12/12 or 14/10 flowering ????

growthspurt

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I read that somewhere before, @chruchhaze I was interested in it but wanted to do more research on the idea before anything else. Thank you for mentioning it, ill look into it sooner.
 

iHearAll

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you can start @ 12/12 and reduce by 3 minutes every two weeks. you'll be mimicking season change this way. it works. you'll end with 10/14 or 9/15 there abouts. pretty cool and saves money.

also have you heard of 12/1 lighting for veg? works great too. this method may blow your mind if you havent heard of it. but trust it me works. sorry if you have heard of it. ANYWAY, you set your timer as follows;;;;;; 12hrs on, 5.5hrs off, 1 hr on, 5.5 hours off

itll save you tons on electric and keeps your plants in veg. look at it as a cloud passing by everyday or being planted near a tree. the plants are awake for 12 hours rest some, and see the sun is still out. they calculate the total time and see that it is "summer" still so they dont try and flower.

i do both of these both
 

iHearAll

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pretty insignificant to me. but do you, im on board with more light power more plant matter believe me you ha. i just dont exactly care and when i see a 200$ power bill i cringe.
 

Flowki

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Shame most timers are so fking cumbersome and fickle to change, overly complicating what should be a easy task. Worse of all are those shitty cheap ones that force you to cycle right through to get to a lower hour.... my god, save me the subliminal life messages of only moving forward.. <back key thnx.

I started a rant so I'll finish. The winner of most fking annoying are those cheap shit thermostats. I mean wtf.. do they do it on purpose?... making you go through the most ridiculous encrypted game of finger twister just to unlock the temp change screen. A simple press of the temp key followed by using the up and down key is too easy for bioconvictor man. He, if you don't know is a prolific criminal who breaks into tents and fucks with your temp control just for shits and giggles. Glad the guys over at cheapshit.com got that covered.


Btw. If you have placed an order to cheapshit.com take the manual and iron it onto a leather hardback. Put it in a water tight box and bury it in your garden, 4 foot should do, build a shed on it. One day you'll need to change the thermo and unlike me, who lost the manual.. you won't need to smash it into pieces prior to your girlfriend pointing out you could have just googled the model number. Yes, it was a win for feminism that day. Or yeah, google it.
 
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PerroVerde

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Have you tried using a 5-15minute pulse of 730nm light (far-red) at lights out? A lot of people here use a pulse of far-red immediately after the lights go out and flower 13.5/10.5 to increase yield without slowing down flowering..

When the lights go out, it takes about 2 hours for the majority of photochrome to convert from Pfr to Pr form. A 730nm pulse after lights out converts Pfr to Pr almost instantly, increasing effective night length by about 2 hours.
I have issues the 730nm pulse as lights go out with success and now have a 660nm pulse as a wake up. I run the 660nm before lights on for 10-15 minutes and it's truly amazing to watch the plants wake up to it. I use the 660 during the flower cycle as well because I have seen all the clones I have form bud sites faster with using it but it is only used for start up after week 4 do to it increasing foxtailing... :)
 

Shugglet

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Keep in mind strains start flowering outdoors when there is between 9-10 hours of darkness. 12/12 is simply safe. 13on/11off or 14on/10off seems like it would be an happy medium for the plant.

Of the research Ive been able to do on scholarly articles, it would seem that more light = more growth and more thc.

You can believe random forum people with no hard data to back up their claims or you can pursue the data youre looking for. Up to you.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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I watched a video from THC Labs out of Canada, and one of the growers recommended increasing the hours of light up to 16 hours for the last 2 weeks of flowering. Along with a diet of water only for the last 14 days.
Has anyone tried this or known any one who's done it b4 :confused::confused::confused:
ive saw the same question posted on another site, an some people seem to do it just wondering if anyone else uses this technique and what kind of results they get the guy from THC labs he report's he gets much better yeilds, as his plants see more light :roll:
:eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke::eyesmoke:
I find trying to mimic my suns sunrise to sunset from may 1 to Oct 28. patterns does help me grow outdoor strains that don't like indoors. I also find that this method works great for normal hybrids as well.
 

VTMi'kmaq

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Keep in mind strains start flowering outdoors when there is between 9-10 hours of darkness. 12/12 is simply safe. 13on/11off or 14on/10off seems like it would be an happy medium for the plant.

Of the research Ive been able to do on scholarly articles, it would seem that more light = more growth and more thc.

You can believe random forum people with no hard data to back up their claims or you can pursue the data youre looking for. Up to you.
Fair enough but what really helps learning sink in deep is when I can achieve these things without looking for someone else's "hard data"
 

Shugglet

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Fair enough but what really helps learning sink in deep is when I can achieve these things without looking for someone else's "hard data"
Are you implying you like to carry out the experiments yourself? Or that you would rather just take peoples word for it?

If its the latter, peoples opinions always differ on subjects like this, so without any hard data, how do you choose who to believe?
 

VTMi'kmaq

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I choose to do as I was taught. trial an error in the fields. Then again there examples everyday in practices that separate the rock stars from the groupies in the gardening world
 

Flowki

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Fair enough but what really helps learning sink in deep is when I can achieve these things without looking for someone else's "hard data"
The more you can learn from others the less time you spend on things you don't need to spend time on, sooner finding something that does need attention, progression. With ought that glamorous free chain of copy cat learning we would not be far past mud huts.
 

iHearAll

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yea but we'd all end up being textbook growers if there werent people like him finding new niches and turning complexity into simplicity. innovation doesnt happen by regurgitating someone elses results. the best has yet to come.
 

Gquebed

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Nature doesnt increase light for the last 2 weeks of flowering, light decreases gradually... im now on a 10.5/13.5 light schedule.
As for flushing... apart from the fact that im using organics, plants absorb nutrients during their whole life cycle, and starving them of food for the last week or 2 only serves as a stress for the plant... why shouldnt it eat for its last 2 weeks? Dont you eat during your plants final days? lol

Ive run ak47 6 times in the exact same environment. The first four runs at 12/12 got me pretty much the same weight. The last two times i flowered at 10/14 and both those yielded 1/4 pound more on the usual 8 plants. AND the last run i expected to be much less because i had some root probs in early flower. But... low and behold i still got that extra 1/4 pound. Go figure...

Some times less is more.

Ive changed strains for this run and i plan to do 10/14. If i can yield the same or more as the last time i ran this strain i plan to stay on 10/14.
 
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