110w T5 100w cfl later both plus 600w hps

Please help with lighting

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justugh

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oh to dump your air outside

look for a window ac vent ............http://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Whynter-Portable-Conditioner-ARC-WK-14SP/dp/B0048ELAAS

something like that with 2 holes one for the tent one for the room itself ..........this will make your plants happier u are dumping used hot air outside causing a natural draft into the room bring in cool fresh air with a higher Co2 lvl (indoor Co2 lvls are naturally higher then outside)

that will increase your yields ..................if smell is a issues say something other wise just put that in the window and drawl the shades down to that point u are set looks like a portable ac exhaust (it being hot is not big thing because AC air is hot )

after u bank a large set of pounds or euros ..........i can help u hide your set up from prying eyes but it does cost a good amount of money for the IR proofing to hide u 100ft long by 4 feet wide cost u about 200 us dollars something like 160 pounds last i checked 1.31 exchange rate


and by the way u know not to put that money in the bank correct once u do it becomes taxable income and someday u might have to answer where it came from ..........keep a few hundernt or maybe 2 thousand in cash the rest convert it to silver bars ...............when u need cash sell the bars for a profit then u have clean money (if they ask were the investment money came from say several years of saving change to start it )

silver will not go down in price will go up and it is a very easily hidden asset u can bury it ...u can put in walls ......u can paint it and leave in plain sight (never hide cash in the walls because of coke heads and others most all money has trace amounts of drugs on them to a lvl a dog can detect so they will find it ........silver on the other hand no smell and any beeping from a metal detector can be explained by pipes/wiring)
 

justugh

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i looked up your seeds ........confirm please

http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Royal_Creamatic/Royal_Queen_Seeds/

http://en.seedfinder.eu/strain-info/Royal_Bluematic/Royal_Queen_Seeds/

if this is right ...........u do not need anything larger then 12 liters to pull out the max ...........they are listing 100 grams and 70 grams

u can try using a 20 liter planter but from the listing they offer unless u turn it into a monster u can expect 3 oz per plant 4 maybe in the 20 liter planter


u must of been looking at the photo version info
 

Chrisalis

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No no nothin lyk 28ltrs, i have 5 bluematic and they are all getting transplanted into 10ltr pots that i alreday had around. All my creamatic got transplanted lastnyt, yet again into 10ltr pots. Got them inder 400w hps, 30"w dual spec cfl and T5until later 2day when i can go il and sort it all out properly. Was with my babies for abt 2 and 1/2 hr lstnyt and still never had time 2 finish, so finishing today. Needing 2 set cool tune up 2day and another cfl. Wen i transplanted lstnyt i gave them all a little feed of water with Rhizotonic in in hope of keeping stress down. :) my tent is 80/80/160, lst time my m8 used it he got 5 photo OG kush in it in the same pots.
 

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Chrisalis

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Sorry the above are my temporary arrangements until l8r 2day, For the creamatic and these little bluematics getting sorted and transplanted today aswell. Yes i can confirm both links you have sent are of the auto strains i am using.

Hopefully from my pics you can kind see the area that im working with.
 

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Chrisalis

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Just cn other post aswell, no worries there my bro visits me regularly and makes £60,000 a year. Already have gold chain and bracelet from previous b/days, so was jus gonna add to that collection i think. And defo a proper steath once i have the backin wld b very nice. :) u a gud 'un m8.
 

justugh

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your tent
i would only do 4 so u have free air movement ......i have that tent size here it only fits one of my large plants so 4 smaller ones should fit nicely and leave little room on the sides to let the air move around ......if u were a 120x120x160 then i would say 6 or 5 but your tent 4 is pushing it little each plant only get 0.75x0,75 feet for grow room

from what i read the plants get about 2 feet tall .........your hid will do about 18 inch penetration so those lower sites near the dirt u can just remove them because they are not going to do anything for u but suck food from the ones with light

the amount u are making is not just for yourself ...........can i offer u a idea i used (when i started out) i knew i would off load some of this stuff so i went around to the ppl i trust and told them what i was doing and asked them for 200 bucks in return everything i grow they get offered to first at one set price per oz ........the price never changes for them and they get first refusal if they do not want it i offer to the other ppl i know at 20/50 bucks more a oz

they were more then happy to give me the 200 investment for gear


if i did miracle grow ............i am telling u now the weed will have a chemical taste ............the only way to get rid of it is to turn it into something other then flower smoking (bho/ iso /ice hash/ cookie butter/ tincture/ vape juice ) .............if u sell it in flower u will need to take a hit on the price per oz to move it
 

Chrisalis

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In uk u can get £220 at a push an Oz ($350ish i believe). now i have someone very close who takes off me for £160, ($260ish, again i think) im happy with, already taking a hit and he's happy with that.

As he grows in coco, rockwool and clay pebbles, but his income is far greater than mine 2 spend cash on supplys as he a 2g man!

Also just a quick question, would a decent cure in jars not help with the taste at all?

I have 3 El Nino seeds at the mo aswell, now this next part is all your fault, Im now thinkin 1 of them in one of my spare 20ltr pots under 400hps and try lst the shit out of it wiv a scrog net in my tent!
 

justugh

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In uk u can get £220 at a push an Oz ($350ish i believe). now i have someone very close who takes off me for £160, ($260ish, again i think) im happy with, already taking a hit and he's happy with that.

As he grows in coco, rockwool and clay pebbles, but his income is far greater than mine 2 spend cash on supplys as he a 2g man!

Also just a quick question, would a decent cure in jars not help with the taste at all?

I have 3 El Nino seeds at the mo as well, now this next part is all your fault, Im now thinking 1 of them in one of my spare 20ltr pots under 400hps and try lst the shit out of it wiv a scrog net in my tent!

your best hope to make them taste good is to flush the soil ..........u want to make all those beads and other crap in there pop and release the stuff so u can flush it away ...........if i had to make a guess i go 5 times the amount of soil u are using ...........so 2.5 gallons of soil 12.5 gallons of water


the trouble will be the plant will still have stuff to suck up when it is time to die so flushing like we do will not work for u unless those beads and extra crap has not been popped and flushed out

and a correctly done cure takes 6 weeks even i do not sit on my stuff that long..........once i got the water weight out of the jars i sell them if the ppl want o cure it that is up to them if i sat on my stuff that long i would end having pounds in the house ..........once u get going u can set up on a rotation say 3 plants wait 2 weeks then 3 more plants and keep it going every 2 weeks u will pull in something i am currently at hp every 2 weeks i started anouther plant for someone so i will be doing 3/4 to lb every other week now


auto flowers are the shit ..............u can have them all on a 20/4 timing and keep them all in the same room because they like both red and blue (hps and MH ) light tho the whole of the life of the plant
 

Chrisalis

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Hey Justugh, manage 2 whittle down 2 10, gave me 2g man 8 t'other day. Got mine under 400w hps, 2x 300 dual spec cfl's and T5 the now. On understandin im gettin more per Oz than normal on this and next harvest, so suppose gotta b happy. Got 600w cool tube there but aint managed 2 set it up yet, only runnin 29's at the min anyway so thinkin that b fine heat wise 4 few more days til i exchange 1 300 cfl 4 600w cool tube. Pic is of day 15 from germ. Gonna go down the Black Gold route next time looks decent organic swag so it does. Noce tip bro.
 

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justugh

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Hey Justugh, manage 2 whittle down 2 10, gave me 2g man 8 t'other day. Got mine under 400w hps, 2x 300 dual spec cfl's and T5 the now. On understandin im gettin more per Oz than normal on this and next harvest, so suppose gotta b happy. Got 600w cool tube there but aint managed 2 set it up yet, only runnin 29's at the min anyway so thinkin that b fine heat wise 4 few more days til i exchange 1 300 cfl 4 600w cool tube. Pic is of day 15 from germ. Gonna go down the Black Gold route next time looks decent organic swag so it does. Noce tip bro.

your temp will be ok just make sure u have that fan blowing between the plants and the light so the temps do not build up to much (take your hand put the palm of it at the top of the plant so the back of hand is facing light if the back of your hand is uncomfortable after 30 secs move the light up higher)

good on knowing the numbers down sorry to tell u to do it but what u had and tools to work with it was not a smart choice .......this will be a much better yield then what it would have been with all of them

np on the soil .......it is pretty good stuff but u will need more power during the flowering to get the dense frosty (the fox farms dirty dozen kit ) it has a whole set in there can take care of the plant and any troubles u run into ........... the powders open seame / beastie bloom / cha ching are great and powerful stuff

the other stuff i like the beeme the micro brew .......tiger bloom and the big bud are great too .........as for the grow i really do not use it and the kangroot sledge hammer and comeback stuff i never had a need to use it but i read good stuff about it
 

cassinfo

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your temp will be ok just make sure u have that fan blowing between the plants and the light so the temps do not build up to much (take your hand put the palm of it at the top of the plant so the back of hand is facing light if the back of your hand is uncomfortable after 30 secs move the light up higher)

good on knowing the numbers down sorry to tell u to do it but what u had and tools to work with it was not a smart choice .......this will be a much better yield then what it would have been with all of them

np on the soil .......it is pretty good stuff but u will need more power during the flowering to get the dense frosty (the fox farms dirty dozen kit ) it has a whole set in there can take care of the plant and any troubles u run into ........... the powders open seame / beastie bloom / cha ching are great and powerful stuff

the other stuff i like the beeme the micro brew .......tiger bloom and the big bud are great too .........as for the grow i really do not use it and the kangroot sledge hammer and comeback stuff i never had a need to use it but i read good stuff about it
Dude you must hate miracle gro huh? I started with FFOF in the past because a guy like you told me the same shit. Don't use miracle grow bro!! It tastes like shit and you won't grow shit. Well, I ran out of FF soil and bought some miracle gro potting soil. My plants grew great, taste great, fat ass dense nugs just as the FF soil. MG soil is hot but so is the FF soil. You can have the best medium, equipment, nutrients line up, but if you don't have the knowledge.... Your S.O.L. I'm a firm believer there's nothing wrong with MG soil as long as you know what your doing. These girls are in MG potting soil and are doing grrreeaaatttt!!IMG_20140928_013825507.jpg
 

justugh

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Dude you must hate miracle gro huh? I started with FFOF in the past because a guy like you told me the same shit. Don't use miracle grow bro!! It tastes like shit and you won't grow shit. Well, I ran out of FF soil and bought some miracle gro potting soil. My plants grew great, taste great, fat ass dense nugs just as the FF soil. MG soil is hot but so is the FF soil. You can have the best medium, equipment, nutrients line up, but if you don't have the knowledge.... Your S.O.L. I'm a firm believer there's nothing wrong with MG soil as long as you know what your doing. These girls are in MG potting soil and are doing grrreeaaatttt!!View attachment 3263119
it is all about the taste .......... it can look pretty as all hell but if u burn the smoke and taste like crap no one will want it unless u drop the price ........i am looking to go legal open a shop work in a shop

if the stuff looks good but taste like shit they will buy it one time and then go to someone else ..........that is not a model that will keep u happy and let u retire in 5 years
 

cassinfo

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I agree, but grow buds with MG soil does NOT make it takes bad. YOU must not flush I assume? I myself and others who grew in MG soil loves how it smoke and taste. You my friend must be drowning your plant in nutrients. I'm just saying not arguing. I've never heard anyone said bro your buds taste like shit!! LOL.
 

justugh

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I agree, but grow buds with MG soil does NOT make it takes bad. YOU must not flush I assume? I myself and others who grew in MG soil loves how it smoke and taste. You my friend must be drowning your plant in nutrients. I'm just saying not arguing. I've never heard anyone said bro your buds taste like shit!! LOL.
i flush ..............hell i am one of the only ppl i know that has a water bucket with a air stone in it so the water is high oxygenated so my plants do not droop when i water them ( less shock and stress to the plant...........and it can take alot more water daily like that )

the trouble is MG has beads in the soil with food in those beads ..........the roots will pop them open or the watering will make them pop and that gets into the roots plants use it ...............the only way to remove them is to massively flush MG soil not just 3 times but 5 or 6 times ............doing that u are removing alot more then just those beads .........at that point u have just crushed the soil from decent to just dirt from what u did so what is the point of it

ffof black gold or ideal420soil ...........those 3 soil types will do u hell of alot better then MG after flushed and if u do not flush it trying to flush it like u normally do at the end does not work because the roots ...............MG is sheer crap for weed u will never see any pro grower using that stuff in any shops or contests

the new stuff on the block right now is mad hatter soils and products the numbers look decent but i have not been able to find a supplier homestead hydro site has been messed up for months now

the goal of all of us growers are the same to make a strain that is so sticky and stinky it is just dripping resins off the plant the strongest i know of is Og night train at 25.24 % thc 1.4 cbds i sawl someone bragging they got 30% from a lab test on one nug new strain they been working on
 
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