1st Grow - Bubbleponic Cabinet Grow 250w + CFL

LEDZEP

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So here is the proof...and a little more, everything is going great :mrgreen: I do get a little paranoid from time to time going to jail would suck :cry: I read some busted threads and hope I don't end up there I have prepared and taken the necessary precautions but paranoia takes over some times lol

Anyways I have been using the Lucas add back method and it is so easy to do, they have been drinking about a gallon per day and I add nutes about every other day or so to bring the ppm back up. It would be nice to use this the whole way without a res change, so I don't have to haul water back and forth, we'll see how it goes my last res change was on the 10th.

Ph is stabel and moves between 5.7 and 6.1. I am running out of verticle space, I veged these babies until they were just over 8 in. and now the tallest one is up to 26". 5 ladies in a 6 pod bubbleponic setup is pushing it a little but I was expecting only 2-3 I can't complain though the more the merry, I say.

So enjoy the pics...If I don't return my parinoia took over and or I went to jail :mrgreen:

Peace out!
 

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LEDZEP

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Looking good LZ. Way to go with the ladies.
Thanks bro!

doin a damn fine job keep up the good work. have they grown any or have they stayed the same the past couple days?
They seem to grow everyday....I am almost out of verticle space about 5-6 inches left, hopefully they will just bud out from here...

I just did a res change, I pulled my lovely ladies to rotate the lid for some better light distribution and I thought the water should look better, so I changed it. We'll see how they grow after that, I did some trimming on the lower bud sites and smaller branches and tied some of the bigger babies back so the others can get some light.

Oh yah...I just banged my wife in the ass for the first time...awesome!

Peace out
 

dtp5150

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can you tie or bend the stems down? even to loop around themselves or something....or you could take clones from the tips
 

LEDZEP

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can you tie or bend the stems down? even to loop around themselves or something....or you could take clones from the tips
I wish I had more room to do that, I think I am going to get som plexy glass to attach to the bottom of the bat wing to keep th tops off the bulb. I can move them to the side but I am out of space fron to back. No place to clone the tops, I hope they stop getting taller, I wasn't expecting them to get to tall after vegging to 8"... here are som small buds after about 25 days flowering.
 

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jjburnout

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I wish I had more room to do that, I think I am going to get som plexy glass to attach to the bottom of the bat wing to keep th tops off the bulb. I can move them to the side but I am out of space fron to back. No place to clone the tops, I hope they stop getting taller, I wasn't expecting them to get to tall after vegging to 8"... here are som small buds after about 25 days flowering.

Very nice dude....Awsome looking flowers and nice green leaves....gonna be a sweet to see how they turn out.
Peace,
JJB.
 

LEDZEP

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Whats up everyone, just got back from a bad ass camping trip in a bad ass canyon somewhere...
My ladies are really taking off, and that is the problem.
Well I placed a sheet of plexi glass at the base of the bat wing reflector and that has kept them from burning up or wilting from the heat. I am out of space between the light and the tops of the plants. I probably have less than a week left before some of the taller shoots hit the plexi glass and run out of room completely.
I am not sure why they grew so tall, now I have to think of something fast. They are in the garage so I don't want anyone to see what I'm up to when I open the garage door. So leaving them out in the garage exposed is not an option and leaving them in the cabinet is not going to be an option...any ideas are welcome!

Anyways.. here are some pics taken on the 25th, they are a little taller since then and closer to the light.
 

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Dropastone

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What's up LZ. I've been wondering where you've been. I'm glad to hear you had a good time on your camping trip. That must suck running out of space like that. Is there anyway you could bend them or tie them down some?
 

LEDZEP

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Ok so I had to make a move due to verticle hight restrictions. I ditched the cabinet and made a tarp enclosure. All is good and now my girls have more room, next time I'll start the 12/12 sooner or just use the new setup, we'll see how it goes, I figure I got about a month left, we'll see...
Enjoy :weed:
 

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Dropastone

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I'm glad to hear ya worked it out. :idea: That's looking like a new permanent grow room to me.:-P Your buds look like they're coming along nicely tool:weed:

Check ya later, peace. :clap:
 

LEDZEP

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I'm glad to hear ya worked it out. :idea: That's looking like a new permanent grow room to me.:-P Your buds look like they're coming along nicely tool:weed:

Check ya later, peace. :clap:
Thanks man, we'll have to see how this ends up...then it might be my new favorite hobby....

mmmmm...........mmmmmmmmmm
:hump: lookin real good man glad you found a solution to the height
peace out
Yah it was a pain in the ass and I didn't want to have to do it, but thats the way it goes, now they have all the room they need!
 

LEDZEP

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What's up everyone...It has been smooth sailing besides the habitat change:o Other than that all is well and I have not done a res change for 31 days, I think....

Im at day 42 into flowering and I figure there is about 2 weeks until I hit 8 weeks then they will be ready or not?? The bag says 8-10 weeks for the white widow and I am not sure for the rest, so we will see how they do, I think I,ll have to get a scope to start looking at the trics. Any ideas on where to get a good cheap one please feel free to let me know, Thanks!
So at the most I am hoping I will be done within a month.
Enjoy....:leaf:
 

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Dropastone

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What's up everyone...It has been smooth sailing besides the habitat change:o Other than that all is well and I have not done a res change for 31 days, I think....

Im at day 42 into flowering and I figure there is about 2 weeks until I hit 8 weeks then they will be ready or not?? The bag says 8-10 weeks for the white widow and I am not sure for the rest, so we will see how they do, I think I,ll have to get a scope to start looking at the trics. Any ideas on where to get a good cheap one please feel free to let me know, Thanks!
So at the most I am hoping I will be done within a month.
Enjoy....:leaf:
Dang LD, They're looking sweet dude. How much weight you think your gonna get?

I just bought a 30x jewelers magnifying glass on eBay for like 1.80 with shipping included and it's coming all the way from Hong Kong japan man. They got tons of em on ebay. It's probably a piece of crap though but for 1.80 I thought why not.

Hey I'm doing a full update in my journal tomorrow. I'm down to just one female but I got my clone/veg room finally going. I also moved my chiller right in the flower room. I think it works better without so much hose. It only gets like 82 deg* in there at the most. The model we have will operate in up to 95*

Keep up the good work.

Peace my friend.
 

josh420stillblowed

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ooooooooooooohhhhhh weeeeeeeeeeeeee lookin real good man I hope my next grow turn out even close to yours man so far so good it bein your first grow and all +++rep. as for the scope try radioshack from what I read its pretty cheap less than 20
 

LEDZEP

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Dang LD, They're looking sweet dude. How much weight you think your gonna get?

I just bought a 30x jewelers magnifying glass on eBay for like 1.80 with shipping included and it's coming all the way from Hong Kong japan man. They got tons of em on ebay. It's probably a piece of crap though but for 1.80 I thought why not.

Hey I'm doing a full update in my journal tomorrow. I'm down to just one female but I got my clone/veg room finally going. I also moved my chiller right in the flower room. I think it works better without so much hose. It only gets like 82 deg* in there at the most. The model we have will operate in up to 95*

Keep up the good work.

Peace my friend.
I have no idear....thanks for the words, much appreciated, I'll have to surf eBay then sounds like a good idea...
The chiller seems to drop the res temp 10 degrees below the ambient temp, so I think you go thte right idea. I'll keep a close eye on your grow,
Thanks!

ooooooooooooohhhhhh weeeeeeeeeeeeee lookin real good man I hope my next grow turn out even close to yours man so far so good it bein your first grow and all +++rep. as for the scope try radioshack from what I read its pretty cheap less than 20
What up j420 thanks bro! I got a radio shack around the corneer, I'll take a look.
 

LEDZEP

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So I've been reading some threads on how to harvest...drying and curing. I am thinking of the best and non-odorous way to dry. I thnk I'll have to bring the harvested plants into the house to dry due to the higher garage temps this time of year. I have seen the box method and I am thinking about doing that with some zona or some type of odor control?? Will this smell too strong during the drying?? After I use the box to dry I am going to use mason jars to cure for about a month or longer. My main concern is the drying process, anyone have any good ideas on odor control while drying....please post.
Thanks!

Here part of the thread I read....

Manicuring, Drying, And Curing marijuana



Right after all the plants have been harvested, it is time to manicure them. Manicuring is simply cutting off the leaves that were growing from the buds. Cut off all the leaves surrounding the bud, so that just the bud remains.

Work over a glass table or some kind of smooth flat surface. This will make it easy to collect all the material that has been cut away from the buds. It is lower in THC than the buds, but rather than throw it away, you can use it to make
hash oil.

When manicuring the buds, use a pair of scissors with small blades (to reach hard to get leaves) that is comfortable on your hands. If you have a small crop, you can handle the plants with you bare hands. With a large crop, wear powder free
latex gloves.

The latex gloves will collect trichome resin in a similar manner to the way live
marijuana plants are rubbed to make hashish. The latex gloves have to be powder free or the powder will get mixed into the resin.

Do not touch anything other than the plants once you have put the gloves on. If you have to do something, remove the gloves you are wearing and put them in a plastic bag, prior to doing whatever it is that has to be done.

When finished, put on a pair of new gloves. Material on the first pair can be collected later. When you are finished manicuring all the plants, remove the gloves and place them in a plastic bag (to catch resin that drops off).

Put the plastic bag with the gloves in a freezer for 2-3 hours. The trichome resin can easily be peeled from the frozen latex gloves and consumed the same way you would use hashish.

If absolutely necessary, you can wait to manicure the buds. However, the job will take more time if you wait. Manicuring right after the plants are harvested will also speed the drying process.

Instead smoking
marijuana directly after it is harvested and manicured, it is best to dry and cure it. Some new growers might be in such a rush to try the marijuana that they don't want to dry the crop, or they might be tempted to put buds in a microwave oven to dry them out.


Drying marijuana After Harvest

You probably don't want to smoke
marijuana that is harsh and bad tasting. If you do not take time to dry the bud, you will not get the best possible smell and taste your crop is capable of producing.

Proper drying and curing will also ensure maximum potency of the
marijuana you have grown. marijuana is not potent just after harvest. Some of the THC is in a non-psychoactive acidic form. Drying marijuana the right way will convert the non-psychoactive acidic compounds into psychoactive THC.

The area where the drying is done should be dark. Light and high temperatures (higher than about 80 degrees) will cause THC to break down into less desirable chemicals, this will lower the potency of the finished product.

A good way to dry the crop is to
hang the buds upside-down by the stem, from some string or wire. The drying marijuana must have some circulation blowing over it at all times. A gentle breeze that circulates over all the plants is necessary.

A fan or two will circulate air within the drying room. Fans will aid in drying the plants evenly, and reducing the chances of mold. If mold starts and is allowed to grow, it might ruin all of your crop. Mold looks like white fuzz and has an odor that is unpleasant.

You will have to keep the temperature and humidity within a certain range for optimal results. Conditions should remain constantly somewhere within the following ranges, temperature should be between 65-75 degrees F, relative humidity should be between 45%-55%.

At temperatures lower than 65 degrees, drying time will be lengthened. At temperatures higher than 75 degrees, the heat will cause the outer portion of the bud to dry quicker than the inner part, and the taste will suffer.

At humidity levels lower than 45%, the
marijuana will dry too fast and the taste will suffer. At humidity levels higher than 55%, the marijuana will take a long time to dry, and it will be prone to mold.

Keep a hygrometer and a thermometer in the drying area, close to the plants. A hygrometer will allow you to keep an eye on the relative humidity level in the room and a thermometer will display the temperature. Some
hygrometers
have built in thermometers so you can measure the temperature and humidity together.

Depending on the time of year and your location, a heater or an air conditioner may be necessary to adjust the temperature. To control humidity, a
dehumidifier can lower humidity and a humidifier can be used to raise humidity. There are warm mist humidifiers and cool mist humidifiers.

A warm mist humidifier will raise the temperature while a cool mist humidifier will not affect the temperature. There are also humidifiers that allow you to switch between warm or cool mist. If you are going to purchase a humidifier for this purpose, take your climate into consideration and buy an appropriate humidifier.

Warm mist models will actually heat the water and release warm humidity. Cool mist water isn't cooled, it just means that water is not heated. In most cases a cool mist will work best. To be safe you can get a humidifier that lets you switch between warm and cool mist.


Curing marijuana

It will take at least a week or two to dry the crop with temperatures between 65-75 degrees F and relative humidity between 45%-55%. You will know when the
marijuana is dry if the stems snap or break (rather than fold) when they are bent. Try smoking a small bud (1/2 gram or less) in a joint to be sure it is dry enough.

At this time, small buds will be dry enough to smoke. But larger buds should be cured (slow dried) to ensure that the
marijuana is as potent and tasty as possible. If necessary, you can set aside buds that are less than 1/2 gram for smoking, while larger buds cure.

The cure lasts a week or two. The aim of what you are doing is evenly finishing the slow dry process, so that mold will not grow when the buds are stored long term. Also, by the end of the cure, any remaining inactive THC will be converted to active THC (that increases potency).

To cure the crop, you will need one or more containers made out of glass or plastic. Some people say plastic can impart a taste to the
marijuana. Personally, plastic containers that some types of roll your own tobacco are sold in, have no negative effect on the taste.

Containers that have a rubber seal work best, but any type of container with a tight fitting lid will do. One quart
canning jars do a very good job if you are curing a few pounds or less. They have a rubber seal and hold 2 or more ounces of marijuana per one quart jar.

When curing quantities in excess of a few pounds, large (over 40 quarts) plastic
storage boxes
are recommended. They are not air tight, but will do the job when smaller air tight containers are not practical.

Gently place your
marijuana in the containers (cut buds to size if the are too big to fit in the container) and put the top on. Store the containers in a dark area where the temperature is between 50-65 degrees and the humidity is between 40%-60%.

You will have to open the containers for a few minutes to allow moisture to escape by fanning with your hand. If any moisture builds up on the inside of the cap on your container, wipe it off. Do this preferably 2-6 times daily, at regular 4-12 hour intervals.

You should also re-arrange the buds by giving them a quarter-turn once a day. This will ensure that different parts of the buds are exposed to the air in the container. Keep up this routine for 7-10 days. When properly dried,
marijuana will burn evenly when smoked in a joint (if stems are removed).

The taste will be as good as it can be, and the THC will have reached a point where it is ready to be ingested or stored. You can keep any
marijuana that will be consumed within a few months (1 year maximum) in the same containers used for curing, without having to keep opening them to release moisture.

If the
marijuana is to be stored for more than a few months, you can use a vacuum sealer (designed for storing food) to seal the marijuana in an airtight environment. If stored in a dark area that is between 40-55 degrees F, the marijuana in vacuum sealed plastic will remain potent for up to 5 years.

Dry
marijuana can be stored in a frost-free freezer, but some of the THC on the outer part of the buds may be damaged when frozen. A refrigerator is in the right temperature range but they tend to be humid (unless you can control the humidity).

If stored in an area of high humidity for months or years, even vacuum sealed
marijuana can eventually become as humid as the surrounding air. This will necessitate drying it again before smoking. But, unless mold develops, humidity itself will not degrade the THC or make the marijuana any less potent.

Light will degrade some of the THC, so dark containers can be used for storage. If you place the
marijuana in a see through container, it will have to be located in a dark area that is not exposed to light or high temperatures.

Always make sure to properly dry your
marijuana prior to storage, if you grow your own or if the stuff you have is very moist. And remember that to preserve marijuana potency at a maximum level, keep any exposure to air, heat, and light at a minimum.
 
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