2000 w grow looking for advice, ideas and nutrient information.

Gc313 · Dec 14, 2017

I’m running 30 plants all close to 3 ft tall under 2000 w hps.

Strains are grape ape, gg #4, and green goblin.

8x10 room.

I guess I’m just looking for thoughts on how well this grow can turn out having 30 under 2000 w. As of right now I’m nine days in to flowering and wondering if I have enough light to sustain a decent yeild. I’m using fox farm trio and am thinking of adding bestie blooms m. So basically just looking for thoughts on strain quality and flowering techniques. How my grow looks in general, and if anyone has seen actual results with beastie blooms or if not what bloom booster i should use To boost my pk. Thank you in advance for all help and advice.

Kennny76 · Dec 15, 2017

That's a lot of plants under 2 lights.

Dr. Who · Dec 15, 2017

Beastie Blooms......RUN AWAY! Nasty high P&K! You'll burn your plants up with P....

The #4 is going to kill the others. Size and the need to suspend it is critical. This is a heavy feeder strain too.
Botanicare KIND line is good for her. Bloom at the charted value.

Never been a fan of FF trio.....sorry.

Gc313 · Dec 15, 2017

Kennny76 said:
That's a lot of plants under 2 lights.

Yea that’s what I thought at first. Some of the outside plants are getting less light forsure but I seem to have some good bud sight development and all nice and even.. I just built another room I might take ten out and put them in there.

Gc313 · Dec 15, 2017

Dr. Who said:
Beastie Blooms......RUN AWAY! Nasty high P&K! You'll burn your plants up with P....

The #4 is going to kill the others. Size and the need to suspend it is critical. This is a heavy feeder strain too.
Botanicare KIND line is good for her. Bloom at the charted value.

Never been a fan of FF trio.....sorry.

Gc313 said:
Yea that’s what I thought at first. Some of the outside plants are getting less light forsure but I seem to have some good bud sight development and all nice and even.. I just built another room I might take ten out and put them in there.

Dr. Who said:
Beastie Blooms......RUN AWAY! Nasty high P&K! You'll burn your plants up with P....

The #4 is going to kill the others. Size and the need to suspend it is critical. This is a heavy feeder strain too.
Botanicare KIND line is good for her. Bloom at the charted value.

Never been a fan of FF trio.....sorry.

actually the goblin is overshadowing the rest.. I want a big fan of the ff trio I like it for veg the plants were very healthy. As for flowering I’m not a fan of the Npk for the tiger bloom thats why I was looking for a boost .. I’m gonna try the beastie bloom at about a quarter of the recommendation. Throw in some molasses and I think I’ll be ok.. are you speaking in personal experience with beastie blooms?

Lordhooha · Dec 15, 2017

Gc313 said:
Yea that’s what I thought at first. Some of the outside plants are getting less light forsure but I seem to have some good bud sight development and all nice and even.. I just built another room I might take ten out and put them in there.

You can tell there’s too many plants to the lights you have the one above def stretched a good bit.

Dr. Who · Dec 16, 2017

Gc313 said:
actually the goblin is overshadowing the rest.. I want a big fan of the ff trio I like it for veg the plants were very healthy. As for flowering I’m not a fan of the Npk for the tiger bloom thats why I was looking for a boost .. I’m gonna try the beastie bloom at about a quarter of the recommendation. Throw in some molasses and I think I’ll be ok.. are you speaking in personal experience with beastie blooms?

It's basically sol-po-mag....... Um, been growing for decades.

Tiger bloom 2-8-4 I see too low an N, too high a P, and not quite enough K.......Adding any beastie is kinda dumb really.... You can make it work but why?

So then, ratio wise, I would like to see the P 25% lower, the K 50% higher and dbl the N..... The 8 of P will cause early yellowing. The lower K smaller buds.

Find some way to dbl the N but, watch the plant. It might want a tick less and, lowering the N a bit at week 6, plus stop the extra K at the same time. The P? leave it be. For the K,,, Buy some Potassium Sulfate 50 or 53 %. Now take 227 grams of that and add it to RO water. Now add 1.5 tsp dark brown sugar.

Mix well! 5-10 ml per gallon of your feed mix. This is a 6% k2SO4 solution. Increases bud size and Trich's/Terp's......
This will take care of your K. Again, stop using this at 6 weeks!

Boosting, isn't needed! It's just not. That's something that's been sold to newer novice and newbie growers by the nutrient makers...... It's BS..... You can do better with less! Most of them actually take away from potentials, not get you closer...

Here, NONE of these were ever "boosted". All but one are grown in home built organic, water only soil.......Can you pick out the synthetic run plant?

Learning to simply balance the NPK to the strain. Will give better end results then "booster's."
Advanced growers will raise the N for the stretch and provide a P&K proper to the time also. They might then slightly bump the P at weeks 4-6. Lower K and N some at 6 weeks and tickle the P up a tad..

All that and 7 of those 8 plants above.....Got nothing but water their whole life..... You don't even have to play with nutrient amounts in bloom to grow top shelf!

Less is more!

AnimalMother1974 · Jan 7, 2018

Dr. Who said:
It's basically sol-po-mag....... Um, been growing for decades.

Tiger bloom 2-8-4 I see too low an N, too high a P, and not quite enough K.......Adding any beastie is kinda dumb really.... You can make it work but why?

So then, ratio wise, I would like to see the P 25% lower, the K 50% higher and dbl the N..... The 8 of P will cause early yellowing. The lower K smaller buds.

Find some way to dbl the N but, watch the plant. It might want a tick less and, lowering the N a bit at week 6, plus stop the extra K at the same time. The P? leave it be. For the K,,, Buy some Potassium Sulfate 50 or 53 %. Now take 227 grams of that and add it to RO water. Now add 1.5 tsp dark brown sugar.

Mix well! 5-10 ml per gallon of your feed mix. This is a 6% k2SO4 solution. Increases bud size and Trich's/Terp's......
This will take care of your K. Again, stop using this at 6 weeks!

Boosting, isn't needed! It's just not. That's something that's been sold to newer novice and newbie growers by the nutrient makers...... It's BS..... You can do better with less! Most of them actually take away from potentials, not get you closer...

Here, NONE of these were ever "boosted". All but one are grown in home built organic, water only soil.......Can you pick out the synthetic run plant?
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Learning to simply balance the NPK to the strain. Will give better end results then "booster's."
Advanced growers will raise the N for the stretch and provide a P&K proper to the time also. They might then slightly bump the P at weeks 4-6. Lower K and N some at 6 weeks and tickle the P up a tad..

All that and 7 of those 8 plants above.....Got nothing but water their whole life..... You don't even have to play with nutrient amounts in bloom to grow top shelf!

Less is more!

Does the potassium sulfate alter the ph up or down?

Dr. Who · Jan 8, 2018

AnimalMother1974 said:
Does the potassium sulfate alter the ph up or down?

If anything, down. I get more pH action because I use RO and don't add Ca/Mg as a buffer. I amend the soil for that instead....

I basically gave you the formula to make "Terpinator/Resinator". For the K sulfate thing.....Don't increase my amount's I gave you to feed with.
You might try adding it a cpl of weeks before the flip. Might as well see what diference that makes - for YOU> Some like to do that, I simply start it when they enter the bloom room.

youraveragehorticulturist · Jan 8, 2018

Good News: the area under your lights is crammed full with plants.

Bad News: your plants are bunched together awful tight.

So you won't get the best Average weight per Plant. Each plant can't do it's personal best, there isn't enough space/light. But each of your lights can do its best. Every bit of your light is being used. You'll get great Average weight per light.

You kind of have a Sea of Green sorta thing going.

If you have extra lights and extra space, it may not hurt to move a couple out. If you've got enough plants to spare to keep both areas pretty full, go for it.

I would be pretty careful dumping some Booster I wasn't familiar with all over flowering plants. You've come a long way, now just 6-7 weeks to go. Don't start doing crazy experiments now! Maybe mix up your proposed super nutes, and just put them on 2-3 plants and see what happens first.

Gquebed · Jan 8, 2018

30 plants 3' tall under 2000 Watts?

Wtf!!??

That's a lot of work for nothing. I mean you will yield about the same with 8 or 10 plants.... so why do all that transplanting and watering for nothing?

jimihendrix1 · Jan 8, 2018

I wouldn't use any more than 9 plants in 7 gallon fabric pots per 1000W Hortilux HPS, and 4 x 4. 6 vs 9 may be better, and 10 gallon pots.
If I was pheno hunting, I would use more plants, and smaller pots.

youraveragehorticulturist · Jan 9, 2018

Gquebed said:
30 plants 3' tall under 2000 Watts?

Wtf!!??

That's a lot of work for nothing. I mean you will yield about the same with 8 or 10 plants.... so why do all that transplanting and watering for nothing?

Tough, but fair.

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