4 Photos in a 5x5

Dastardly Fool

Dastardly Fool

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Greetings! I have a few inquiries on growing photos in my 5x5x6.6 grow tent. My current plan is to grow two seeds of two strains (Super Silver Haze OG fem 2 *unknown bank* and Seedsman White Widow fem 3) in Strawberry Fields and Coco coir/perlite. The idea is to veg for 5 weeks then flip to flower. Questions as follows, 1) Should I still maintain normal transplanting i.e. solo cup, 1 gal, 3 gal, then 5 for flower? 2) I plan to top and LST. Would it be better to just LST and ignore the Top/Fimming? 3) I am using two (2) 1500w King LED lights each drawing 265 actual wattage. Would I be within reason to expect roughly a LB out of these light? (previous grow of 9 autoflowers in same tent yielded 1.1 oz dry weight per plant with only LST and only used approx. 75-80% of the available space).
 

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Dastardly Fool

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I also have two (2) 1800w COB China cheap units I used for small plants (18-24in) though they do not have veg/bloom switches. QQ
 
ilovereggae

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I would stick with the 9 plants strategy and either veg them a little longer to fill the space better, or bump up to 16 plants and maybe slightly shorter veg than last time. If you know you can already hit an oz per plant, easiest solution would be to just pack more in. As noted you probably need more/better lighting to hit those numbers around the edges of your tent as well.
 
.Smoke

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Dastardly Fool said:
Greetings! I have a few inquiries on growing photos in my 5x5x6.6 grow tent. My current plan is to grow two seeds of two strains (Super Silver Haze OG fem 2 *unknown bank* and Seedsman White Widow fem 3) in Strawberry Fields and Coco coir/perlite. The idea is to veg for 5 weeks then flip to flower. Questions as follows, 1) Should I still maintain normal transplanting i.e. solo cup, 1 gal, 3 gal, then 5 for flower? 2) I plan to top and LST. Would it be better to just LST and ignore the Top/Fimming? 3) I am using two (2) 1500w King LED lights each drawing 265 actual wattage. Would I be within reason to expect roughly a LB out of these light? (previous grow of 9 autoflowers in same tent yielded 1.1 oz dry weight per plant with only LST and only used approx. 75-80% of the available space).
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If you got 1.1oz per auto flower under that light, there's a big "no chance in hell" you're going to pull a pound with it.

Unless you have found a way to magically go from less than 1 gram per watt to over 2 grams per watt without making any other changes...
 
Dastardly Fool

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.Smoke said:
If you got 1.1oz per auto flower under that light, there's a big "no chance in hell" you're going to pull a pound with it.

Unless you have found a way to magically go from less than 1 gram per watt to over 2 grams per watt without making any other changes...
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Using one (I see I didn't state that part, so sorry) of these lights to grow 9 autos in a 3x3 pattern, I pulled 31.1 grams per plant, which comes out to 280 grams. If going by ACTUAL wattage drawn (265w), as opposed to the Lies on the Box (1500w), I would be within the range of 1.05 gpw. With this in mind, would it be safe to assume that doubling the lights can bring me close to my goal? Would the overlapping of two lights create light intensity issues in the zone of overlap? I have only grown photoperiods outside and this will be the first time attempting an indoor tent grow.
I like the autoflowers, however the medical cannabis laws here in MO don't allow for a real SoG 9-20 plants. So my plan is to attempt Scrogging my photos due to MO's 6-6-6 plant count, (seed, veg, flower) however space is limited to the 5x5 until i complete my 10x10 grow room.
 
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ilovereggae

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Dastardly Fool said:
Using one (I see I didn't state that part, so sorry) of these lights to grow 9 autos in a 3x3 pattern, I pulled 31.1 grams per plant, which comes out to 280 grams. If going by ACTUAL wattage drawn (265w), as opposed to the Lies on the Box (1500w), I would be within the range of 1.05 gpw. With this in mind, would it be safe to assume that doubling the lights can bring me close to my goal? Would the overlapping of two lights create light intensity issues in the zone of overlap? I have only grown photoperiods outside and this will be the first time attempting an indoor tent grow.
I like the autoflowers, however the medical cannabis laws here in MO don't allow for a real SoG 9-20 plants. So my plan is to attempt Scrogging my photos due to MO's 6-6-6 plant count, (seed, veg, flower) however space is limited to the 5x5 until i complete my 10x10 grow room.
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I think its possible. What is the recommended footprint for those lights? Do they throw a square shape or a rectangle? You might have overlap issues/bright spots if they are square.

Technically you could be running 750w in that tent to maximize your whole space. If you scrog and fill the whole 5x5 I think you will have a hard time hitting 1g/w again, unless you add a 3rd light.

Either way, I say SOG that tent. Fuck plant counts they are an insult to all of our intelligence. How does it matter if I fill my space with a bunch of tiny plants or a few big ones if I'm going to expect the same yield. Let alone how is the same government that told me not to grow it at all because it had no medicinal value, going to tell me how much medicine I can grow? Just because some DEA asshole convinced some corrupt judge that 1 plant = 1 pound now we all have to suffer? Fuck that. Scrog takes longer, uses more energy because of longer veg, and if one of your plants has a prob and you have to kill it, you lose 25% or 50% of your harvest rather than say 5% if you SOG. Plus its the fastest and most efficient way for me to grow medicine for myself and my son. I wasnt following their rules when it was illegal and we had no real scientific proof of medical benefit. Not gonna start anytime soon. Sorry for my rant, I just hate their stupid bull shit in every form.
 
Dastardly Fool

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ilovereggae said:
I think its possible. What is the recommended footprint for those lights? Do they throw a square shape or a rectangle? You might have overlap issues/bright spots if they are square.

Technically you could be running 750w in that tent to maximize your whole space. If you scrog and fill the whole 5x5 I think you will have a hard time hitting 1g/w again, unless you add a 3rd light.

Either way, I say SOG that tent. Fuck plant counts they are an insult to all of our intelligence. How does it matter if I fill my space with a bunch of tiny plants or a few big ones if I'm going to expect the same yield. Let alone how is the same government that told me not to grow it at all because it had no medicinal value, going to tell me how much medicine I can grow? Just because some DEA asshole convinced some corrupt judge that 1 plant = 1 pound now we all have to suffer? Fuck that. Scrog takes longer, uses more energy because of longer veg, and if one of your plants has a prob and you have to kill it, you lose 25% or 50% of your harvest rather than say 5% if you SOG. Plus its the fastest and most efficient way for me to grow medicine for myself and my son. I wasnt following their rules when it was illegal and we had no real scientific proof of medical benefit. Not gonna start anytime soon. Sorry for my rant, I just hate their stupid bull shit in every form.
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I actually have the link for the light here. https://kingledlights.com/products/king-plus-1500w-double-chips-led-grow-light
It is a rectangle (roughly 3.5'x4.2-4.5' for flower) and the closest I put it to my plants was 21" average. (I had a monster Blueberry Auto in the middle. Cola was 18" from the light) the other plants grew relatively uniform. The penetration was decent for a uniform canopy (scrog/lst/sog) but not so much for natural grow I.E. We didn't play CannaGod with that one. The lights are definitely best suited for an excellent supplemental lighting fixture.
I'll throw some pics of my current babies for this grow.
 
Dastardly Fool

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We have the clones under one of these (free from my wife's Grandmother) https://heliotherapyreviews.com/sad-light/north-star-10000-review/
All five are Afghani of the same pheno I saved from trimming said Grandmother's plants :lol:

Then the tent setup with the dual lights
The current grow. AK Auto from GrowersChoiceSeeds in the back row. Afghani clone in the center. Tangerine Dream Auto from GCS on the sides, and as for the empty pot, you might ask? 60/25/15 Coco/soil/perlite mix that I blend and pour in Temp adjusted, Ph'd water with a foliar feed mix. (My humidity even with the humidifier, is an average 45RH lights on and 50-55RH lights off. Temps are nice at 80F lights on and 69 lights off)
And finally! The Afghani in the center! A new Afghani pheno gifted for moving another grower's plants. The smoke was smoothe, the flavor was the smell of sandalwood, and then my lower back melted into soup. Excited to maintain it as a mother.
 

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