away and can't relocate at the moment. And I only have very small space to grow in right now, so can't really expand until get some fundage.
 
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