40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip
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Renfro
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There is a 10 and a 8 in one room that I ran before I bought AC. The other room only has an 8.
Independent rooms as they are on a flip.
Start the incremental droppage about 3 weeks before chop so it varies by strain. Like the GMO is a 85+day plant and the Glue is a 73 day plant.
Varies depending on when. Early flower up to 87-90F canopy, mid flower more like 85-88 and late flower in the upper 70's.
Renfro
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Divine Gelato 3
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire
Gg4
Sunset Sherbert x High Octane
Kushmints
MAC 1
Blue Cookies
OCD X M15
Not the best pics but you get the idea lol. I took some others that didnt come out in room A with the lights off. Ill try to remember those later tonight when the room is lit.
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire
Gg4
Sunset Sherbert x High Octane
Kushmints
MAC 1
Blue Cookies
OCD X M15
Not the best pics but you get the idea lol. I took some others that didnt come out in room A with the lights off. Ill try to remember those later tonight when the room is lit.
Thundercat
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Killing as usual homie, nice work!
Renfro
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So just for those that think you can't feed, feed, feed without burn. These clones have been vegging in a peat based mix, Berger BM6. They haven't had plain water since they had roots. Feed is at 1100 PPM since potted in 6 inch square pots. I water them with minimal runoff since the babies don't have a drainage setup. The right feed at the right pH will be just fine. Thats many different strains too.
kroc
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How often are you watering the 6in ones? Thinking of switching to peat from coco, you're kinda selling me 
edit: went back and read a bit, "they go from needing water every 2 days to every 24hrs" and i remember you saying some are drinking twice a day this last round? Lookin good
edit: went back and read a bit, "they go from needing water every 2 days to every 24hrs" and i remember you saying some are drinking twice a day this last round? Lookin good
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Renfro
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Those are in soil (Berger BM6) if they were in coco I would probably have to water them every 2 hours lol. They get water once a day right now, almost time to put them in the 10 gallon pots with the coco and it's gonna get super crowded in there. Gonna have to prune the hell outta some mothers.How often are you watering the 6in ones? Thinking of switching to peat from coco, you're kinda selling me
edit: went back and read a bit, "they go from needing water every 2 days to every 24hrs" and i remember you saying some are drinking twice a day this last round? Lookin good
Bubbas.dad
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Amazing.
Renfro
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It's hard to say, they are all good ones and I haven't been running them long enough to really know them well. If I had to pick one right now I would be VERY hard pressed. I start to think of one and another pops in mind. The Blue Cheese is really sexy but so is the OCD x M15. So I will have to dry and smoke them, probably run them another time or two before I could even decide one to cull let alone the best one.
dakindgrind
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The OCDxM15 sounds like another win for Cap. I'm curious what shines through the most on her, the oc, stardawg, colombian, or sfighter?
Have the Mac1 waiting to be cycled through. How do you like her? Does she pound or?
Are you taking the GMO 12 wks? Have a cut of her as well and have been told she can be cut early as 9 but wants 11-12 to shine. I guess that's a benefit though running strains that finish at different times.
Are you running staggered rooms or pulling the trigger on all and flip-flopping?
Also I looked for it but maybe missed it, what moisture probe do you use? Was reading how often you were watering (watering in the dark) and it blew my mind.
How do you like the coco vs the peat? Bigger plants? More or less watering?
What are you using to bump up your P for finishing?
Sorry for all the ?'s, I hope they're not redundant and only add to the conversation.
Have the Mac1 waiting to be cycled through. How do you like her? Does she pound or?
Are you taking the GMO 12 wks? Have a cut of her as well and have been told she can be cut early as 9 but wants 11-12 to shine. I guess that's a benefit though running strains that finish at different times.
Are you running staggered rooms or pulling the trigger on all and flip-flopping?
Also I looked for it but maybe missed it, what moisture probe do you use? Was reading how often you were watering (watering in the dark) and it blew my mind.
How do you like the coco vs the peat? Bigger plants? More or less watering?
What are you using to bump up your P for finishing?
Sorry for all the ?'s, I hope they're not redundant and only add to the conversation.
Renfro
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I dunno, haven't smoked her yet.
Amazing strain, super frosty as advertised, smell is very sweet and berryish, at least right now for me, she could change as she ripens. Definitely a plant that requires some serious defoliation, leafy bastard.
All and flip flop for power.
Lots more watering and nutrient consumption, about double. Higher humidities. Plants love it tho.
K. Potassium Sulfate and Potassium Chloride plus increasing the Armor Si a little as well. I boost the P in weeks 3 and 4 with MKP. For ripening I thought I was boosting the P more than I really was when I built the calculator and did the math like I should have long ago.
Disregard weeks 11 and 12.
Renfro
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So, a few things I learned this round:
1) Coco is one thirsty bitch. Having to water every 4 - 6 hours for 20 days ish on some strains during peak drink. Could barely keep up on RO filtration.
2) Warm the water up! When running an RO filter it takes time to fill my drums. When the plants are drinking so fast I need to mix nutes and use them before the water has any time to warm up. Cold roots = slow growth so I chucked an aquarium heater in to bring it up to around 78-80F and wow what a difference. I am not running DWC and the roots aren't drowning the whole time so I am not concerned and haven't had issues with root rot. I will be doing this from now on. I used to be stuck in the DWC mentality and thinking I needed to keep the nutes cooler than warmer. If asked now would I want my coco water at 70F or 80F I would take 80F all day long.
3) Monitor the pH of the media! This was key. Feed a plant and track the pH between that and the next feed. I noticed my plants were drifting down between feeds. Usually around 0.4 - 0.6 was my drift. Watering at a pH thats on the high side of the goldilocks zone allows the pH to drift through the entire zone. If I start in the middle then I end up below the zone. By doing this you get superior uptake of all nutrients. I am also able to detect plants that are out of range and through adjustive feeds bring them inline and get immediate results because the adjustive feed will swing through the goldilocks zone. This has led to the discovery that out of whack soil / coco pH has been the problem when I get a plant that is all fucked up despite feeding at the proper pH. Not all plants will be the same so check them all. Some will think this is dumb but I will be doing this from now on. I noticed that most say 40 - 50% of the swing happens in the first third of the time after the watering. Another reason not to water in the middle of the zone since you will spend more time outside (below in my case) than inside.
Never stop learning!
1) Coco is one thirsty bitch. Having to water every 4 - 6 hours for 20 days ish on some strains during peak drink. Could barely keep up on RO filtration.
2) Warm the water up! When running an RO filter it takes time to fill my drums. When the plants are drinking so fast I need to mix nutes and use them before the water has any time to warm up. Cold roots = slow growth so I chucked an aquarium heater in to bring it up to around 78-80F and wow what a difference. I am not running DWC and the roots aren't drowning the whole time so I am not concerned and haven't had issues with root rot. I will be doing this from now on. I used to be stuck in the DWC mentality and thinking I needed to keep the nutes cooler than warmer. If asked now would I want my coco water at 70F or 80F I would take 80F all day long.
3) Monitor the pH of the media! This was key. Feed a plant and track the pH between that and the next feed. I noticed my plants were drifting down between feeds. Usually around 0.4 - 0.6 was my drift. Watering at a pH thats on the high side of the goldilocks zone allows the pH to drift through the entire zone. If I start in the middle then I end up below the zone. By doing this you get superior uptake of all nutrients. I am also able to detect plants that are out of range and through adjustive feeds bring them inline and get immediate results because the adjustive feed will swing through the goldilocks zone. This has led to the discovery that out of whack soil / coco pH has been the problem when I get a plant that is all fucked up despite feeding at the proper pH. Not all plants will be the same so check them all. Some will think this is dumb but I will be doing this from now on. I noticed that most say 40 - 50% of the swing happens in the first third of the time after the watering. Another reason not to water in the middle of the zone since you will spend more time outside (below in my case) than inside.
Never stop learning!
Keesje
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It is evaporation that makes root 'drink' water.
How do you think that Coco makes them drink more?
Or is it perhaps that more water evaporates straight from the pot? (I guess not, because once it is under the surface, how would that work?)
Renfro
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The plants are taking it up and transpiring it. They are growing more like in hydro.
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