1st Grow, Transitioning Soon, Have a Question about Transitioning the Nutes

I've been going by the FloraNova (on the right) NOT Flora Series.
The small ones (raspberry cough, nyc pd) are getting the "mild growth" nutes with 1 1/2 -2 tsp diamond nectar and 1/4 teaspoon superthrive. Will also be adding some citrus and original berry sweet to half each.
Now, I would assume the the "transition" schedule is if I was giving them "aggresive growth" first. Can someone that may know tell me how they would mix that up for them?
The big girls are my wonder womans, Frickin week 10 just started for them. I need to start flowering. I just wanted the smaller ones to catch up a little bit.
The Wonder Womans will be getting exactly what it says for "transition" (right?)
Cant wait till next time when everything is on the same damn schedule

And can anyone tell me about how long i should have them in each of these stages??
Thanks DDDUUUDDDEEESSSS!!!!!

Hey Bud, I got your PM. Ive never used this line before, but I would probably look at it like this:

Seedling/Clone = Weeks 1-2
Mild Growth = Week 3
Growth = Weeks 4-5
Agressive Growth = Weeks 6-7
Transition = Week 8
Bloom = Week 9-11
Agressive Bloom = Weeks 12-13
Ripen = Weeks 14-15

Regards,

Honkeycorn!

Honkeycorn said:

Hey Bud, I got your PM. Ive never used this line before, but I would probably look at it like this:

Seedling/Clone = Weeks 1-2
Mild Growth = Week 3
Growth = Weeks 4-5
Agressive Growth = Weeks 6-7
Transition = Week 8
Bloom = Week 9-11
Agressive Bloom = Weeks 12-13
Ripen = Weeks 14-15

Regards,

Honkeycorn!

Click to expand...

Ya I'll go with that the next time around. Since I'm going to have to flower soon (the wonder womans are getting HUGE) i'm wondering what trans nutes to give the ones that are getting 1/2 tsp = 2.5ml grow right now.

I'm thinking since I was about to up the nutes for them, I'll do like 1.5 grow, 1.5 bloom, 1 floralicious, and 1 koolbloom??????? (all ml) or 2,2,1,1 ???? anyones thoughts will help me SLEEP AT NIGHT

Well, I looked at your new pics today and would say that ur ready to hit the 12/12 switch, do that and go full strength on the transistion schedule ( 2.5- 2.5-1-1.5 )

Also, if a hydro store is nearby grab some advanced nutriants "Bud Ignitor" this helps put your plants into flowering/budding faster. I use it then Big Bud, then Overdrive to maxamize results. My first time using this line but I can tell you so far the Bud Ignitor is doing wonders for bud formation.

That might help ya get some Zzzz`s LoL

Honkeycorn said:

Well, I looked at your new pics today and would say that ur ready to hit the 12/12 switch, do that and go full strength on the transistion schedule ( 2.5- 2.5-1-1.5 )

Also, if a hydro store is nearby grab some advanced nutriants "Bud Ignitor" this helps put your plants into flowering/budding faster. I use it then Big Bud, then Overdrive to maxamize results. My first time using this line but I can tell you so far the Bud Ignitor is doing wonders for bud formation.

That might help ya get some Zzzz`s LoL

Click to expand...

Ya I kind of had an idea of what to get but wasn't completely sure. I did grab the botanicare "Sweet" in original berry and citrus. Is that the same as those other things or what should I add to those "sweets" that i have?

And just so I'm clear The big ol wonder womans I was going to give the full transaction nutes as they are now on the aggressive growth nutes (so, full strength)

Your saying to put those Raspberry Cough's and the NYC PD (the lil ones) on the same full strength transition nutes??

And i dont think I'll sleep nice till i see some results BUT you answering my questions helps

Well, The "sweet" is looks ok, I use GH`s "Floral Nectar" for my sweet. They`re just basically molassis, cane sugar and malt extract with a lil` Magnesium and potassium. Suppossed to improve flavor and aroma too

These sweets are not the same as the Bud Ignitor. Bud Ignitor has phosphates, potassium and Kelp (seaweed). Sweets is sugar and potassium.

So the problem with running two different nute schedules is that when you flip the lights to 12/12 they should all be on the transistion schedule cause they are going into flowering mode and need the extra P-K.

Looking at this pic:
View attachment 1567991

I would say give the Lil` ones transistion nutes @ half strength. Give The Wonder Womens full strength transistion nutes. Then on to Bloom the week after.

Honkeycorn said:

Well, The "sweet" is looks ok, I use GH`s "Floral Nectar" for my sweet. They`re just basically molassis, cane sugar and malt extract with a lil` Magnesium and potassium. Suppossed to improve flavor and aroma too

These sweets are not the same as the Bud Ignitor. Bud Ignitor has phosphates, potassium and Kelp (seaweed). Sweets is sugar and potassium.

So the problem with running two different nute schedules is that when you flip the lights to 12/12 they should all be on the transistion schedule cause they are going into flowering mode and need the extra P-K.

Looking at this pic:
View attachment 1567991

I would say give the Lil` ones transistion nutes @ half strength. Give The Wonder Womens full strength transistion nutes. Then on to Bloom the week after.

Click to expand...

OK perfect that is what I was thinking. Ya, I did mean they would all be getting trans nutes, I just thought that they shouldn't get FULL STRENGTH trans like the big'ns So half strength is what I was thinking as well thanks man!!

So I should scoop up som Bud ignitor, Big Bud, and Overdrive then yes?? Have you used Bud Candy?? Where would that fit in the equation? Would that take the place of any of these other ones?? And then all of these are all going into my nutrient mix only right? lots of questions

Yes you are full of them, But I had many before too.

I cant answer them all and am not even that experienced myself but Im willing to help anyone on here with my opinions and reccomendations, especially when your not getting advise from any of the Master Guru`s on here.

Like I said B4 this is the first time using these additives, But I can already see a difference with the Bud Ignitor so its your call.

The "Advanced Nutriant Bud Candy" is the equivilent to your "Botanicare Sweet" or my "General Hydroponics Floral Nector" or if you want to get more basic they are all just sugar and molasiss. LoL.

Yes, these additives are added with a baseline nutriant schedule, HOWEVER..... now I have a questions for you....

Are you using the FLORALICIOUS Grow, FLORALICIOUS Bloom , Kool Bloom Liquid and Kool Bloom Powder with your FloralNova Nutes? or just the Nova?

Floralicious contains vitamins, phytohormones, humic acids, polysaccharides, fructans, beta-glucans, L-amino acids, and polyflavonoids. So it could be mixed with the Advanced Nutriants additives line, but the Kool Bloom looks basically like the Advanced Nutriants "Big Bud" so wouldnt want to use both. Over drive would also be good with for the last two weeks.

Regards!

I think I'm just using Nova... on the pic up there its the one on the right. So right now in my nute mix i use floraNova grow, floralicious plus, diamond nectar, splash superthrive, and the sweet.
Trans, I will use what it says for trans on all them including the diamond nectar, sweet, ( no superthrive )... then anything else?? any of those ones you were saying? (or just for bloom?)

Then bloom will get floraNova Bloom, floralicious plus, liquid koolbloom, sweet, diamond necter, (no superthrive) then whatever you think i should get... probly the bud ignitor, and that overdrive since you say the kool bloom should be the equivalent of the Big Bud.

Sounds good, if you are going to use the liquid Koolbloom you also need the dry Koolbloom powder for the ripening stage. Or if you do order the AN 3 pack you could just use the big bud. They are kinda formulated to work better together and AN states up to 30% better results using them together.

You can order the 3-pack for cheap here: http://progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=hf1 $118 for a 1L of all 3. Better than $89 for just the Ignitor.

Honkeycorn said:

Sounds good, if you are going to use the liquid Koolbloom you also need the dry Koolbloom powder for the ripening stage. Or if you do order the AN 3 pack you could just use the big bud. They are kinda formulated to work better together and AN states up to 30% better results using them together.

You can order the 3-pack for cheap here: http://progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=hf1 $118 for a 1L of all 3. Better than $89 for just the Ignitor.

Click to expand...

You must be Canadian lol. you gave me the Canadian price "eh" lol im just playin I'm in the states so its 124 for me lol I'll probly grab that unless you know of a botanicare version of those??

That way I could probly get it from my hydro store, and I already am using botanicare stuff... Otherwise I'll be grabbing those for sure.

Honkeycorn said:

Sounds good, if you are going to use the liquid Koolbloom you also need the dry Koolbloom powder for the ripening stage. Or if you do order the AN 3 pack you could just use the big bud. They are kinda formulated to work better together and AN states up to 30% better results using them together.

You can order the 3-pack for cheap here: http://progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=hf1 $118 for a 1L of all 3. Better than $89 for just the Ignitor.

Click to expand...

LOL so I just read this again. I thought, at first, you meant use ALL of that stuff together (unless that is what you meant ) Now I'm looking again, are you saying I should just need the Koolbloom powder with what I already have? Or do the bud ignitor, big bud and overdrive go WITH all the stuff I'm using already?

K, Give me a list of all your nutes you currently have.

Honkeycorn said:

K, Give me a list of all your nutes you currently have.

Click to expand...

FloraNova Grow, and Bloom. Floralicious Plus, Sweet, Liquid Koolbloom, Diamond Necter, Superthrive, Cal-Mag Plus, Hygrozime

1 tsp = 5 ml
Right now in the water jugs I use .25 tsp superthrive (stopping that now though, heard it wasnt' good for flowering) 1 - 1.5 tsp cal-mag plus. Then like every 3-4 waterings I throw in like 1 - 1.5 tsp of that hygrozime ( supposed to help clean the medium, like any decomposing matter ) This is all to 1 Gallon

My feeding right now, WW's get full strength which is 1.5 tsp FloraNova Grow, .25 tsp floralicous plus, 1.5 tsp diamond necter, I think 2 tsp Sweet original berry.

OG Kush get .75 tsp Grow, .25 tsp floralicious plus, 1 tsp diamond necter. And they just got transplanted last Tues so they havent received any Sweet yet. (just bought that stuff late last week)

"lil ones" Raspberry Cough, and the 1 NYC PD just got .5 tsp Grow, .25 tsp Floralicous Plus, 1 tsp diamond necter, 1.5 - 2 tsp Sweet (NYC and 2 RC's got original berry, 3 RC's got Citrus)

ALL of these will be on transition nutes next batch. I just transplanted the WW's to 5 gal on sunday so I still need to water for the second time tonight then I figure one more time with water in another 2 - 3 days THEN 2-3 days after that I start transition for them, so probly next monday or tuesday. Then 2-3 days later once its time for the next Water, I'll water them and then start my 24 hr dark period then 12/12. I'm thinking the 24 hr dark period will fall on wed-fri

Only thing is, the OG K, and RC, and NYC are all ready for trans nutes in like 2 days. I was going to just go ahead and start them, so basically they will have had trans nutes for a week before 12/12 instead of the WW's who will get them about 3 days before. I think thats fine right?

Typed all this while at work, this is all memory I'm about 99% sure its all correct

ok, drop the kool bloom, and get the 3pk from advanced. That should be good.

Honkeycorn said:

ok, drop the kool bloom, and get the 3pk from advanced. That should be good.

Click to expand...

I think this time around, since I already have it and i keep blowing all this money, I'll probly use the kool bloom. You say tho to get some kool bloom powder?
I will and do really wanna try out that 3pk from advanced but i've just been burning through cash I dont have Need to see some return you know?
I was also gonna get some CNS 17 Ripe from botanicare for the ripen stage.

Ladies are getting big man!!! I CANNOT WAIT TO FLOWER

Yes, if using kool bloom, you need to use the liquid for the first half of flowering, then the dry kind for the second half of flowering.

I thought about reccomending the Ripe but I read up on it and realize its not a good idea. First its only reccomended to be used with the whole CNS17 nute system, not any Flora series. Also, its not just a final stage ripener, it has many of the same things your other nutes are providing. It would be doubling up on a lot of things.

I dont believe I could find a suitable final stage ripener form General Hydroponics or Botanicare.

Honkeycorn said:

Yes, if using kool bloom, you need to use the liquid for the first half of flowering, then the dry kind for the second half of flowering.

I thought about reccomending the Ripe but I read up on it and realize its not a good idea. First its only reccomended to be used with the whole CNS17 nute system, not any Flora series. Also, its not just a final stage ripener, it has many of the same things your other nutes are providing. It would be doubling up on a lot of things.

I dont believe I could find a suitable final stage ripener form General Hydroponics or Botanicare.

Click to expand...

So you thinking overdrive?

budtoker0987 said:

So you thinking overdrive?

Click to expand...

Ya, cant guarentee anything since If told u im only on the igniotr and havnt tried the rest yet... but giver a try!

Honkeycorn said:

Ya, cant guarentee anything since If told u im only on the igniotr and havnt tried the rest yet... but giver a try!

Click to expand...

U da man!! thanks once again brotha!!