40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip

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2com

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Renfro said:
If I stick with coco I will definitely be doing an auto watering system.
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I think I'm having an automation revelation. I like to design and tinker too much. Hand watering and constant manual measuring and manipulating is time consuming. Haha.
 
Renfro

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2com said:
I think I'm having an automation revelation. I like to design and tinker too much. Hand watering and constant manual measuring and manipulating is time consuming. Haha.
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Yeah I was always thinking of a system with a probe in each pot that would watch moisture levels and water each plant individually as needed via solenoid valves / pump. But I learned the moisture probes I have seen don't like to sit in the soil constantly, they become off very fast.
 
PadawanWarrior

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Renfro said:
So babies that I have vegging for next round:

Gelato 33 - Larry Bird Cut
GMO - Skunkmaster Flex Cut
Blue Cookies
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire - Caps Cut
Mimosa - Symbiotics Breeder Cut
Kushmints - Rabbid Hippy Cut
Punch Breath
OCD x M15 - Caps Cut
MAC 1 - Caps Cut
Romulan
Sunset Sherbert x High Octane - Breeders Cut (BX1)
Wedding Cake

Notice no Glue? Still have it as a mommy but giving her a minute off.

I have noticed with the coco the plants definitely grow more like in hydro as opposed to soil. Hollow stems is a hydro trait and I am seeing that, all of the sudden during week 3 the plants ramped up on drink, I have some that drink every 7-8 hours, some every 10-12. I am letting them dry to where my moisture meter reads middle green instead of bottom green as I did with soil, they seem to like that. Have a couple punch breath plants that weren't drinking nearly as fast as the others when I first moved them into 10 gallon pots and the flowering rooms, I was watering them with the others and it stunted them for sure, you can over water coco. So I started using the moisture meter and letting the plants tell me when it's time. So much for being able to water all the plants at once twice a day. The mimosa and GG4 for example are super thirsty while the Divine Gelato 33 is really slow. Normally I don't have to run a dehumidifier until much later but I am really having to crank the dehu's for the last 5 days or so even though it's low outside as usual. The plants are just transpiring a lot more. Growth was extreme, and because of that many got a little taller than I would like so I am having to fight that. Also had some strains I didn't run before. If I stick with coco I will definitely be doing an auto watering system because these plants have me on the short leash. I digress, I am rambling.

Day 28 - A couple shots from tonite, sorry about the HPS, left my grow glasses in my car.
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I'm done looking at your plants man. They just make me jealous, haha.
 
westcoast420

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Renfro said:
Around 1100 ppm in coco. Won't be applicable in most situations.
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Looking good in there. What additives are you rocking? Used gh 3part for a long time but giving megacrop a go now. Are you feeding with runoff? Setting up a auto drip system would make your life a whole lot easier in there. You can dial in pretty easily how much there drinking per day and set up drippers for each plant. If some are drinking more just add another dripper. For example, When I was growing coco trees, some plants would have 1 2gal/hr drippers, some would have 1 2gal plus a 1 gal/hr, or a 2plus a half gal/hr. Then you can get it to where you can feed them all set on a timer once or twice a day or how ever often you like. I fed 12 times a day. Anyway just food for thought if you ever go that way.
 
Renfro

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westcoast420 said:
Looking good in there. What additives are you rocking? Used gh 3part for a long time but giving megacrop a go now. Are you feeding with runoff? Setting up a auto drip system would make your life a whole lot easier in there. You can dial in pretty easily how much there drinking per day and set up drippers for each plant. If some are drinking more just add another dripper. For example, When I was growing coco trees, some plants would have 1 2gal/hr drippers, some would have 1 2gal plus a 1 gal/hr, or a 2plus a half gal/hr. Then you can get it to where you can feed them all set on a timer once or twice a day or how ever often you like. I fed 12 times a day. Anyway just food for thought if you ever go that way.
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The list of my feed components is in the first post. I keep it simple.

It's not about the amount of water each plant gets, thats the same, it's about how often it requires water (time it takes to dry enough).

SourDeezz said:
Hey Ren, how do I send you a DM? Had a few questions for ya.
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You should be able to message users by clicking on their avatar.
 
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SourDeezz

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Renfro said:
The list of my feed components is in the first post. I keep it simple.

It's not about the amount of water each plant gets, thats the same, it's about how often it requires water (time it takes to dry enough).


You should be able to message users by clicking on their avatar.
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I get a message that says "
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This member limits who may view their full profile.
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Renfro

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SourDeezz said:
I get a message that says "
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This member limits who may view their full profile.
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you dont have to view the profile, simply placing the cursor on on the avatar should result in a popup that has a button to start a conversation.
 
Renfro

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With this coco and all these plants I am having high humidity. So my buddy got me a sweet deal on a new Quest 205 Dehumidifier. $2500 NIB. Thing is a beast. At about 150# I am gonna replace it's feet with wheels lol. You can get a ducting kit for it so I think I will make use of some unused space under my stairwell and that way it won't be in my rooms. I could hang it from the ceiling but I have nowhere to do that.
 
hybridway2

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WolfieLee said:
Thanks for the response. You are correct, I have looked...No DE, Just regular and only in 1000W, also... I was looking once for a 600 to fit my ballast... I will take that to heart. If I recall they had been proud there was plenty in the red spec. I think a side by side would be called for with the yield issue you are suspecting would occur... Good food for thought.
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They make the Hortri Daylight Blue in 600w. It has a heavier red spectrum then the 1000w.
 
hybridway2

hybridway2

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Renfro said:
With this coco and all these plants I am having high humidity. So my buddy got me a sweet deal on a new Quest 205 Dehumidifier. $2500 NIB. Thing is a beast. At about 150# I am gonna replace it's feet with wheels lol. You can get a ducting kit for it so I think I will make use of some unused space under my stairwell and that way it won't be in my rooms. I could hang it from the ceiling but I have nowhere to do that.
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Nice! Congrats! Similiar problem with humidity swings. Bought a humidity sensor that kicks on the exhaust fans. But this is only for lights out. Almost bought a Quest but cheeped out n got x2 big HomeDepot self pumping de-hu's.
Its getting the job done. But only works providing i have regulated the side the intake comes from. Making sure high humidity doesn't enter the room at this time.
Week 3 De-fo & De-Fo in general helps allot but you know this
 
dakindgrind

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Hey Renfro thanks for documenting your work and sharing your years of experience, I'm late to the party but have read through your whole thread.

Renfro said:
With this coco and all these plants I am having high humidity. So my buddy got me a sweet deal on a new Quest 205 Dehumidifier. $2500 NIB. Thing is a beast. At about 150# I am gonna replace it's feet with wheels lol. You can get a ducting kit for it so I think I will make use of some unused space under my stairwell and that way it won't be in my rooms. I could hang it from the ceiling but I have nowhere to do that.
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When you say high humidity what RH are you talking about? Also to clarify you've switched from a peat based mix to a coco in your 10 gals and watering everyday? That is a ton of moisture if so, where do you like to keep your RH? I've tried following the VPD in many a room but with sealed and co2 i stay 60% or below and they still chug a high EC.

I'm running a similar system flipflopping 2 sealed rooms (15x12), recirculating with an in-between mixing chamber (10x15) where my cloners and veg sit along with my mini split handler. In 5gal coco drain buckets, my mini split handles the humidity during lights on but by day21 have had to implement dehueys in each bloom room for lights off.

Also I read your back to your tried and true GH formula, what did you notice about the Jacks mix that you didn't like? I have been running salts for a while with a couple other additives and love it, though your results are certainly inspiring.
 
Renfro

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dakindgrind said:
When you say high humidity what RH are you talking about?
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I want to keep my flowering rooms at 45 - 50%. It was getting up to the mid 60's when dark and in the mid 50's lights on. I avoid VPD in mid to late flower as I have seen too many cases of budrot. It's a no go for me in mid to late flower.

The Jacks just fucked the hell outta my plants. As soon as I went back to gh they were happy and I don't want to lose a crop experimenting. Jacks would have to be done on a small scale first and I just don't have the time, space or even want to do that presently when I get such great results with the GH.
 
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