25 days into flower!

This grow has been plagued with problems. between temps, humidity, an uncalled for super cropping and a friend taking care of my babies while I was on vacay and fucking up a feeding this is what I am left with. I started my journey with 4 but sadly had to chop 2 as they hermied. But, im pretty happy with the outcome so far other than one of my plants seeming to have N-tox. Although I've been flushing and eased way back on the nutes, it doesn't seem to be correcting itself. I started on blackstrap molasses yesterday so we'll see how that goes.

how they look so far?

estimates on yield?

budsmoker247 said:

This grow has been plagued with problems. between temps, humidity, an uncalled for super cropping and a friend taking care of my babies while I was on vacay and fucking up a feeding this is what I am left with. I started my journey with 4 but sadly had to chop 2 as they hermied. But, im pretty happy with the outcome so far other than one of my plants seeming to have N-tox. Although I've been flushing and eased way back on the nutes, it doesn't seem to be correcting itself. I started on blackstrap molasses yesterday so we'll see how that goes.

how they look so far?

estimates on yield?

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They look overwatered and overfed. Absolutely no more nitrogen. RO water only for a while. Light as high as you can raise it.

Definitely not over watered i don't say. I only water once the soil is completely dried out. I do agree on the N. The symptoms with the one plant started after i came back from vacation. Had a friend looking after them and i think he double dosed that one plant. The other is fine, no clawing, green looks good, yellowing on some of the older fans. But the one that im figuring has N tox, i flushed like crazy and halfed the bloom nutes but it still hasn't corrected itself for some odd reason. That one i think im just gonna cut out the biothrive bloom and just use the bio bud and the molasses and hope to see a change with all the clawing.

hotrodharley said:

They look overwatered and overfed. Absolutely no more nitrogen. RO water only for a while. Light as high as you can raise it.

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You're not going to undo that clawing. All the molasses is going to do is feed the microbes in the soil. It won't reverse any of the symptoms of overfeeding.

xtsho said:

You're not going to undo that clawing. All the molasses is going to do is feed the microbes in the soil. It won't reverse any of the symptoms of overfeeding.

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oh I know that, I was more so referring to the elimination of the biothrive bloom stopping the clawing since that's where all the N is in my nutes. The molasses is just to fatten them up. Im HOPING with the elimination of the biothrive bloom and just using the bio bud and molasses that the clawing will stop since it won't be getting virtually any more N other than what's left in the soil. The molasses will feed the cal, mag, iron for the micro nutrients and the bio bud is just potassium I believe and trace of phosphorus.

I'm no organic grower so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think adding molasses when they are overfed already and showing nitrogen toxicity is a bad idea.

The way I understand it is that by adding sugars to the media you will be increasing the populations of your microbes already present. If they have been hammered with N, (for what looks like a least a little bit) I would imagine your microbe population has been carrying out nitrification of the NH4 that is in your feed as a source of energy. Thus, (and this is where I really have no clue what im talking about!) I would imagine that your microbe population is skewed towards species that are capable of carrying out nitrification. So my theory is that if you increase the population of those microbes in the soil you will be encouraging them to break down what ever NH4 is left in the media which will make your problem worse.

Honestly though, for 25 days in those look really good especially considering all the claw I can see.

Have you ever considered buying some raw salts? I find that they are good in specific situations where you have over done one of the big nutrients and need to just drop said nutrient (like N) all together.

If I were in your shoes (again take with grain of salt, I dont know your whole set up) I would look into mono potassium phosphate ($16 for lb on amazon, should last forever), calcium gluconate (dyna gold makes a great product imo) and a big ol bag of epsom salt ($20 for 50lb bag) for situations like this in the future. I find myself using these ferts a lot in mid to late flower with great success and they allow for a lot of flexibility when things go wrong.

There is a program called hydro buddy that i find useful, and its free! When things like this happen to me I can make an impromptu custom feed using hydro buddy and the array of raw salts I have accumulated and I can usually still end up with a great harvest.

but honestly like I said I think your buds look great for this stage all things considered, so as long as you dont stress them out too much I think your gonna have a great harvest despite this set back!

good luck!

Luke