320w QB vs 300w Vero COB, what do you choose?

SunPlix CMH said:

Less energy: 315W can replace 600W HPS/MH
Less heat: same as LED (to get same yield)
High quality: than LED
High yield: than LED
Based on feedback from our customers.

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recently a buddy showed me a jar of GG4, first thing i said was looked like it was grown under 250w hps(what i started with in 1999). I wasnt far off since it was grown under 315 CMH i found out.

SunPlix CMH said:

Many par maps are made up, we just show the growing results from our customers.

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So why dont you make a non made up par map? Buy the correct equipment and produce a real one, you are a light company after all right.

And those buds you have posted dont look impressive by any means, sorry...

PSUAGRO. said:

love the shilling.......... without ppf/w, umol/ j #s, claims mean shit==riu growers approved

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Cmh company's would rather give bulb PPF output as then they dont have to explain the huge losses.

wietefras said:

Just about everything regarding the cmh hype is made up.

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Your joking right? Have you vegged under them before?

Finally haave things up and running after a good few days of work building the cupboard, light frame ect. Still a few tweaks to do though but for now it's rest and Thx for the help RIU

PSUAGRO. said:

love the shilling.......... without ppf/w, umol/ j #s, claims mean shit==riu growers approved

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They will still shill even when you are using the manufacturer's tested performance specs.

Welcome to the internet where everyone thinks they are a star.

Slinging PAR said:

They will still shill even when you are using the manufacturer's tested performance specs.

Welcome to the internet where everyone thinks they are a star.

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The bulb is Philips 315W CDM, 1.9 umol/w.s

SunPlix CMH said:

The bulb is Philips 315W CDM, 1.9 umol/w.sView attachment 4122400

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"315 can replace a 600"

Go!!

SunPlix CMH said:

The bulb is Philips 315W CDM, 1.9 umol/w.sView attachment 4122400

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Now lets take away the system losses as its not a magic bulb that require no ballast and most the light is still going the wrong way so a reflector is needed..

The reflector losses of 10% minimum (being generous here)

600 µMo/s * 0.9 = 540µMo/s

Now ballast losses.

540/350 = 1.54µMo/j

SunPlix CMH said:

Many par maps are made up, we just show the growing results from our customers.

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Well just create a REAL map for your Sunplix...3x3 coverage map would be great !!!

diyled said:

Now lets take away the system losses as its not a magic bulb that require no ballast and most the light is still going the wrong way so a reflector is needed..

The reflector losses of 10% minimum (being generous here)

600 µMo/s * 0.9 = 540µMo/s

Now ballast losses.

540/350 = 1.54µMo/j

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quality Reflectors do matter. ....... some are better than others, but yes your being generous on losses , even new; )

Honestly lots of us recommended the Philips agro line when it released, vert/ bare bulb setup with Phillips lfsw ballast can still be efficient..... beat a 600w hps? no, also boosting a ceramic halide arc isn't a good idea imo, unstable.

SunPlix CMH said:

The bulb is Philips 315W CDM, 1.9 umol/w.sView attachment 4122400

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Better yet make a video showing par readings at 9 different points in a 3x3 tent with one of your slammin jamming sunplix specials !!

Those results will be great for potential customers !!!

Someone should really start a "PAR MAP thread"

Common guys, if they did a real test, they wont be able to keep up with demand. Then slow shipping, bad customer service, fall off the forum, we seen it happen before. Hype up, prove worth, sells thru the roof, then no product, slow response time, no answers, living high life till failure because they forgot about "the beginning" .

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