vlunatrainwreck
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thats insane im rockn the train wreck as well much smaller scale though nice work
30 600 HPS 400 site room. Pictures!
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sparat1k
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do you have a link? my search is broken
smartbadguy
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\i smell bullshit
Tronica
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You should educate yourself.
These videos are super old and even my mother has seen them.
You can watch them all on youtube.
just search seemorebuds
you can rep me later for showing you something you should have seen a long time ago
comercial
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Thats great but he still only got 6 pounds. I get close to 30 so you do the math.
I have seen his DVD's and there good.
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I have seen his DVD's and there good.
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SpruceZeus
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Dudes on his first grow, telling a professional how to do it. HA!
Tronica
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Not like this is rocket science. And every bit of info you could need is available in publications or on the internet. I've read every single book worth reading on growing marijuana, from front to back. And I still don't know everything, I have very little actual garden experiece, but I know common sense, and common sense says 600w lights less than 1' away from eachother, is overkill.
This guy is stealing power and that's the only reason it's even feasable to run 30x600w lights.
If you were not stealing power, and still using 600w lights like that, back to back, in a row, you're just an inefficient gardener. Get a mover, cut that power usage in half, stay safe.
Also - Commercial. SeeMore gets 15 lbs in with 1/8 of the space you are using, and 1/4 of the light you are using.
Using his system with as much room as you have and as many lights and he would probably be pulling close to 100lbs.
In his 200 site Aquamister, in a 4x6 room, he pulls 6lbs.
I'm not saying your garden is shitty, and my initial posting of SeeMores video was so the other guy could see it. Since he called 6lbs on 1800 watts bullshit.
Your garden is great, but I think with all that investment you could do better. Maybe next grow!
If I ever run a garden like that, in that much room, I will be using the most efficient grow techniques that I know of.
comercial
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It's not overkill, there is no such thing as too much light. The only problem is too much heat.
You might be suprised at how much you learn as you expand the scale of your grows. Good luck.
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You might be suprised at how much you learn as you expand the scale of your grows. Good luck.
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doogleef
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Get out of your grow book and back into your garden.
Too much light is VERY hard to do. As long as you are not light-bleaching the plants or overheating .. bring it on. It's all about lumen per sq ft. More light= more buds
doctorgreeneggsandham
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um buzzkill.
dude I am truly inspired. Once I save up enough money I am doing something... cant go into details. but yeah the setup is beautiful and wow you have balls putting these pics up. keep it up
Tronica
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less lights on a mover = less heat
less heat = closer lights = less lost intensity, less PAR
im not putz that doesn't understand the ratio of lights to buds. more light = more yield, its that simple, but an efficient garden does more than just add raw watts and call it good- especially if you're not stealing power. trying not to get busted. makes me think of WonkaLand in Tennessee. Could have been so easily avoided.
Anyways i was in a garden just last month that has 12 x 600w lights (hydrofarm refl and cooltubes) over 4 tables of plants, ebb/flow that kept his lights 6" from his plants. heat was controlled with 4 564 cfm fans running exhaust on each row off movers.
intake was run with 4 large passives into a cellar and one much smaller fan. heat was a non issue. its winter and this is oregon so im sure it helps so well see if he can keep that up all year. but with an ac going i bet he will.
this garden was not dialed in yet and the guy had about half of his sites filled with 4 week into flowering buds. gdp, nirvanas ice, lavendar, and ppp, everything looked nice and hes thinking he is going to pull 8lbs off every table, staggered every 20 days, when he gets it finished.
this guy has been working on his grow for awhile knows his stuff and of course commerical is doing it great, and hes probably a great grower, much better than me - only on my first solo grow, ive only helped friends grow, and never much more than the simple stuff until now (since i finally got my medical card)
if i had the opportunity to do a huge grow like that, i think id make it a little more efficient, and not steal power. thats just my take.
that's all im saying tho because i am not an experienced gardner just a well researched one, im still watching this and wishing you the best of luck
less heat = closer lights = less lost intensity, less PAR
im not putz that doesn't understand the ratio of lights to buds. more light = more yield, its that simple, but an efficient garden does more than just add raw watts and call it good- especially if you're not stealing power. trying not to get busted. makes me think of WonkaLand in Tennessee. Could have been so easily avoided.
Anyways i was in a garden just last month that has 12 x 600w lights (hydrofarm refl and cooltubes) over 4 tables of plants, ebb/flow that kept his lights 6" from his plants. heat was controlled with 4 564 cfm fans running exhaust on each row off movers.
intake was run with 4 large passives into a cellar and one much smaller fan. heat was a non issue. its winter and this is oregon so im sure it helps so well see if he can keep that up all year. but with an ac going i bet he will.
this garden was not dialed in yet and the guy had about half of his sites filled with 4 week into flowering buds. gdp, nirvanas ice, lavendar, and ppp, everything looked nice and hes thinking he is going to pull 8lbs off every table, staggered every 20 days, when he gets it finished.
this guy has been working on his grow for awhile knows his stuff and of course commerical is doing it great, and hes probably a great grower, much better than me - only on my first solo grow, ive only helped friends grow, and never much more than the simple stuff until now (since i finally got my medical card)
if i had the opportunity to do a huge grow like that, i think id make it a little more efficient, and not steal power. thats just my take.
that's all im saying tho because i am not an experienced gardner just a well researched one, im still watching this and wishing you the best of luck
panhead
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Dude you need to stop this,reading shit then thinking you have all the wisdom needed to run massive grow op's based on what you read & accepted as fact will not translate into bud growth.less lights on a mover = less heat
less heat = closer lights = less lost intensity, less PAR
im not putz that doesn't understand the ratio of lights to buds. more light = more yield, its that simple, but an efficient garden does more than just add raw watts and call it good- especially if you're not stealing power. trying not to get busted. makes me think of WonkaLand in Tennessee. Could have been so easily avoided.
Anyways i was in a garden just last month that has 12 x 600w lights (hydrofarm refl and cooltubes) over 4 tables of plants, ebb/flow that kept his lights 6" from his plants. heat was controlled with 4 564 cfm fans running exhaust on each row off movers.
intake was run with 4 large passives into a cellar and one much smaller fan. heat was a non issue. its winter and this is oregon so im sure it helps so well see if he can keep that up all year. but with an ac going i bet he will.
this garden was not dialed in yet and the guy had about half of his sites filled with 4 week into flowering buds. gdp, nirvanas ice, lavendar, and ppp, everything looked nice and hes thinking he is going to pull 8lbs off every table, staggered every 20 days, when he gets it finished.
this guy has been working on his grow for awhile knows his stuff and of course commerical is doing it great, and hes probably a great grower, much better than me - only on my first solo grow, ive only helped friends grow, and never much more than the simple stuff until now (since i finally got my medical card)
if i had the opportunity to do a huge grow like that, i think id make it a little more efficient, and not steal power. thats just my take.
that's all im saying tho because i am not an experienced gardner just a well researched one, im still watching this and wishing you the best of luck
The rules that apply to small personal closet gardens do not allways apply to large scale grow op's,the worst thing that has ever happened to growers is these video's everybody watches,including seemore's vids,they make everybody an expert right after they watch a vid.
Set up a large scale op & see what hapens with all the stuff you learned on the internet,you can throw all that shit out the window cause very little of it works.
Why not simply congradulate the man on a kick ass grow & thank him for posting pics of a grow on a scale that you or me will never reach,instead of beating a dead horse based on internet grow techniques.
Tronica
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Why are you attacking me for not liking this mans grow?
He has to steal power for this to even be worth it.
I post videos of a grow that works better.
I've been in grows that were set up much better. I'm not attacking him, I'm just participating in discussion.
this is a forum, i dont need to kiss someones ass because they blew an ass load of money on a grow op and stole power to run it. whos to say i wont ever be on this level either? i am just getting into growing my own. im also 1 year from my masters and afterwards i wont have any ties to the states. i could fly across the worls and start growing large scale. im not an old man like you, pandhead.
bottom line. i am entitled to my opinion and i will express it because thats what a forum is for, if you don't like i don't know what to tell you, id say get used to it, but if you havn't yet, i doubt your going to start now.
Then it would be MUCH cooler in the room. The plants wouldn't be exposed to bad UV radiation and less heat at the tops (accounts for more CO2 absorption).
With a setup like that, and seeing as how much your pulling in, you can make the investment and it is the most KEY fix to your setup.
You can also place your lights as close as 4" away from the plant tops!
You would definitely need an industrial chiller for the MASSIVE reservoir however.
With a setup like that, and seeing as how much your pulling in, you can make the investment and it is the most KEY fix to your setup.
You can also place your lights as close as 4" away from the plant tops!
You would definitely need an industrial chiller for the MASSIVE reservoir however.
dutchfunkle
New Member
you r a fuckin BEAST comercial
panhead
Well-Known Member
Your on your 1st grow ever (closet grow) & not only are you telling this man whats wrong with his commercial grow op but then go on to tell him how to fix it
,if i wasnt laughing hard enough allready here's some more,.Other than being just plain rude & insulting what is your reasoning behind tearing this guys grow apart,to offer advice
so far all i see is a guy who has read alot on growing & thinks he has it all figured out & somebody else is stupid ?,as for you telling me to " get used to it " im allready used to Google Grow Experts dreaming of the day they can become a weed baron,its nothing new & i am used to it but i'll never agree with it.Instead of picking this growers operation apart you should be asking him to mentor you & help you learn to grow.
In your grow journal of your 1st grow thats barely out of the seedling stage as of 01-29-09 your asking for help from members on the site in dealing with the most basic of grow issues,then 3 weeks later telling a very skilled commercial grower his grow sucks
,you dont see the ridiculousness of this Is there one peice of information you reccomended to this grower that came from your own personal experience in your grow room ? have you ever ran light movers in your operation ? have you ever ran a multiple light HID grow ? have you ever corrrected issues concerning canopy management in multiple hid light grows ? have you ever corrected issues concerning ventilation in a mass grow op ? have you ever dealt with mold in a large scale grow op ? have you ever dealt with powdery mildew in a massive grow ? have you ever dealt with tempature control in a commercial grow op,these are all issues that are much harder to correct on a large scale vs a closet grow & issues that this grower has obviously dealt with & done a damm fine job to boot.
Commercial growing takes alot more than watching a video where some guy painted his whole body green & set up some little 400 watt grow,you'll learn this as your skill levels increase,and so you know the video's you claim are better grows have their own problems in those rooms,experienced growers will see these problems right off,im not going to bash those growers because they did a fine job & do not deserve anything other than my respect for helping people learn to grow but if you think those grows were pulled off without any serious problems you should watch them again.
You dont have to kiss somebody's ass to be a respectfull human being do you ?,you also dont have to kiss sombody's ass to treat growers threads with respect either,you would not like it one bit if experienced growers (or noobs) came to your thread & tore it apart would you ?,say what you will but you'd be pissed off & offended, as would we all, myself included.
Please be more respectfull of members who dont deserve their grow picked apart because it dosent look the same as what you saw in a video or read in a book,giving advice is one thing if it comes from personal experience but to bash other growers based on video or google experience is not cool & surely not how stoners are supposed to treat each other.
And your right,your not an old man like me,with age comes wisdom.