2c-e or 2c-t-2?

Mr.KushMan

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Haha, I played with psilacetin and 2c-i one time. But I think I had i fairly high tolerance when I tried it. Haven't noticed any problems, it was actually probably one of the most lucid and natural trip, visually, I have ever had.

Peace
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Haha, I played with psilacetin and 2c-i one time. But I think I had i fairly high tolerance when I tried it. Haven't noticed any problems, it was actually probably one of the most lucid and natural trip, visually, I have ever had.

Peace
Mixing a trip with a trip... what was the duration of the trip?

Why would you say it was the most lucid, natural trip you've experienced?
 

Mr.KushMan

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I barely remember right now, but I can completely feel everything that happened that night. Its hard to explain, but it definitely was a strong experience. In regard to the visuals it really mixed the digital feel that I get from 2c-i, like tetris blocks that push each other past the bottom, and the really mellow, but racey feel and the flowing visuals I get from 4-aco-dmt.

Peace
 

ndangerspecimen101

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I barely remember right now, but I can completely feel everything that happened that night. Its hard to explain, but it definitely was a strong experience. In regard to the visuals it really mixed the digital feel that I get from 2c-i, like tetris blocks that push each other past the bottom, and the really mellow, but racey feel and the flowing visuals I get from 4-aco-dmt.

Peace
2c-i is most certainly digital... thus, why I regard it as something beneficial but lacking thereof of clean quality. I want something strong yet subtle... in a way that is not obtrusive and lets me focus more on the trip then the actual body high.

2c-d and 2c-c could grant me that offer ;)
 

Dysprositos

Member
POSITIVE EFFECTS


  • sense of well-being (enhanced lucidity, sense of inner peace)
  • increase in energy (stimulation)
  • increase in associative and creative thinking
  • increased awareness and appreciation of music
  • increased awareness of senses
  • increased tactile sensations
  • visual patterning, closed and open eye visuals
  • insight into personal issues
  • profound life-changing spiritual experiences
Anybody been over to erowid to research this? http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ce/2ce.shtml
 

Syke1

Active Member
wow, i would love 2ci and 4 aco dmt mixed, the head fuck only a tryptamine( and a girl ) can give you, and some crazy ass visuals from the 2c-i....good combo, its on my list! thanks for that idea.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Psilacetin turns into Psilocin in your body..

Psilocybin turns in to Psilocin in your body..

Should not be a big difference
There are quantitative differences that I see in trip reports... but everyone has their own opinions!

Some say they could fall into slumber on 4-aco-dmt!
 

Syke1

Active Member
Psilacetin turns into Psilocin in your body..

Psilocybin turns in to Psilocin in your body..

Should not be a big difference
besides DMT, tryptamines are not that visuall to me, tho I am comparing that to my 60mg 2C-I trip, which needles to say was INCREDIBLE.

To me, 4 aco dmt is completly different than shrooms. Shroom trips come in waves, but 4 aco dmt is just constant tripping. I believe this might be contributed to the fact the flesh of the mushroom slows digestion, compared to a powder of 4 aco dmt.

There is a theory out there that some 4 aco dmt makes it to the brain before being metabolized, and thus alters the experience.

Idk, they def feel simlar but are def different drug.
 

Syke1

Active Member
Some say they could fall into slumber on 4-aco-dmt!

I know exactly what they mean, every time i used this substance i just chilled out on my couch and watched movies, definitly didnt want to do to much adventuring, like on acid or shrooms. Plus you yawn like crazy on it too..lol
 

ndangerspecimen101

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besides DMT, tryptamines are not that visuall to me, tho I am comparing that to my 60mg 2C-I trip, which needles to say was INCREDIBLE.

To me, 4 aco dmt is completly different than shrooms. Shroom trips come in waves, but 4 aco dmt is just constant tripping. I believe this might be contributed to the fact the flesh of the mushroom slows digestion, compared to a powder of 4 aco dmt.

There is a theory out there that some 4 aco dmt makes it to the brain before being metabolized, and thus alters the experience.

Idk, they def feel simlar but are def different drug.
Exactly!

Mushrooms do tend to come in waves... one moment the walls are breathing and morphing... and the next its like the wall never did such a mutation! 2c-i was constant... the visuals never waned. Until I started coming down, then the visuals calmed.
 

Syke1

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I'm glad someonelse feels this way. When I'm on shrooms sometimes I'll tell my friends that I'm not tripping so hard because a wave just ended, then they look at me like I'm crazy and say," but you ate more than me and I'm tripping my balls off!"
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
There is a theory out there that some 4 aco dmt makes it to the brain before being metabolized, and thus alters the experience.

Idk, they def feel simlar but are def different drug.
I understand that, I just can not see the effects being drastically different (maybe the way the effects come on, but not the actual effects themself).

When you take shrooms you are ingesting psilocybin (an ester of Psilocin), Psilacetin is also an ester of Psilocin.. they will have different aspects (as they are indeed two different substances), but there should be similarities a couple hours in (as it is all psilocin at that point).
 

ndangerspecimen101

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I understand that, I just can not see the effects being drastically different (maybe the way the effects come on, but not the actual effects themself).

When you take shrooms you are ingesting psilocybin (an ester of Psilocin), Psilacetin is also an ester of Psilocin.. they will have different aspects (as they are indeed two different substances), but there should be similarities a couple hours in (as it is all psilocin at that point).
Truth has spoken like a humming bird!

How the effects manifest themselves in the early stage of the trip can be somewhat different... but I would say after the initial peak (say 3 hrs into the trip) things become as identical to the ingestion of 4-aco-dmt or cubensis mushrooms!
 

CreepyStevie69

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Syke1

Active Member
I understand that, I just can not see the effects being drastically different (maybe the way the effects come on, but not the actual effects themself).

When you take shrooms you are ingesting psilocybin (an ester of Psilocin), Psilacetin is also an ester of Psilocin.. they will have different aspects (as they are indeed two different substances), but there should be similarities a couple hours in (as it is all psilocin at that point).
Well I may be splitting hairs when I say completley different drugs. But I am certain I could tell the difference in a blind "taste" test. Yes, the affects are similar but there is something just different about the two.

Have you ever tried this chem shepj?
 
I'm trying to determine a bit about the 2c family my self. I am quite familiar with 2c-i and the effects of it, but there are such a variety of additional chemicals in the family that I find it a bit confounding. I have looked up data, but I think I would be better served through an opinion of one who has done them. I am looking to investigate 2c-e more specifically, but I would not be hesitant to dabble with the others.

My primary question would be this: is 2c-e closer to X or LSD? I find 2c-i to be a mishmash of the two, but leaning more toward LSD.
 
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